Re: [WSG] the Name attribute

2008-12-04 Thread Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
Joe Ortenzi wrote: standards compliance should not be confused with WCAG conformance. HTML is a standard WCAG is a guidance that people use as if it were a standard, which could easily be a standard but is effectively not one. However, complying with WCAG confers added benefits which

Re: [WSG] the Name attribute

2008-12-03 Thread Stuart Foulstone
I was not using the term standards in the sense of a standards to be met then everything is OK, but as a collective of best practices. Web standards in the sense that I meant it, means designing with usability and accessibility in mind. Valid code is a pre-requisite to this. Usability is the

Re: [WSG] the Name attribute

2008-12-03 Thread Andrew Maben
On Dec 3, 2008, at 8:19 AM, Stuart Foulstone wrote: Accessibility is an extension of usability to include non-standard ways of browsing the web. Complying with WCAG is step towards accessibility. Careful consideration has to be given how one applies WCAG meaningfully. Research has shown

Re: [WSG] the Name attribute

2008-12-02 Thread Joe Ortenzi
standards compliance should not be confused with WCAG conformance. HTML is a standard WCAG is a guidance that people use as if it were a standard, which could easily be a standard but is effectively not one. However, complying with WCAG confers added benefits which standards compliance

Re: [WSG] the Name attribute

2008-11-28 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Blinking text is against standards in itself, so how can you do it in a standards compliant way? On Fri, November 28, 2008 10:45 am, Dave Hall wrote: On Thu, 2008-11-27 at 23:11 -0600, Brett Patterson wrote: What Dave? I was simply illustrating how to make text blink in a standards

Re: [WSG] the Name attribute

2008-11-28 Thread Dave Hall
On Thu, 2008-11-27 at 23:11 -0600, Brett Patterson wrote: What Dave? I was simply illustrating how to make text blink in a standards compliant way. You never know someone might find such information useful one day. The example I provided would allow them to avoid using the ugly non standard

Re: [WSG] the Name attribute

2008-11-28 Thread Dave Hall
On Fri, 2008-11-28 at 13:07 +, Stuart Foulstone wrote: Blinking text is against standards in itself, so how can you do it in a standards compliant way? Using the sample I posted - see below. That validates. Cheers Dave On Fri, November 28, 2008 10:45 am, Dave Hall wrote:

RE: [WSG] the Name attribute

2008-11-28 Thread Steve Green
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Hall Sent: 28 November 2008 20:44 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] the Name attribute On Fri, 2008-11-28 at 13:07 +, Stuart Foulstone wrote: Blinking text is against standards in itself, so how can you

Re: [WSG] the Name attribute

2008-11-28 Thread Stuart Foulstone
It may validate, but valid code is just a pre-requisite to achieving standards compliance. On Fri, November 28, 2008 8:43 pm, Dave Hall wrote: On Fri, 2008-11-28 at 13:07 +, Stuart Foulstone wrote: Blinking text is against standards in itself, so how can you do it in a standards compliant

Re: [WSG] the Name attribute

2008-11-27 Thread Dave Hall
On Thu, 2008-11-27 at 10:18 +, David Dorward wrote: Brett Patterson wrote: Where could I find a good information site about the document.images.imageId script line, please? http://www.w3.org/TR/1998/REC-DOM-Level-1-19981001/level-one-html.html#ID-26809268 And if you are trying to

Re: [WSG] the Name attribute

2008-11-27 Thread David Dorward
Brett Patterson wrote: Where could I find a good information site about the document.images.imageId script line, please? http://www.w3.org/TR/1998/REC-DOM-Level-1-19981001/level-one-html.html#ID-26809268 And if you are trying to code using codes such as

Re: [WSG] the Name attribute

2008-11-27 Thread Brett Patterson
What Dave? On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 6:04 AM, Dave Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-11-27 at 10:18 +, David Dorward wrote: Brett Patterson wrote: Where could I find a good information site about the document.images.imageId script line, please?

Re: [WSG] the Name attribute

2008-11-26 Thread Brett Patterson
So I thought. But why, when using JavaScript can you not target the ID of an element such as an image? You can target the name, but not the ID, not without document.getElementById-blah blah blah, so how can it duplicate it? It seems then, that is does not. On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 1:32 PM,

Re: [WSG] the Name attribute

2008-11-26 Thread David Dorward
Brett Patterson wrote: So I thought. But why, when using JavaScript can you not target the ID of an element such as an image? You can. You can target the name, but not the ID, Incorrect. not without document.getElementById Why would you want to do it without document.getElementById? Even

Re: [WSG] the Name attribute

2008-11-26 Thread Brett Patterson
Where could I find a good information site about the document.images.imageId script line, please? And if you are trying to code using codes such as http://www.kirupa.com/forum/showthread.php?t=217502 Just an example. A quick search to find. On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 12:52 PM, David Dorward [EMAIL

[WSG] the Name attribute

2008-11-25 Thread Brett Patterson
I don't why, but XHTML (I am using Strict 1.0 in the below examples), has deprecated the use of the name attribute. That being said, my question is, Why was the name attribute deprecated?. -- Brett P. *** List Guidelines:

Re: [WSG] the Name attribute

2008-11-25 Thread Brett Patterson
That is strange, the examples didn't show. Any idea as to why? On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 12:56 PM, Brett Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't why, but XHTML (I am using Strict 1.0 in the below examples), has deprecated the use of the name attribute. That being said, my question is, Why

Re: [WSG] the Name attribute

2008-11-25 Thread David Dorward
Brett Patterson wrote: I don't why, but XHTML (I am using Strict 1.0 in the below examples), has deprecated the use of the name attribute. That being said, my question is, Why was the name attribute deprecated?. Because (on the elements upon which it was deprecated) it did nothing except