Re: [WSG] seo / standards question

2008-04-14 Thread Matijs
I'd go for nested lists

ul
liheading 1
ul
liitem 1/li
...
/ul
/li
liheading 2
ul

etc...

And use h's where they are actual headings like Dave Woods suggested.

Gr.

Matijs

On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Joseph Ortenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 On Apr 09, 2008, at 14:36, kevin mcmonagle wrote:

  hi,
  im generating a list of page links from my cms, its not really for a nav
  bar just a section of the site that has a number of related articles.
 
  im  using h2 for the over all list label but am wondering what to use
  for the list break tags.
 
  right now im using li with the title of each page like this.
 
 
  h2section title/h2
  ul
  liapage name 1/a/li
  liapage name 2/a/li
  ...
  /ul
 
 
 
  but im wondering if i should use h2's instead?
 
  would google give more importance to the h2s?
  plus it really is a list of page  headings so i guess semantically it
  could go either way right?
 
 
  so either:
  h2section title/h2
 
  h3apage name/a/h3
  h3apage name2/a/h3
  ...
 
 
  thanks in advance
 
 
  -kevin mcmonagle
 
  www.mcmonagledesign.com
  www.donegalimage.com
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WSG] seo / standards question

2008-04-14 Thread kevin mcmonagle
That makes good sense Matijs but it would take some work to get my cms 
to do that.

Maybe a dl would be the best comprimise?
Is there a huge difference between using that structure and a definition 
list?


-thanks
kevin

Matijs wrote:

I'd go for nested lists

ul
liheading 1
ul
liitem 1/li
...
/ul
/li
liheading 2
ul

etc...

And use h's where they are actual headings like Dave Woods suggested.

Gr.

Matijs

On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Joseph Ortenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


list



On Apr 09, 2008, at 14:36, kevin mcmonagle wrote:

hi,
im generating a list of page links from my cms, its not really
for a nav bar just a section of the site that has a number of
related articles.

im  using h2 for the over all list label but am wondering what
to use for the list break tags.

right now im using li with the title of each page like this.


h2section title/h2
ul
liapage name 1/a/li
liapage name 2/a/li
...
/ul



but im wondering if i should use h2's instead?

would google give more importance to the h2s?
plus it really is a list of page  headings so i guess
semantically it could go either way right?


so either:
h2section title/h2

h3apage name/a/h3
h3apage name2/a/h3
...


thanks in advance


-kevin mcmonagle

www.mcmonagledesign.com http://www.mcmonagledesign.com
www.donegalimage.com http://www.donegalimage.com










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Re: [WSG] seo / standards question

2008-04-14 Thread Joseph Ortenzi

but it makes sense to make sense! ;-)

worth the effort


On Apr 14, 2008, at 10:17, kevin mcmonagle wrote:

That makes good sense Matijs but it would take some work to get my  
cms to do that.

Maybe a dl would be the best comprimise?
Is there a huge difference between using that structure and a  
definition list?


-thanks
kevin

Matijs wrote:

I'd go for nested lists

ul
   liheading 1
   ul
   liitem 1/li
   ...
   /ul
   /li
   liheading 2
   ul

etc...

And use h's where they are actual headings like Dave Woods suggested.

Gr.

Matijs

On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Joseph Ortenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:


   list



   On Apr 09, 2008, at 14:36, kevin mcmonagle wrote:

   hi,
   im generating a list of page links from my cms, its not really
   for a nav bar just a section of the site that has a number of
   related articles.

   im  using h2 for the over all list label but am wondering what
   to use for the list break tags.

   right now im using li with the title of each page like this.


   h2section title/h2
   ul
   liapage name 1/a/li
   liapage name 2/a/li
   ...
   /ul



   but im wondering if i should use h2's instead?

   would google give more importance to the h2s?
   plus it really is a list of page  headings so i guess
   semantically it could go either way right?


   so either:
   h2section title/h2

   h3apage name/a/h3
   h3apage name2/a/h3
   ...


   thanks in advance


   -kevin mcmonagle

   www.mcmonagledesign.com http://www.mcmonagledesign.com
   www.donegalimage.com http://www.donegalimage.com










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Re: [WSG] seo / standards question

2008-04-09 Thread Dave Woods
Go for the first option...

h2section title/h2
ul
liapage name 1/a/li
liapage name 2/a/li
...
/ul

Google won't give anymore weight as it'll simply dilute the weight of all
your h3 tags so only use them where they're relavant and where they are
actually heading up contnet.

