[WSG] Absolute positioning in the flow of the document?

2007-08-02 Thread Paul Collins
Hi all, I've spent a while trying to figure this out and I'm not sure there is a solution. I've got two levels of navigation here; visually one sits on top of the other, but the second level will change according to what top level link you click: http://www.method.com.au/newWebsite/ So, my

RE: [WSG] Absolute positioning in the flow of the document?

2007-08-02 Thread Philip Kiff
Paul Collins wrote: I've spent a while trying to figure this out and I'm not sure there is a solution. I've got two levels of navigation here; visually one sits on top of the other, but the second level will change according to what top level link you click:

Re: [WSG] Absolute positioning in the flow of the document?

2007-08-02 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Paul Collins wrote: http://www.method.com.au/newWebsite/ ... The problem is that semantically this is not correct, the second level here is relating to the home link and therefore should be a sub-list contained in the LI of the home link. If you look at my example link, this is how the code

Re: [WSG] Absolute positioning in the flow of the document?

2007-08-02 Thread Paul Collins
Sorry, yes Phillip. I haven't done PC testing at all yet, I'm on Firefox on the Mac. Wanted to decide how to code this before I get onto testing. Should have mentioned that! Cheers On 02/08/07, Philip Kiff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Collins wrote: I've spent a while trying to figure this

Re: [WSG] Absolute positioning in the flow of the document?

2007-08-02 Thread Paul Collins
Thanks Gunlag I think you are right about semantics there. I don't have to have it as a Sub-nav I guess. I will see how much trouble I have getting this to work in IE; if it doesn't work I will definitely put it back to the way you have suggested. I'm not terrible happy about using absolute

Re: [WSG] Absolute Positioning-A Naive Question (Maybe)

2006-03-14 Thread Ian Anderson
Felix Miata wrote: The author here is the lead layout developer in the Mozilla project: http://dbaron.org/log/2005-12#e20051228a Well, I don't read anything in the author's cited reference for CSS floats - http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/visuren.html#floats - to imply that floats were intended

Re: [WSG] Absolute Positioning-A Naive Question (Maybe)

2006-03-14 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
... I don't think the Baron reference is sufficient evidence for the assertion that using floats for layout is an abuse of them. On the contrary, I have seen several references in the last few years that stated floats *were* the preferred layout method by the W3C CSS working group. ... I am

[WSG] absolute positioning, z-index, and IE6 - summary

2006-03-14 Thread Ted Drake
Hi All I've been struggling with a conflict between an absolutely positioned drop down list with z-index and the objects that follow it in the page. After doing a lot of testing and searching for information, I've been able to solve some of the issues. I've got a couple blog posts on

Re: [WSG] Absolute Positioning-A Naive Question (Maybe)

2006-03-13 Thread Felix Miata
On 06/03/13 21:35 Paula Petrik apparently typed: When I read the W3C specs (not the most riveting exercise on the planet), it seems that the developers emphasize absolute positioning. For example, they describe using floats to float small bits of text or images. It seems, however, that floats

Re: [WSG] Absolute Positioning-A Naive Question (Maybe)

2006-03-13 Thread Todd Baker
The main reason I dont use absolute positioning for all my layout is that most of the sites I build require footers at the base of the page content. With every page of differing content length the only way to achieve this is to float and then clear for the footer. Thats just me. There are wiser

Re: [WSG] Absolute Positioning-A Naive Question (Maybe)

2006-03-13 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Paula Petrik wrote: When I read the W3C specs (not the most riveting exercise on the planet), it seems that the developers emphasize absolute positioning. For example, they describe using floats to float small bits of text or images. It seems, however, that floats have become the order of the

Re: [WSG] Absolute Positioning-A Naive Question (Maybe)

2006-03-13 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Mar 14, 2006, at 11:35 AM, Paula Petrik wrote: When I read the W3C specs (not the most riveting exercise on the planet), it seems that the developers emphasize absolute positioning. For example, they describe using floats to float small bits of text or images. It seems, however, that

Re: [WSG] Absolute Positioning-A Naive Question (Maybe)

2006-03-13 Thread Richard Czeiger
) - Original Message - From: Paula Petrik [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 1:35 PM Subject: [WSG] Absolute Positioning-A Naive Question (Maybe) When I read the W3C specs (not the most riveting exercise on the planet), it seems

Re: [WSG] Absolute Positioning-A Naive Question (Maybe)

2006-03-13 Thread Paula Petrik
Felix Todd, Felix, nice to know that I'm in good company. Todd and Phillipe, I think that the footer business is the sticking point. But what is sacred about a footer? What information goes into a footer that could not go elsewhere? This has me puzzled. In the table days, the most

Re: [WSG] Absolute Positioning-A Naive Question (Maybe)

2006-03-13 Thread Al Sparber
Paula Petrik wrote: When I read the W3C specs (not the most riveting exercise on the planet), it seems that the developers emphasize absolute positioning. For example, they describe using floats to float small bits of text or images. It seems, however, that floats have become the order of the

[WSG] absolute positioning?

