Re: [WSG] liquid 3-column layout - my head is spinning
Is there any standard for browsers like web standards ? Is there Any idea to standardise web browser lik web standard websites or limit the browser to solve these web standard problems? Jalal www.future-internet.com Lea de Groot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 04 May 2005 22:47:45 +0200, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: - How many of the old browser-versions should be allowed to influence our choice of design-methods? - Aren't there enough bugs and flaws in the new browser-versions? - Where's the quality control for browsers vs. standards -- is there any such thing?I have generally assumed that the upgrade path for opera was pretty good (ie as new version come out people are installing them) This is because people had to make the independant step of installing the thing in the first place!But, as always, log file results drive the testing.Lea-- Lea de GrootElysian Systems - I Understand the Internet Search Engine Optimisation, Usability, Information Architecture, Web DesignBrisbane, Australia**The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmfor some hints on posting to the list getting help** Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your life partner online.
Re: [WSG] liquid 3-column layout - my head is spinning
soft tester wrote: Is there any standard for browsers like web standards ? Think that was the idea behind W3C standards -- originally. Is there Any idea to standardise web browser lik web standard websites or limit the browser to solve these web standard problems? None working. regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] liquid 3-column layout - my head is spinning
I've been working on a three column layout that has been just peachy, other than an IE bug that paints over the content of selected sub sections on hover or when clicking a link: http://tdrake.net/generic-test.html I've tried numerous fixes and even thought I had it solved by replacing hex colors with rgb colors on the hover of links... See how creative I've been... It's still randomly trying to kill me. I'm thinking it is time to try a completely different approach to the three-column layout. Hopefully it will avoid the bizarre combination of floats, positioning, margins, whatever that I have on this page and solve this issue once and for all. I've looked at about 3 dozen web sites this morning discussing the best three column layout and it is getting really confusing. So many of them are variations of each other and there are few dates on the pages to know what is new and better. I like Big John's stuff, but I don't know if they are current. Liquid bleach looks fab, but it might be overkill for this. Please help. What is a bullet-proof three-column layout that gives me a header, footer, and the center column is liquid. I don't care about the order of the divs. It needs to be fairly simple but most importantly free of bugs. This layout needs to be a foundation for years of development. I'd hate to realize 9 months from now that I need to add another div wrapper or something like that. Thanks Ted http://www.tdrake.net ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] liquid 3-column layout - my head is spinning
Drake, Ted C. wrote: I've looked at about 3 dozen web sites this morning discussing the best three column layout and it is getting really confusing. So many of them are variations of each other and there are few dates on the pages to know what is new and better. Hi Ted, I don't know if this one [1] is better, but it is fairly new... In the footer, there is a list of browsers in which I've tested the page And there is a bit more complex design page too [2] [1] http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/challenge/3cols/default.asp [2] http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/challenge/ HTH, Thierry | http://www.TJKDesign.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] liquid 3-column layout - my head is spinning
On Wed, 04 May 2005 11:15:01 -0400, Drake, Ted C. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please help. What is a bullet-proof three-column layout I wish I knew, too. that gives me a header, footer, and the center column is liquid. I don't care about the order of the divs. Just in case you change your mind about source order: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/negativemargins/ (with min/max width) Ted Best, ~david -- http://www.dlaakso.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] liquid 3-column layout - my head is spinning
David Laakso wrote: Just in case you change your mind about source order: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/negativemargins/ FYI: The ALA's article doesn't mention a few things: - links inside the right column appear not to be clickable in Opera 6, - there are background painting problems in IE, - there is one structural hack missing from the markup to help NN6 clear the left column. Thierry | http://www.TJKDesign.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] liquid 3-column layout - my head is spinning
Thierry Koblentz wrote: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/negativemargins/ FYI: The ALA's article doesn't mention a few things: - links inside the right column appear not to be clickable in Opera 6, - there are background painting problems in IE, - there is one structural hack missing from the markup to help NN6 clear the left column. Just some quick questions -- and please don't misunderstand me here. :-) - How many of the old browser-versions should be allowed to influence our choice of design-methods? - Aren't there enough bugs and flaws in the new browser-versions? - Where's the quality control for browsers vs. standards -- is there any such thing? regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] liquid 3-column layout - my head is spinning
On Wed, 04 May 2005 22:47:45 +0200, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: - How many of the old browser-versions should be allowed to influence our choice of design-methods? - Aren't there enough bugs and flaws in the new browser-versions? - Where's the quality control for browsers vs. standards -- is there any such thing? I have generally assumed that the upgrade path for opera was pretty good (ie as new version come out people are installing them) This is because people had to make the independant step of installing the thing in the first place! But, as always, log file results drive the testing. Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - I Understand the Internet http://elysiansystems.com/ Search Engine Optimisation, Usability, Information Architecture, Web Design Brisbane, Australia ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] liquid 3-column layout - my head is spinning
Lea de Groot wrote: But, as always, log file results drive the testing. Sounds pretty counter-productive to me, but I guess it makes economical sense in the short run -- and preserves status quo. Pity I never read log files. I'm too busy -- testing for new bugs. ;-) regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] liquid 3-column layout - my head is spinning
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: Just some quick questions -- and please don't misunderstand me here. :-) NP ;-) - How many of the old browser-versions should be allowed to influence our choice of design-methods? - Aren't there enough bugs and flaws in the new browser-versions? I see your point, but when it comes to choose between different solutions, I find info re: browser compatibility very valuable. Regards, Thierry | http://www.TJKDesign.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
