RE: [WSG] Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-02-02 Thread Stuart Foulstone
me is minimal. -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of David Dixon Sent: 26 January 2009 22:50 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Users who deliberately disable JavaScript Again, can you show

RE: [WSG] Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-01-30 Thread kieren
@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Users who deliberately disable JavaScript Again, can you show that the small decline in IE's market share has contributed to users blocking Javascript or using specific Firefox extensions? IE has had plugins such as the Web Accessibility Toolbar etc for some

Re: [WSG] Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-01-30 Thread James Milligan
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Users who deliberately disable JavaScript Again, can you show that the small decline in IE's market share has contributed to users blocking Javascript or using specific Firefox extensions? IE has had plugins such as the Web Accessibility Toolbar etc

Re: [WSG] Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-01-30 Thread matt andrews
2009/1/27 Patrick H. Lauke re...@splintered.co.uk: As good as it is to hear anecdotal evidence from expert users such as list members here, I'd say it's much more important to bring some actual live user stats to the table. Last time I checked JS stats (around 12 months ago) at the site I work

[WSG] Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-01-26 Thread Jessica Enders
Hi Pascal In the JavaScript/Accessibility/form validation discussion you mention the growing number of users who purposefully disable JavaScript. I'm always curious just how many people this is. Do you, or does anyone else, have any statistics on this? Is there a reason you describe it

Re: [WSG] Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-01-26 Thread James O'Neill
Our small county site has about 297k visitors last year and about 1.9% (5,700) had Javascript disabled according to SuperStats. On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 14:33, Jessica Enders jess...@formulate.com.auwrote: Hi Pascal In the JavaScript/Accessibility/form validation discussion you mention the

Re: [WSG] Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-01-26 Thread David Lane
Given the increased number of threats and the availability of slick script blocker extensions for Firefox like NoScript (http://noscript.net/) it's only going to get more common, particularly among security conscious people. I certainly use it, only enabling Javascript for a site I'm visiting when

Re: [WSG] Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-01-26 Thread Sven Dowideit
I have JS disabled, and only enable it for sites which I decide I need it working. Due to the way I work, I often have hundreds of browser tabs open and I can leave them open for weeks with JS off. I also find it educational to see which sites have non-functional forms because they have used JS

Re: [WSG] Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-01-26 Thread Anthony Ziebell
_javascript_ should be implemented only to supplement / layer existing functionality. Your site should operate just fine without it... There are always exceptions to this rule however you shouldn't let _javascript_ dictate how you code. Thanks, Anthony. Sven Dowideit wrote: I have JS

Re: [WSG] Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-01-26 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
David Lane wrote: Given the increased number of threats and the availability of slick script blocker extensions for Firefox like NoScript (http://noscript.net/) it's only going to get more common, particularly among security conscious people. I certainly use it, only enabling Javascript for a

Re: [WSG] Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-01-26 Thread David Lane
Hello Patrick, On Mon, 2009-01-26 at 21:55 +, Patrick H. Lauke wrote: David Lane wrote: Given the increased number of threats and the availability of slick script blocker extensions for Firefox like NoScript (http://noscript.net/) it's only going to get more common, particularly

Re: [WSG] Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-01-26 Thread David Dixon
Agreed, if people have real long term usage statistics that they can share to support the claim that Javascript use is in decline, and not focus on very one-sided arguments of personal use or everyone i know then I'd be interested to hear. Until that time, or my own analysis supports these

Re: [WSG] Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-01-26 Thread David Dixon
Again, can you show that the small decline in IE's market share has contributed to users blocking Javascript or using specific Firefox extensions? IE has had plugins such as the Web Accessibility Toolbar etc for some years now that allow disabling of Javascript very easily, so why would the