This email is to be read subject to the disclaimer below. > Sure a lot of work just for some trivia, It most certainly is. It's much easier to use a packet sniffer. A *good* packet sniffer that offers a breakdown of the raw packets can easily present the HTTP data and it can be really useful for debugging too. I use Ethereal ( http://www.ethereal.com/ ) which is open-source, cross-platform and generally nice. Viktor Radnai Web Developer Business Innovation Online Ernst & Young Australia http://www.eyware.com/ http://www.eyonline.com/ Direct: +612 9248 4361 Fax: +612 9248 4073 Mobile: +61408 662 546 "Adam Carmichael" To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: au> Subject: Re: [WSG] iTunes on Windows [Virus checkedAU] 23/10/2003 06:33 AM Please respond to wsg > I ask: What this HTML Render Engine? > > A soft of Apple using API from Windows (Like iRider, MyIE and Avantbrowser)? > > or... > > Apple launch a version of KHTML/Safari for Windows? Does it have an address bar? Here's an interesting hack: Change your local DNS resolver by opening c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts Change the hostname for URL that you think is being opened to 127.0.0.1 Start apache on localhost Write your own Javascript function / install php and run phpinfo() to return the user agent. Of course even that can be forged - but why bother? Sure a lot of work just for some trivia, but hey - use it for all sorts of things. Many of the anti-spam-popup-blockers that you pay for work this way when all you need is a list of domains like doubleclick.net to be placed into this file. (No spam / popup window will be able to get around this unless they access their parent site via IP address - this is because when windows resolves a hostname it first queries this file, then it goes externally). And seeing as we're all about webstandards (and this is more of a networking standard than a webstandard per se): the HOSTS file you see can be copied to a FreeBSD/UNIX system (BSD essentially wrote the first working TCP/IP stack) and the same trick should work. Microsoft did adopt one standard without altering it (to my knowledge) to work with their OS). To bring this back to your topic: iTunes will probably be on Safari as that is what has been pushed by Apple (are they still pushing it, or are they pushing Firebird now?). -- Adam Carmichael [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ ***************************************************** -------------------- NOTICE - This communication contains information which is confidential and the copyright of Ernst & Young or a third party. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication please delete and destroy all copies and telephone Ernst & Young on 1800 655 717 immediately. If you are the intended recipient of this communication you should not copy, disclose or distribute this communication without the authority of Ernst & Young. Any views expressed in this Communication are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Ernst & Young. Except as required at law, Ernst & Young does not represent, warrant and/or guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained nor that the communication is free of errors, virus, interception or interference. Liability limited by the Accountants Scheme, approved under the Professional Standards Act 1994 (NSW) -------------------- ***************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *****************************************************