[WSG] height problem in firefox

2004-06-09 Thread Razvan Pop
Hello.
http://eutest.cpea.ro/contul_meu.php
Please take a look at that and maybe you can find out why the white 
background is not rendering OK in Firefox.
The CSS: http://eutest.cpea.ro/stiluri/layout.css
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Re: [WSG] height problem in firefox

2004-06-09 Thread Susanne Jaeger
Razvan Pop schrieb, am 09.06.04 14:36:
http://eutest.cpea.ro/contul_meu.php
Please take a look at that and maybe you can find out why the white 
background is not rendering OK in Firefox.
The CSS: http://eutest.cpea.ro/stiluri/layout.css
#main doesn't have any non-floating and hence height relevant content. 
You might try adding some clearing element at the end of #container, 
after #main or just add float: left to the definition of #container.
I tried this via edit-styles bookmarklet in Mozilla and it works, I 
think there shouldn't be any problems with other browsers, but check.

Have a look at Eric Meyer's Containing Floats article to understand 
what's happening. 
http://www.complexspiral.com/publications/containing-floats/

HTH
Susanne
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Re: [WSG] height problem in firefox

2004-06-09 Thread Razvan Pop
Thank you Susane.
Any idea how i could make the left blue column fit the height of the page?
Kindest Regards,
  Razvan Pop
Susanne Jaeger wrote:
Razvan Pop schrieb, am 09.06.04 14:36:
http://eutest.cpea.ro/contul_meu.php
Please take a look at that and maybe you can find out why the white 
background is not rendering OK in Firefox.
The CSS: http://eutest.cpea.ro/stiluri/layout.css

#main doesn't have any non-floating and hence height relevant content. 
You might try adding some clearing element at the end of #container, 
after #main or just add float: left to the definition of #container.
I tried this via edit-styles bookmarklet in Mozilla and it works, I 
think there shouldn't be any problems with other browsers, but check.

Have a look at Eric Meyer's Containing Floats article to understand 
what's happening. 
http://www.complexspiral.com/publications/containing-floats/

HTH
Susanne
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Re: [WSG] height problem in firefox

2004-06-09 Thread Gary Menzel

 Please take a look at that and maybe you can
find out why the white 
 background is not rendering OK in Firefox.


I couldn't see any other replies to
this (but mail delivery seems to have been an issue here lately).

I have just had a look in Firefox (0.8
version) and cannot see any difference between that and IE.


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RE: [WSG] height problem in firefox

2004-06-09 Thread Jeff Lowder - Accessibility 1st
If you read this tutorial at A List Apart, it'll show you how to achieve
what you want.

http://www.alistapart.com/articles/fauxcolumns/

Cheers
Jeff Lowder
Accessibility 1st
Website: www.accessibility1st.com.au
Blog: www.accessibility1st.com.au/journal/ 


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Subject: Re: [WSG] height problem in firefox

Thank you Susane.

Any idea how i could make the left blue column fit the height of the
page?

Kindest Regards,
   Razvan Pop

Susanne Jaeger wrote:

 Razvan Pop schrieb, am 09.06.04 14:36:

 http://eutest.cpea.ro/contul_meu.php

 Please take a look at that and maybe you can find out why the white 
 background is not rendering OK in Firefox.
 The CSS: http://eutest.cpea.ro/stiluri/layout.css


 #main doesn't have any non-floating and hence height relevant content.

 You might try adding some clearing element at the end of #container, 
 after #main or just add float: left to the definition of #container.
 I tried this via edit-styles bookmarklet in Mozilla and it works, I 
 think there shouldn't be any problems with other browsers, but check.

 Have a look at Eric Meyer's Containing Floats article to understand 
 what's happening. 
 http://www.complexspiral.com/publications/containing-floats/

 HTH
 Susanne
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Re: [WSG] height problem

2004-05-20 Thread Kim Kruse
Hi Jason,

It seems so obvious when you (and others) explain it. Thank you for that. (I
know there is a long way before I understand CSS completely, if ever, but
I'm learning everyday thanks to this list and other CSS resources)

Once again... thanks to you and to this list for all your help.

(Respect :o)
Kim


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 2:53 AM
Subject: RE: [WSG] height problem


  Kim Kruse wrote:
  I wrapped the logo and an URL in
  an h1 tag, placed it right under the body tag
  and now FF is messing up.
  http://www.pagemakers.dk/divtest/test.htm .

 Firefox has this displayed correctly
 Floats need to be 'cleared' to move the following content underneath

 What I would do (not necessarily the best way) is add the logo ID to the
 h1 instead and add a clearing class after the h1

 div
   h1 id=logo
 img src=http://www.pagemakers.dk/divtest/billeder/logo.gif;
 alt=mouseriders width=200 height=80/a href=index.htm
 mouseriders: Apache, Java, Tomcat, PHP, Programmering/a
   /h1
 br class=clear 
 /div

 And change the style '#logo h1 a' to 'h1#logo a'

 Regards
 Jason


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Re: [WSG] height problem

2004-05-20 Thread Rick Faaberg
On 5/20/04 2:30 AM Kim Kruse [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out:

 Once again... thanks to you and to this list for all your help.
 
 (Respect :o)
 Kim

I only joined here umm 2 days ago. I'm impressed with the group and attitude
here.

