Re: [WSG] a target=” blank” not part of x html

[Kane Tapping]

>What I'm getting from the discussion to this point: 
>web *site* - new window bad; 
>web *app* - new window sometimes necessary
>target="_blank" - deprecated* and probably bad in any circumstance

Thats my position. the only difference being that if possible webapps 
should try to pop divs inside their current browser window/tab.

Target="" does still have a use, but its only for framesets in the older 
specs, and unless your managing legacy code, most designers on this list 
should be way past making frame based web sites/apps.

Kind Regards,

Kane Tapping
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On Mar 28, 2008, at 10:09 AM, Hassan Schroeder wrote:

Perhaps if you've never seen or used one, it's hard
to conceptualize, but they exist.

Ouch...

However if the subject is still opening new windows vis a vis  the 
"target" attribute, it seems to me hard to conceptualize a web app that 
doesn't rely on both client- and server-side scripting.

And returning to the original question:

Why not.  I can't imagine it's better practice to replace it with 
javascript.

I'd think that in a web app it certainly is better practice to use 
javascript?

What I'm getting from the discussion to this point: 
web *site* - new window bad; 
web *app* - new window sometimes necessary
target="_blank" - deprecated* and probably bad in any circumstance

No doubt people will continue to hold different opinions as to how to deal 
with links to non-HTML documents. For myself I've decided the best course 
is to offer a direct link and leave it to the user to decide whether to 
open a new window/tab, and I think this is coming to be the majority and 
"standard" position. Those who hold a different view are free to do so, 
and act accordingly.

Andrew

*a little bee in my bonnet:
deprecated: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/deprecated
depreciated: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/depreciated






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Re: [WSG] a target=” blank” not part of x html

[Michael Horowitz]

Has the same problem. Target is not xhtml.

Are people arguing web standards prohibit opening a new page in a new 
browser or tab?


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Rob Kirton wrote:

Michael

I would recommend that you use target="_new" and then use XHTML 
transitional DTD


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On 27/03/2008, *Michael Horowitz* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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I just read how a target="_blank" is not part of xhtml

Why not.  I can't imagine its better practice to replace it with
javascript.

http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2004/01/02/targetblank-xhtml-10-strict-conversion/

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Re: [WSG] a target=” blank” not part of x html

[Rob Kirton]

Andrew

of course you are right there, however if the brief says so

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On 27/03/2008, Andrew Maben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I can't imagine its better practice to replace it with javascript.
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> No, "better practice" is to avoid foisting new windows on users
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> (IMHO - but I don't think I'm alone...)
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Re: [WSG] a target=” blank” not part of x html

[Rob Kirton]

Michael

I would recommend that you use target="_new" and then use XHTML transitional
DTD

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- Rob

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On 27/03/2008, Michael Horowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I just read how a target="_blank" is not part of xhtml
>
> Why not.  I can't imagine its better practice to replace it with
> javascript.
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> http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2004/01/02/targetblank-xhtml-10-strict-conversion/
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