[WSG] mambo and web standards

2005-05-17 Thread john
Greetings,
I'm strongly considering using Mambo as a CMS, mainly because I have a 
new client that requires a back-end real estate solution, and Mosets has 
created, from what I can tell, exactly what the client needs.

I've never used a CMS before, so I'm wondering if anybody could relieve 
my fears (or justify them).  Can I create a web site for this client, 
and then integrate Mambo into it, or do I have to think further ahead 
and set things up in Mambo, then build a template for it?  I'm sorry if 
those are silly questions, but...well...like I said, I've never used a 
CMS before. :)

Getting more to the point (and on-topic), does Mambo support web 
standards?  I'm obviously going to use CSS and XHTML on this, so I need 
to be sure that I'm not getting into something that goes against my 
design ethics.

Thanks for your help.
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Re: [WSG] mambo and web standards

2005-05-17 Thread Neerav
Im not a WSG moderator, but I know they'll soon point you to joining 
cms@webstandardsgroup.org where your post is not off-topic (OT)

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john wrote:
Greetings,
I'm strongly considering using Mambo as a CMS, mainly because I have a 
new client that requires a back-end real estate solution, and Mosets has 
created, from what I can tell, exactly what the client needs.

I've never used a CMS before, so I'm wondering if anybody could relieve 
my fears (or justify them).  Can I create a web site for this client, 
and then integrate Mambo into it, or do I have to think further ahead 
and set things up in Mambo, then build a template for it?  I'm sorry if 
those are silly questions, but...well...like I said, I've never used a 
CMS before. :)

Getting more to the point (and on-topic), does Mambo support web 
standards?  I'm obviously going to use CSS and XHTML on this, so I need 
to be sure that I'm not getting into something that goes against my 
design ethics.

Thanks for your help.
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Re: [WSG] mambo and web standards

2005-05-17 Thread tee
Hi John, I have had the similar question but dared not ask in this list as I
afraid it maybe off-topic, so I did a little search myself... And I came to
a conclusion that it's not whether Mambo can be 'web standards', but how can
we make it 'web standards'. I haven't come to conclusion yet but the
experiment I have done so far looks promising.

Maybe these three tutorials are helpful to you as they do to me:

Template for CSS layout
http://www.absalom.biz/tutorials/Mambo_Template_Tutorial.html

And this (PC user will benefit more):
http://www.mambosolutions.com/dw_tutorial/

And use your own CSS menu:
http://www.mambobrothers.com/mambo/


tee


 
 Greetings,
 
 I'm strongly considering using Mambo as a CMS, mainly because I have a
 new client that requires a back-end real estate solution, and Mosets has
 created, from what I can tell, exactly what the client needs.
 
 I've never used a CMS before, so I'm wondering if anybody could relieve
 my fears (or justify them).  Can I create a web site for this client,
 and then integrate Mambo into it, or do I have to think further ahead
 and set things up in Mambo, then build a template for it?  I'm sorry if
 those are silly questions, but...well...like I said, I've never used a
 CMS before. :)
 
 Getting more to the point (and on-topic), does Mambo support web
 standards?  I'm obviously going to use CSS and XHTML on this, so I need
 to be sure that I'm not getting into something that goes against my
 design ethics.
 
 Thanks for your help.
 -- 
 
 ~john
 _
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 http://www.DrZeus.net
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Re: [WSG] mambo and web standards

2005-05-17 Thread tee
And by the way, my respectful moderators, before you make up your mind that
this thread is 'off-topic', I sincerely hope you give a benefit of doubts.
CMS by itself may not have anything to do with web standards, but it's all
in the hands of the users. A highly web standards conscious user maybe able
to turn a CMS software to web standards compliant, however I also strongly
believe that a pool of high profile web standards users like this group can
help achieve it a lot easier, with a healthy, on-topic discussion. That
being said, if my argument cannot convince respectful you, despite many
talents and knowledge I see in this list, I will have to admit that this is
not the place I want to learn web standards, and have no regret my email
address be removed.

Regards,

tee


 From: tee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 02:49:20 -0700
 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
 Subject: Re: [WSG] mambo and web standards
 
 Hi John, I have had the similar question but dared not ask in this list as I
 afraid it maybe off-topic, so I did a little search myself... And I came to a
 conclusion that it's not whether Mambo can be 'web standards', but how can we
 make it 'web standards'. I haven't come to conclusion yet but the experiment I
 have done so far looks promising.
 
 Maybe these three tutorials are helpful to you as they do to me:
 
 Template for CSS layout
 http://www.absalom.biz/tutorials/Mambo_Template_Tutorial.html
 
 And this (PC user will benefit more):
 http://www.mambosolutions.com/dw_tutorial/
 
 And use your own CSS menu:
 http://www.mambobrothers.com/mambo/
 
 
 tee
 
 
 
 Greetings,
 
 I'm strongly considering using Mambo as a CMS, mainly because I have a
 new client that requires a back-end real estate solution, and Mosets has
 created, from what I can tell, exactly what the client needs.
 
 I've never used a CMS before, so I'm wondering if anybody could relieve
 my fears (or justify them).  Can I create a web site for this client,
 and then integrate Mambo into it, or do I have to think further ahead
 and set things up in Mambo, then build a template for it?  I'm sorry if
 those are silly questions, but...well...like I said, I've never used a
 CMS before. :)
 
 Getting more to the point (and on-topic), does Mambo support web
 standards?  I'm obviously going to use CSS and XHTML on this, so I need
 to be sure that I'm not getting into something that goes against my
 design ethics.
 
 Thanks for your help.
 -- 
 
 ~john
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 http://www.DrZeus.net
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RE: [WSG] mambo and web standards [MOVED TO CMS]

2005-05-17 Thread Peter Firminger
Absolutely correct Lawrence.

I (as a CMS developer) understand very well the need for standards compliant
systems and a place to discuss the issues. That is why encourage anyone that
is interested (and sadly, many developers are not) to join and use the
WSG-CMS list. Just log in to http://webstandardsgroup.org/manage/ and select
it from the mail lists in your email preferences.

Please move this thread to that list for any further discussion so that
those who are not interested don't need to see the traffic, that is indeed
off-topic, on the mail WSG list.

Regards,

Peter


 It'd be better to discuss in depth on the WSG-CMS list (which I'm also
 on), but suffice to say web standards is an aim of Mambo..
 What that aim
 comprimises and how well it achieves it is more appropriate for the
 WSG-CMS list.


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