Its probably been designed to Web standards so it won't recognise things
like microformats which subvert CSS classes for its own purposes.
On Thu, June 7, 2007 6:15 am, Lucien Stals wrote:
Groupwise is a Novel client (and server) for email and appointments
etc. Think MS Outlook, by Novel. It's
Late to the party, but since I was specifically mentioned it's only
polite to reply ;)
The issue here is about the meaning of the word semantic. Semantics
refer to the *meaning* attached to something. What is the meaning of a
div? It's *use* is structural, but it's *meaning* is ... well, it
On 6 Jun 2007, at 2:59 PM, John Faulds wrote:
Well if we're going to talk about 'pedanticness' it has to be pointed
out that there's no such word; the word you're looking for is
'pedantry'.
Pedanticity?
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On 06/06/07, Nick Gleitzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 6 Jun 2007, at 2:59 PM, John Faulds wrote:
Well if we're going to talk about 'pedanticness' it has to be pointed
out that there's no such word; the word you're looking for is
'pedantry'.
Pedanticity?
Isn't that where they all go
okay, I hate to play post-police, but...
can someone explain to me what this has to do with web standards?
Nick Gleitzman wrote:
On 6 Jun 2007, at 2:59 PM, John Faulds wrote:
Well if we're going to talk about 'pedanticness' it has to be pointed
out that there's no such word; the word you're
On 06/06/07, Raine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
okay, I hate to play post-police, but...
can someone explain to me what this has to do with web standards?
You really have to ask what pedantry has to do with web standards..!? ;)
Let me be so bold as to nip this thread in the bud via one trip to the
dictionary:
pedantic definition
adj.
Characterized by a narrow, often ostentatious concern for book learning
and formal rules: a pedantic attention to details.
pedantic synonyms
adjective
Characterized by a narrow concern
OK, people - enough fun and games.
Lets try and keep the posts on topic and valuable, eh?
:)
warmly,
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Raine wrote:
Let me be so bold as to nip this thread in the bud...
Gee, sorry. I just thought, given the intensity that some people
display here, a little levity every now and then helps the medicine go
down - or something... Look what fun we can have:
... often tiresome ... display ...
Lucien Stals wrote:
It seems to me that many people here have different ideas about what
semantic means. It would be helpful it we shared a common
understanding in our conversations. I welcome, and invite, a *polite
and professional* debate about the use of the term semantic as it
relates to
Maybe I used a poor example.
Microformats would certainly be my first choice for this. I just wish
there was *more* software that could use it. And a plugin to add
microformat data into a groupwise client. That would be nice :)
I have no idea what groupwise is but could a user script could
Groupwise is a Novel client (and server) for email and appointments
etc. Think MS Outlook, by Novel. It's the proprietary email client and
address book and calendar app we are obliged to use at work. It even
comes with it's own chat client that doesn't talk to any other chat
protocols.
Being a
Hi Ben and others,
Here is my own bit of pedanticness...
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On 6/06/2007 at 11:27
Lucien Stals wrote:
I suspect that the following code...
fieldsetlegendstaff details/legend
dl
dtemail/dtdd[EMAIL PROTECTED]/dd
dtphone/dtdd12345678/dd
/dl
/fieldset
Is perfectly valid, semantic markup which a screen reader would render
just fine.
Logical, no doubt of it. But see Steve
I too would love to see the results of this experiment.
Any takers?
I suspect that the following code...
fieldsetlegendstaff details/legend
dl
dtemail/dtdd[EMAIL PROTECTED]/dd
dtphone/dtdd12345678/dd
/dl
/fieldset
perhaps ... but for the purpose of marking up contact details in a
meaningful
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PO Box 218 Hawthorn, 3122, Australia
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telephone: +61 3 9214 4474
office: AD223
On 6/06/2007 at 1:25 pm, Nick Gleitzman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Lucien Stals
Maybe I used a poor example.
Microformats would certainly be my first choice for this. I just wish
there was *more* software that could use it. And a plugin to add
microformat data into a groupwise client. That would be nice :)
Lucien.
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Lucien Stals wrote:
I suspect that the following code...
fieldsetlegendstaff details/legend dl
dtemail/dtdd[EMAIL PROTECTED]/dd
dtphone/dtdd12345678/dd
Well if we're going to talk about 'pedanticness' it has to be pointed out
that there's no such word; the word you're looking for is 'pedantry'.
On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 12:54:04 +1000, Lucien Stals
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Hi Ben and others,
Here is my own bit of pedanticness...
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Thank you very much... mike and kerry...
Thaks a ton..I got the concept...
:-)
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Hi all. I would really appreciate if any
Hi all.
I would really appreciate if any tell me what is the term called
semantic?
Thanks a ton
Navii
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Naveen asked:
Hi all.
I would really appreciate if any tell me what is the term called
semantic?
It means relating to meaning. To give an example, some tags in HTML
relate to presentation, like i or b but they don't really tell you
anything about the meaning of the text that they refer to.
I would really appreciate if any tell me
what is the term called semantic?
Maybe this article by Mel Pedley will help shed some light on semantics for
you, Navii. http://accessites.org/site/2007/04/semantics-why-bother/
Cheers.
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