I'd always advise creating your HTML for the users first and foremost using
semantic markup. By all means consider what keywords/phrases to use but
never abuse semantics in the hope that it'll benefit the search engines.

Hope that helps.



2008/4/9 kevin mcmonagle [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 hi,
 im generating a list of page links from my cms, its not really for a nav
 bar just a section of the site that has a number of related articles.

 im  using h2 for the over all list label but am wondering what to use for
 the list break tags.

 right now im using li with the title of each page like this.


 h2section title/h2
 ul
 liapage name 1/a/li
 liapage name 2/a/li
 ...
 /ul



 but im wondering if i should use h2's instead?

 would google give more importance to the h2s?
 plus it really is a list of page  headings so i guess semantically it
 could go either way right?


 so either:
 h2section title/h2

 h3apage name/a/h3
 h3apage name2/a/h3
 ...


 thanks in advance


 -kevin mcmonagle

 www.mcmonagledesign.com
 www.donegalimage.com








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[WSG] seo / standards question

2008-04-09 Thread kevin mcmonagle

hi,
im generating a list of page links from my cms, its not really for a nav 
bar just a section of the site that has a number of related articles.


im  using h2 for the over all list label but am wondering what to use 
for the list break tags.


right now im using li with the title of each page like this.


h2section title/h2
ul
liapage name 1/a/li
liapage name 2/a/li
...
/ul



but im wondering if i should use h2's instead?

would google give more importance to the h2s?
plus it really is a list of page  headings so i guess semantically it 
could go either way right?



so either:
h2section title/h2

h3apage name/a/h3
h3apage name2/a/h3
...


thanks in advance


-kevin mcmonagle

www.mcmonagledesign.com
www.donegalimage.com








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RE: [WSG] seo / standards question

2008-04-09 Thread Chris Taylor
Hi,

I'd say use a list, for two reasons. Firstly you said im generating a 
stronglist/strong of page links, and secondly a heading should be a 
heading for something that comes after it in the content. So not this:

h3apage name/a/h3
!-- something should be here... --
h3apage name2/a/h3

But this would be good:

h3apage name/a/h3
pSome content describing page/p

h3apage name2/a/h3
pSome content describing page 2/p

Lists are the way to go, I think.

Chris



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Subject: [WSG] seo / standards question

hi,
im generating a list of page links from my cms, its not really for a nav
bar just a section of the site that has a number of related articles.

im  using h2 for the over all list label but am wondering what to use
for the list break tags.

right now im using li with the title of each page like this.


h2section title/h2
ul
liapage name 1/a/li
liapage name 2/a/li
...
/ul



but im wondering if i should use h2's instead?

would google give more importance to the h2s?
plus it really is a list of page  headings so i guess semantically it
could go either way right?


so either:
h2section title/h2

h3apage name/a/h3
h3apage name2/a/h3
 ...


thanks in advance


-kevin mcmonagle

www.mcmonagledesign.com
www.donegalimage.com








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Re: [WSG] seo / standards question

2008-04-09 Thread Joseph Ortenzi

list


On Apr 09, 2008, at 14:36, kevin mcmonagle wrote:


hi,
im generating a list of page links from my cms, its not really for a  
nav bar just a section of the site that has a number of related  
articles.


im  using h2 for the over all list label but am wondering what to  
use for the list break tags.


right now im using li with the title of each page like this.


h2section title/h2
ul
liapage name 1/a/li
liapage name 2/a/li
...
/ul



but im wondering if i should use h2's instead?

would google give more importance to the h2s?
plus it really is a list of page  headings so i guess semantically  
it could go either way right?



so either:
h2section title/h2

h3apage name/a/h3
h3apage name2/a/h3
...


thanks in advance


-kevin mcmonagle

www.mcmonagledesign.com
www.donegalimage.com








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