2005-12-07 Thread Greg Morphis
Hey, I'm trying to build a daily schedule view which will have schedules from 6am - 10pm. I'm not sure if this is the correct approach so I'm asking for help... I was thinking of using a table with 3 columns, 1 column for the name, 1 column for job title and 1 column for their daily schedule. I

Re: [WSG] absolute positioning?

2005-12-07 Thread Ben Wong
Hi Greg, Although it's an interesting thing you're trying to do. I think it's a bit hacky. While it's seem table-like it's actually a graph and I'd probably consider a few other options. 1. do the third column with images 2. do the entire graph as one big image or 3. use SVG If you still think

RE: [WSG] Absolute positioning objects and centering content.

2005-10-05 Thread Mike Foskett
Hi all, I've just used a little absolute positioning inside an div for the first time in years. Is it common practice to add position:relative to the body element to get relative objects to behave when resizing the browser? During this project I also found a solution to centre content that

[WSG] absolute positioning in IE

2005-08-28 Thread Anders Nawroth
Hello! I want to position an element at the top right corner of the document (not the viewport). In standards based browsers this is easy using position: absolute; top: 0; right: 0; But the problem is, on most of the pages where I use this the positioned element disappears in IE. I can't

Re: [WSG] absolute positioning in IE

2005-08-28 Thread Kenny Graham
Make sure the page validates. IE should render that fine unless it's in quirks mode. If it validates and still doesnt work, post a link and I'll have a look.

Re: [WSG] absolute positioning in IE

2005-08-28 Thread Anders Nawroth
Kenny Graham skrev: Make sure the page validates. IE should render that fine unless it's in quirks mode. If it validates and still doesnt work, post a link and I'll have a look. The pages render in CSS1Compat (standards) mode. A page with only standards CSS:

Re: [WSG] absolute positioning in IE

2005-08-28 Thread Ingo Chao
Anders Nawroth wrote: http://cms3.nawroth.com/testsidor/filer/testpage.html For disappearing a.p. boxes, see http://www.brunildo.org/test/IE_raf3.html Your testpage shows the problem listed as Example 1 The fix is to rearrange the html, or by inserting an empty box, see the subsequent

Re: [WSG] absolute positioning in IE

2005-08-28 Thread dwain alford
Anders Nawroth wrote: Kenny Graham skrev: Make sure the page validates. IE should render that fine unless it's in quirks mode. If it validates and still doesnt work, post a link and I'll have a look. The pages render in CSS1Compat (standards) mode. you have one error in your html. hth,

Re: [WSG] absolute positioning in IE

2005-08-28 Thread Anders Nawroth
Ingo Chao skrev: Anders Nawroth wrote: http://cms3.nawroth.com/testsidor/filer/testpage.html For disappearing a.p. boxes, see http://www.brunildo.org/test/IE_raf3.html Your testpage shows the problem listed as Example 1 The fix is to rearrange the html, or by inserting an empty box, see

Re: [WSG] absolute positioning, objects inputs

2005-06-09 Thread Alan Trick
The select issue is an IE bug. As far as I know, there's no workaround. With the flash, I believe you have to set a property on your embed tag (wMode='opaque', but don't quote me on that). I'm not very familiar with Flash. Alan Trick Jamie Mason wrote: http://www.engineerrecords.com/abspos.htm

[WSG] absolute positioning, objects inputs

2005-06-07 Thread Jamie Mason
Title: absolute positioning, objects inputs http://www.engineerrecords.com/abspos.htm This page is a quick example, it's got form inputs and a flash file with nothing done to them, then OVER THE TOP of that, is a blue absolutely positioned div. In IE - The select appears above the div In

[WSG] absolute positioning in IE

2005-03-29 Thread Mani Sheriar
Right now for the image in question you have: style=position: absolute; top:-5px; right:5px; In FF it appears as you would like it, but in IE it looks like it is a bit too close to the right edge, no? Try something like this: style=position: absolute; top:-5px; right:5px !important; right:10px;

[WSG] absolute positioning in IE

2005-03-17 Thread john
Hello, group. I'm having a heck of a time with a particular image that I have positioned on my site. Because it has to blend in with three different background colors, I have it anti-aliased accordingly. The problem is that in Firefox and IE (on XP) the image doesn't show up in exactly the

Re: [WSG] absolute positioning in IE

2005-03-17 Thread Bert Doorn
G'day that in Firefox and IE (on XP) the image doesn't show up in exactly the same place, so the blending background is off-set. Right now, it looks good in Firefox, but not IE. Is there something I can do to guarantee that image's position on the site, regardless of the browser? The guitar

