[WSG] ultimate noob question.... is table-less layout meaning literally?

2004-08-16 Thread dnkyjunk
Hey guys, I've just subscribed to this list because i'm a web designer and after reading Jeffrey Zeldman's Designing with web standards I discovered the wonder of CSS and wanted to learn more and keep up to date. Thing I have trouble getting my head round is the term table-less layout. I have

Re: [WSG] ultimate noob question.... is table-less layout meaning literally?

2004-08-16 Thread Neerav
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RE: [WSG] ultimate noob question.... is table-less layout meaning literally?

2004-08-16 Thread Mike Foskett
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Re: [WSG] ultimate noob question.... is table-less layout meaning literally?

2004-08-16 Thread Simon Jessey
noob question is table-less layout meaning literally? Thing I have trouble getting my head round is the term table-less layout. I have started doing entirely CSS based design where I add no design info to the XHTML, and i've had great success, but I've not been able to abandon the use

Re: [WSG] ultimate noob question.... is table-less layout meaning literally?

2004-08-16 Thread Hugh Todd
Duncan, You do need to get your head around this or you remain trapped in the old mindset, which mixes content and appearance. A table, unless it holds tabular data, has no semantic meaning. Especially if you are using nested components. You are including it in your HTML only for the purpose

Re: [WSG] ultimate noob question.... is table-less layout meaning literally? i see it does.

2004-08-16 Thread dunk
At 21:24 16/08/2004 +1000, you wrote: http://www.csszengarden.com/ much inspiration here. thanks Neerav. It's exactly what i needed. and thanks to everyone elses comments. Feel a lot more confident about it now. Duncan ** The discussion list

RE: [WSG] ultimate noob question.... is table-less layout meaning literally?

2004-08-16 Thread John Horner
What about http://www.sitepoint.com ? That's as complicated a structure as any I've seen, and almost completely table-less. That's a particularly good example, because it uses no tables to lay out the page, but right at the bottom where they've got a list of data, best displayed using rows and

Re: [WSG] ultimate noob question.... is table-less layout meaning literally?

2004-08-16 Thread Leslie Riggs
Table-less just means tables aren't used for layout. When used to contain tabular data, that's not layout, that's containing data that SHOULD be in a table. JMHO. Leslie Riggs What about http://www.sitepoint.com ? That's as complicated a structure as any I've seen, and almost completely