[WSG] narrowing the gap between h3 and ul-help

2005-12-19 Thread kvnmcwebn
hello all, just tryin to narrow the distance between my h3 element and some unordered lists. easy enough in ff but negative margins dont seem to budge the ul in ie. example html http://www.mcmonagle.biz/mockup/final5.htm css http://www.mcmonagle.biz/mockup/index3.css

Re: [WSG] narrowing the gap between h3 and ul-help

2005-12-19 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
kvnmcwebn wrote: just tryin to narrow the distance between my h3 element and some unordered lists. easy enough in ff but negative margins dont seem to budge the ul in ie. Not looked at your CSS, but...there's really no need to get out negative margins. Have you set the bottom margin (and

RE: [WSG] narrowing the gap between h3 and ul-help

2005-12-19 Thread kvnmcwebn
Not looked at your CSS, but...there's really no need to get out negative margins. Have you set the bottom margin (and padding) of the h3 and the top margin (and padding) of the ul (and possibly the li elements therein)? i just set all of the above to 0 and it worked. thanks patrick

RE: [WSG] narrowing the gap between h3 and ul-help

2005-12-19 Thread Paul Noone
; -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kvnmcwebn Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2005 3:32 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] narrowing the gap between h3 and ul-help hello all, just tryin to narrow the distance between my h3 element

RE: [WSG] narrowing the gap between h3 and ul-help

2005-12-19 Thread kvnmcwebn
Negative margins will always come back to haunt you later :D I suppose I was cutting corners using them...its just that sometimes they seem to save a lot of hassle-probably because i dont have a deep enough understanding of document flow and such. thanks kvnmcwebn