Re: [WSG] absolute positioning in IE

2005-03-17 Thread john
Thanks for the tip. The use of tables is my client's request. He's too afraid to exclude those who won't be able to see it properly. I tried to convince him otherwise, but he was firm. The inline styles are just for my own tweaking purposes -- I'll put them in the external once I have it

Re: [WSG] absolute positioning

2005-02-26 Thread Dave O'Brien
Its part of the spec I believe. An element is absolutly positioned within it's containing element ( which I think has to be block level for obvious reasons ). A basic example is that a single absolutly positioned element ( say a div#example ) within the body tag is positioned to the body tag which

Re: [WSG] absolute positioning

2005-02-26 Thread Marwan Farha
Just give the element which you want to position the other element relative to a poistion of relative and then give the inner elemennt a position of absolute and specify toop,right etc... example: div#container {position:relative;} div#container img.example {position: absolute; top:0; right:0;}

[WSG] absolute positioning

2005-02-25 Thread john
Pardon my hasty question, but I'm off to bed and wanted to get this off my chest before doing so... When doing absolute positioning, can it be done so that it's based on a table or div rather than the window itself? You can see at http://www.drzeus.net/clients/stevierays/ that I have an image

Re: [WSG] absolute positioning

2005-02-25 Thread Johnno Shadbolt
If an element (your image) is positioned with absolute, inside another element (a div) that is positioned with relative (it is easy to make divs center-align), it should follow the absolute positioning, but still be in the div. ** The discussion

[WSG] absolute positioning and screen magnifiers

2004-09-15 Thread Herrod, Lisa
Just wondering if anyone knows much about the impact of absolute positioning on people who are using screen magnifiers. see you tonight... Lisa ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04

RE: [WSG] Absolute positioning vs floats

2004-08-26 Thread Anura . Samara
Thanks everyone for your thoughts on positioning vs float... except of course that opinion is divided! As usual, its a matter of finding the best fit for what I want to achieve. I think I might do a new version of the site using floats over the weekend, just to see if it makes a difference. My

[WSG] Absolute positioning vs floats

2004-08-25 Thread Anura . Samara
I noticed someone made the comment that the preferred floats to absolute positioning. I have just created a new design using absolute positioning. It 'seems' to work across IE, Mozilla, Opera and latest Netscape (I'm trying to forget about NS4.7). But what is the consensus amongst my esteemed

Re: [WSG] Absolute positioning vs floats

2004-08-25 Thread Justin French
Anura, I noticed someone made the comment that the preferred floats to absolute positioning. I have just created a new design using absolute positioning. It 'seems' to work across IE, Mozilla, Opera and latest Netscape (I'm trying to forget about NS4.7). But what is the consensus amongst my

Re: [WSG] Absolute positioning vs floats

2004-08-25 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
When done properly, with due care for which parent container it uses, absolute positioning yields a lot more robust results, imho. It would be dangerous to simply dismiss absolute positioning in favour of floats. You've just got to be careful in how you position things, to avoid potential

RE: [WSG] Absolute positioning vs floats

2004-08-25 Thread Mike Foskett
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.webSemantics.co.uk /marquee/blink -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 August 2004 07:38 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] Absolute positioning vs floats I noticed someone made the comment that the preferred

Re: [WSG] Absolute positioning vs floats

2004-08-25 Thread Kay Smoljak
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 09:49:52 +0100, Mike Foskett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally, I go with floats every time. Absolute positioning relies on the display size too much. I try to mix it up a bit - there's lots of browser bugs with floats (think Mac IE5). Absolute positioning is fantastic for

Re: [WSG] Absolute positioning vs floats

2004-08-25 Thread Nick Gleitzman
On Wednesday, Aug 25, 2004, at 18:49 Australia/Sydney, Mike Foskett wrote: Have you considered the documents appearance on a 160px wide PDA? How about a Braille reader? Surely you wouldn't deliver the layout CSS to either of these devices... semantically structured text and (for the PDA)

RE: [WSG] Absolute positioning vs floats

2004-08-25 Thread Mike Foskett
for elastic designs. mike 2k:)2 marqueeblink [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.webSemantics.co.uk /marquee/blink -Original Message- From: Nick Gleitzman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 August 2004 13:17 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Absolute positioning vs floats

RE: [WSG] Absolute positioning vs floats

2004-08-25 Thread Mike Foskett
://www.webSemantics.co.uk /marquee/blink -Original Message- From: Kay Smoljak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 August 2004 11:03 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Absolute positioning vs floats On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 09:49:52 +0100, Mike Foskett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally, I go with floats