RE: [WSG] Animated gifs
Not sure if it would help in this instance, but what about splitting this into two files: load a transparent-background logo to quickly load in front, with the ripples as a background? You may then be able to tile the background to save a little. Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lynette Smith Sent: 21 November 2008 00:59 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Animated gifs I had to do this once in the past... and in the end I split the animation up into its individual frames, optimized each frame to within an inch of its life, then re-built it as an animation. Cut the file size down to 10% of the original size. That sounds good, if a lot of work. Thanks Lyn *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Animated gifs
Thanks Mike - will have a look this weekend Lyn Not sure if it would help in this instance, but what about splitting this into two files: load a transparent-background logo to quickly load in front, with the ripples as a background? You may then be able to tile the background to save a little. Mike *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Animated gifs
You could try and redo the frame rate on it so that its not as smooth, which the client may not like, but it will cut down the file size. Or maybe look for a royalty free FLASH version that's similar. That would be much smaller. No matter what you try to explain to some people they just don't get that this sort of thing doesn't bring in sales. Its only cute the first time then its old. You could show him the site in one of the addons that show the different download speeds like dial-up then while he's watching it SLOWLY download explain he is losing sales prospects by the second. Frederick R. Matzen Eye Risk Design www.eyeriskdeisng.com www.onelastwish.com On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 4:48 PM, Lynette Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Good morning Re-designing a site for a client who wants to use the same header image from his old site. This is an animated gif with rippling water. Am I right in thinking an animated gif will not optimise?The pic is 1.21 MB ! The optimised version is 24.2 kb but alas, no moving water. Kind regards Lyn www.westernwebdesign.com.au Affordable web design, Perth *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Animated gifs
Re-designing a site for a client who wants to use the same header image from his old site. This is an animated gif with rippling water. Am I right in thinking an animated gif will not optimise?The pic is 1.21 MB ! The optimised version is 24.2 kb but alas, no moving water. I just read the following article that mentions one tool to optimize GIF animations. See step 4. http://yuiblog.com/blog/2008/11/14/imageopt-3/ Chris *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Animated gifs
Thanks Frederick and Chris - that's very interesting. Will see what I can do. Lyn *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Animated gifs
I had to do this once in the past... and in the end I split the animation up into its individual frames, optimized each frame to within an inch of its life, then re-built it as an animation. Cut the file size down to 10% of the original size. I recall that I did screen-shots of every 'frame' of the animation and started from there, but I am sure I later found a way to pull the frames straight out of the file. On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 9:34 AM, Lynette Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Thanks Frederick and Chris - that's very interesting. Will see what I can do. Lyn *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Animated gifs
I had to do this once in the past... and in the end I split the animation up into its individual frames, optimized each frame to within an inch of its life, then re-built it as an animation. Cut the file size down to 10% of the original size. That sounds good, if a lot of work. Thanks Lyn *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Animated gifs
Just tell the client that you can charge them for a full day of your time to fix it, or they can just have a still version for free. Let them make the decision for you ;-) On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Lynette Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I had to do this once in the past... and in the end I split the animation up into its individual frames, optimized each frame to within an inch of its life, then re-built it as an animation. Cut the file size down to 10% of the original size. That sounds good, if a lot of work. Thanks Lyn *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Animated gifs
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 7:46 PM, David Pietersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had to do this once in the past... and in the end I split the animation up into its individual frames, optimized each frame to within an inch of its life, then re-built it as an animation. Cut the file size down to 10% of the original size. I recall that I did screen-shots of every 'frame' of the animation and started from there, but I am sure I later found a way to pull the frames straight out of the file. GIMP will allow you to open it as separate layers which you can optimize. But please, convince him this is a bad idea! Show him some good looking websites that are similar in their style but don't rely on animation. Make him think it was HIS idea. -- -- Christian Montoya christianmontoya.net *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Animated gifs
If you have Adobe Photoshop you probably also have Adobe ImageReady. You can use ImageReady to edit and optimise animated gifs. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
