Re: [WSG] reply from ACA

2004-05-07 Thread Chris Dimmock
Get a visually impaired friend to send the ACA an email based on this:

http://www.bca.org.au/ddacomp.htm

Maybe that will raise the profile of the problem?

Chris
www.cogentis.com.au



On Fri, 07 May 2004 02:08:02 -0400, Ryan Christie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Damn man... I haven't laughed so hard in quite awhile.
> For christsake -- someone please get the Australian .gov's to validate
> proper.
> There's an army of you guys over there. Makes me want to pack my bags
> and jet :)
> 
> (and, I loved this guy's grammar and spelling.)
> 
> -Ryan
> 
> 
> 
> Neerav wrote:
> 
> > The following line from the ACA's source code explains most of the
> > problem:
> > 
> >
> > and the less said about their "accessible sitemap" at
> > http://www.aca.gov.au/help/sitemap.htm (a mess of table cells and font
> > tags) the better
> >
> 
> *
> The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/
> See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm
> for some hints on posting to the list & getting help
> *
> 
>
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Re: [WSG] reply from ACA

2004-05-06 Thread Jackie Reid




Miles said...
>> Seems like they glazed over when reading the accessibility 
information in your original email. 
 
They didnt just "glaze over it" they completely 
missed the point!!!
 
Jackie ReidMock Orange Web Site Development1st Floor92 Victoria 
StreetMACKAY Q 4740Ph: 07 4953 4035
 
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  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Miles Tillinger 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 3:03 PM
  Subject: RE: [WSG] reply from ACA
  
  Seems like they glazed over when reading the 
  accessibility information in your original email.  This is all to 
  familiar for me as there are ppl you can explain the benefits of 
  standards to 10x a day and they still forget what it all means by the 
  next day...  In most cases if it's a small site then the person 
  maintaining it is probably not very web-savvy and probably knows little or 
  nothing of the HTML/CSS that formats the site behind the scenes.  As long 
  as they can publish content with Frontpage then that's all they'll ever 
  want...
  



Re: [WSG] reply from ACA

2004-05-06 Thread Ryan Christie
Damn man... I haven't laughed so hard in quite awhile.
For christsake -- someone please get the Australian .gov's to validate 
proper.
There's an army of you guys over there. Makes me want to pack my bags 
and jet :)

(and, I loved this guy's grammar and spelling.)

-Ryan

Neerav wrote:

The following line from the ACA's source code explains most of the 
problem:


and the less said about their "accessible sitemap" at 
http://www.aca.gov.au/help/sitemap.htm (a mess of table cells and font 
tags) the better

*
The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/
See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm
for some hints on posting to the list & getting help
* 



RE: [WSG] reply from ACA

2004-05-06 Thread Miles Tillinger



Seems 
like they glazed over when reading the accessibility information in your 
original email.  This is all to familiar for me as there are ppl you can 
explain the benefits of standards to 10x a day and they still forget what 
it all means by the next day...  In most cases if it's a small site then 
the person maintaining it is probably not very web-savvy and probably knows 
little or nothing of the HTML/CSS that formats the site behind the scenes.  
As long as they can publish content with Frontpage then that's all they'll ever 
want...

  -Original Message-From: Universal Head 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 2:04 
  PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [WSG] reply from 
  ACA
  You all might be interested in the reply I received from the ACA in 
  response to my email. I leave it to speak for itself. 
  Peter 
  On 07/05/2004, at 2:21 PM, WebMaster wrote: 
  
Dear Mr 
Gifford, 
 Pleqase accept my 
apologies for the delay in respond to your email. 
We are aware of some 
issues with the use of the ACA Website and Apple operating systems and 
are currently working on a fix to the solution. Unfortunately this would 
appear not to be a simple solution and therefore may take some 
time. 
As I'm sure you can 
appreciate maintaining a site that renders well in all browser and operating 
systems is a constant battle for the ACA, however we do endeavour to provide 
equal access to all users. 
It may be of some 
benefit for you to access our site map at (http://www.aca.gov.au/help/sitemap.htm), which will provide you with static html links to all 
pages. 
Regards 

Sheila 
Grant 
Web 
Administrator 
Information Management 
Team 
Australian 
Communications Authority  
  
  Universal 
  Head  
  Design That Works. 
  7/43 Bridge Rd Stanmore 
  NSW 2048 Australia 
  T (+612) 9517 1466 
  F (+612) 9565 4747 
  E [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  W www.universalhead.com 
  


Re: [WSG] reply from ACA

2004-05-06 Thread Neerav
The following line from the ACA's source code explains most of the problem:

and the less said about their "accessible sitemap" at 
http://www.aca.gov.au/help/sitemap.htm (a mess of table cells and font 
tags) the better

--
Neerav Bhatt
http://www.bhatt.id.au
Web Development & IT consultancy
Universal Head wrote:
You all might be interested in the reply I received from the ACA in 
response to my email. I leave it to speak for itself.
Peter

On 07/05/2004, at 2:21 PM, WebMaster wrote:

Dear Mr Gifford,
 Pleqase accept my apologies for the delay in respond to your email.
We are aware of some issues with the use of the ACA Website and
Apple operating systems and are currently working on a fix to the
solution. Unfortunately this would appear not to be a simple
solution and therefore may take some time.
As I'm sure you can appreciate maintaining a site that renders well
in all browser and operating systems is a constant battle for the
ACA, however we do endeavour to provide equal access to all users.
It may be of some benefit for you to access our site map at
(http://www.aca.gov.au/help/sitemap.htm), which will provide you
with static html links to all pages.
Regards
/Sheila Grant/
/Web Administrator/
/Information Management Team/
/Australian Communications Authority/ 

*Universal Head* 
Design That Works.

7/43 Bridge Rd Stanmore
NSW 2048 Australia
T (+612) 9517 1466
F (+612) 9565 4747
E [EMAIL PROTECTED]
W www.universalhead.com
*
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See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm
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[WSG] reply from ACA

2004-05-06 Thread Universal Head
You all might be interested in the reply I received from the ACA in response to my email. I leave it to speak for itself.
Peter


On 07/05/2004, at 2:21 PM, WebMaster wrote:

Dear Mr Gifford,
 Pleqase accept my apologies for the delay in respond to your email.

We are aware of some issues with the use of the ACA Website and Apple operating systems and are currently working on a fix to the solution. Unfortunately this would appear not to be a simple solution and therefore may take some time.

As I'm sure you can appreciate maintaining a site that renders well in all browser and operating systems is a constant battle for the ACA, however we do endeavour to provide equal access to all users.

It may be of some benefit for you to access our site map at (), which will provide you with static html links to all pages.
Regards
Sheila Grant 
Web Administrator 
Information Management Team 
Australian Communications Authority 

Universal Head 
Design That Works.

7/43 Bridge Rd Stanmore
NSW 2048 Australia
T	(+612) 9517 1466
F	(+612) 9565 4747
E	[EMAIL PROTECTED]
W	www.universalhead.com