Re: [WSG] Will HTML be nicer to PHP than XHTML?

2005-07-04 Thread Chris Gandolfo
The language is only as sloppy as the person writing it. Back to the question, in my personal projects I have been running the Smarty PHP template engine with xhtml 1.0 strict formatted templates and content without any problems. At work we run a much more dynamic version of the engine with html

RE: [WSG] Will HTML be nicer to PHP than XHTML?

2005-07-03 Thread Paul Bennett
Subject: Re: [WSG] Will HTML be nicer to PHP than XHTML? Personally, I believe this is one of the strong argumens for XHTML. PHP is very sloppy, and when you combine that with another sloppy language, HTML, the mess is tremendos. For small projects and new people it's not much of an issue,

Re: [WSG] Will HTML be nicer to PHP than XHTML?

2005-07-01 Thread Alan Trick
Personally, I believe this is one of the strong argumens for XHTML. PHP is very sloppy, and when you combine that with another sloppy language, HTML, the mess is tremendos. For small projects and new people it's not much of an issue, but try to maintain a large codebase without it being incredibly

Re: [WSG] Will HTML be nicer to PHP than XHTML?

2005-06-28 Thread Roberto Gorjão
Dear List Members, I apologise for bringing up an OT theme. It was not intentional, simply thoughtless of me. I thank the list members who have answered with brilliant information and links that were truly enlightening about the subject. Obrigado! Roberto -- Peter

Re: [WSG] Will HTML be nicer to PHP than XHTML? [ADMIN]

2005-06-28 Thread Roberto Gorjão
Dear List Members, I apologise for bringing up an OT theme. It was not intentional, simply thoughtless of me. I thank the list members who have answered with brilliant information and links that were truly enlightening about the subject. Obrigado! Roberto -- Peter

[WSG] Will HTML be nicer to PHP than XHTML?

2005-06-27 Thread Roberto Gorjão
Olá a todos! I’ve read Ian Hickson and Stuart Langridge objections to the use of XHTML without serving it as application/xhtml+xml. I also read the article “WaSP Asks the W3C” (http://www.webstandards.org/learn/askw3c/sep2003.html) and I decided that I sure am not going to create two

Re: [WSG] Will HTML be nicer to PHP than XHTML?

2005-06-27 Thread Gary Menzel
My 2c worth. I can't see how any scripting language would be considered more or less XHTML friendly than any other scripting language. Once you move to a scripting language and not to just a plain text file with markup in it, you have to use the language to generate the markup. The markup is

RE: [WSG] Will HTML be nicer to PHP than XHTML?

2005-06-27 Thread Collin Davis
Roberto, PHP can go hand in hand with Content Negotiation! Check out this link: http://keystonewebsites.com/articles/mime_type.php Read through the article - it explains how it works very well. Since XHTML is merely a reformulation of HTML, you can use the HTTP_ACCEPT header to serve XHTML as

Re: [WSG] Will HTML be nicer to PHP than XHTML?

2005-06-27 Thread Chris Kennon
Hi This could prove immensely helpful: http://loadaveragezero.com/vnav/labs/PHP/ G/L Chris On Jun 27, 2005, at 2:31 PM, Roberto Gorj Olá a todos! I’ve read Ian Hickson and Stuart Langridge objections to the use of XHTML without serving it as application/xhtml+xml. I also read the

Re: [WSG] Will HTML be nicer to PHP than XHTML?

2005-06-27 Thread Mordechai Peller
Collin Davis wrote: PHP can go hand in hand with Content Negotiation! Check out this link: http://keystonewebsites.com/articles/mime_type.php Read through the article - it explains how it works very well. Since XHTML is merely a reformulation of HTML, you can use the HTTP_ACCEPT header to

RE: [WSG] Will HTML be nicer to PHP than XHTML?

2005-06-27 Thread Paul Bennett
ARGH! The logo's - the logo's!!! My EYES! -Original Message- Hi This could prove immensely helpful: http://loadaveragezero.com/vnav/labs/PHP/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

Re: [WSG] Will HTML be nicer to PHP than XHTML?

2005-06-27 Thread Your Name
Quite true - in the script I use, I have this for the W3C validator: if (stristr($_SERVER[HTTP_USER_AGENT],W3C_Validator)) { $mime = application/xhtml+xml; } As to why, my own personal reasons are three-fold: 1. The W3C is clear that XHTML 1.1 should not (different than must not, I'm aware)

Re: [WSG] Will HTML be nicer to PHP than XHTML?

2005-06-27 Thread Michael Cordover
On 6/28/05, Collin Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PHP can go hand in hand with Content Negotiation! As a PHP developer first and a web designer second (sorry, I just don't have design flare) let me say that PHP goes brilliantly for XHTML. If you use output buffering then you can indeed convert

Re: [WSG] Will HTML be nicer to PHP than XHTML? [ADMIN]

2005-06-27 Thread Peter Firminger
We're pushing the OT limits with this thread. I understand it's importance to some people but PHP is NOT a standard and we don't want to go too much further into it here. Many list members don't use PHP and this is just noise to them. I'm not closing the thread but please limit your posts on