Way to go, whoever started this and also the participants.

I'm still lurking and learning. :-)

Rick

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RE: [WSG] height problem

2004-05-20 Thread Jamie Mason
Title: RE: [WSG] height problem





I joined yesterday and ditto :)


Jamie Mason: Design




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Sent: 20 May 2004 10:34
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On 5/20/04 2:30 AM Kim Kruse [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out:


 Once again... thanks to you and to this list for all your help.
 
 (Respect :o)
 Kim


I only joined here umm 2 days ago. I'm impressed with the group and attitude here.


Way to go, whoever started this and also the participants.


I'm still lurking and learning. :-)


Rick


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[WSG] height problem

2004-05-19 Thread Razvan Pop
Hello.
I am working on an e-commerce site. It is not tablesless. :)
I have some problems in Mozilla and Firefox.
Please go here: http://www.insoft.ro/imprimante/1
Scroll down and look at the column containing the left menu. There is 
some white space. Any ideas how i can fix it? So it reaches the bottom 
of the page?
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Web Developer  SEO http://razvan.cpea.ro
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Re: [WSG] height problem

2004-05-19 Thread Mark Stanton
Hi Razvan

I'd suggest the best option would be to make it a background image on
the body tag. Your body tag is going to be your top level containing
block so it will always stretch to the height of your content.
relative height: properties are always going to be relative to your
viewport or visible area.

Heights are always going to be troublesome - see my post at
http://www.mail-archive.com/wsg%40webstandardsgroup.org/msg04815.html
for a bit more information on this or the stack of height related
posts we've had on the list recently at
http://www.mail-archive.com/wsg%40webstandardsgroup.org/.


Cheers

Mark
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RE: [WSG] height problem

2004-05-19 Thread P.H.Lauke
 I'd suggest the best option would be to make it a background image on
 the body tag. Your body tag is going to be your top level containing
 block so it will always stretch to the height of your content.

Maybe being pedantic, but the top level container would be the HTML element,
and backgrounds that are meant to stretch to the entire window/viewport
should be placed as style rules to it. Otherwise, it can happen that, if the
content is too short, the background itself will only appear behind the
content, resulting in even more white space at the bottom.
(although I seem to recall that this problem only appears once you start
sending XHTML strict with a proper XML mime type)

Patrick

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Re: [WSG] height problem

2004-05-19 Thread Hugh Todd
Kim, you said,
Would it be possible to force the #navcontainer to stretch down to 
the
#footer without the pnbsp;/p ? If so how?
No, there's no way to do this reliably. You should forget trying to do 
it. This is what Mark Stanton was getting at. Remove the background 
from your #navcontainer and put it in the background of the element 
behind it.

Here's an article that explains what to do: 
http://alistapart.com/articles/fauxcolumns/

All the best! -Hugh Todd
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Re: [WSG] height problem

2004-05-19 Thread Kim Kruse
Hi Hugh,

Great article, thank you. The problem the problem is already solved though.
Jason Turnbull was so helpful that he showed me and the solutions and it
works great. Now I've new problem though... I wrapped the logo and an URL in
an h1 tag, placed it right under the body tag and now FF is messing up.
You're welcome to take a look http://www.pagemakers.dk/divtest/test.htm .
Probably much easier than me trying to explain.

I'm too tired to look anymore... tomorrow.

Thanks
Kim

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From: Hugh Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 12:31 AM
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 Kim, you said,

  Would it be possible to force the #navcontainer to stretch down to
  the
  #footer without the pnbsp;/p ? If so how?

 No, there's no way to do this reliably. You should forget trying to do
 it. This is what Mark Stanton was getting at. Remove the background
 from your #navcontainer and put it in the background of the element
 behind it.

 Here's an article that explains what to do:
 http://alistapart.com/articles/fauxcolumns/

 All the best! -Hugh Todd

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Re: [WSG] height problem

2004-05-19 Thread Mark Stanton
Thanks Patrick 

Yes you are right about html being the top level container, but I
guess I was thinking about visible area - I never realised that you
could style the html. Will try this out for sure.


Cheers

Mark
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Re: [WSG] height problem

2004-05-19 Thread Hugh Todd
Kim,
Jason's solution is an excellent one. I regretted my dogmatic statement 
(that you should not try) the moment I saw it. The background-image 
solution is better for a more complex background graphic for your 
column.

-Hugh
Great article, thank you. The problem the problem is already solved 
though.
Jason Turnbull was so helpful that he showed me and the solutions and 
it
works great.
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Re: [WSG] height problem

2004-05-19 Thread Mordechai Peller
Mark Stanton wrote:
Thanks Patrick 

Yes you are right about html being the top level container, but I
guess I was thinking about visible area - I never realised that you
could style the html. Will try this out for sure.
 

I recall reading somewhere that you can style the title element. You 
of course will need to start by changing the display property to 
something other than none.
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RE: [WSG] height problem

2004-05-19 Thread P.H.Lauke
 From: Mordechai Peller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 I recall reading somewhere that you can style the title element.
 
Interestingly enough, I was playing with that the other night...
http://www.splintered.co.uk/experiments/details.php?id=34
Works best in Firefox / Gecko based browsers at the moment...
 
Patrick

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