Re: [WSG] Can't select text on IE

2005-11-17 Thread Kay Smoljak
On 11/16/05, CHAUDHRY, Bhuvnesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The problem: Using IE6, I am unable to select a part of the text from the
 content area. When I try to select a para or a line, all the text on the
 page within the parent div tag including the side menu bar get selected.

There is a JavaScript workaround - I'm not sure where I got this but
it's fixed the problem on one of my sites where it was occuring (code
at the end).

It introduces a page flash under certain cache settings in IE,
however. So it depends what's more important to you and your client,
the flash or the text selection.

Regards,
Kay.

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Kay Smoljak
http://kay.zombiecoder.com/


// begin code

// fix absolute positioning text selection problem with IE6
if (window.createPopup  document.compatMode 
document.compatMode==CSS1Compat){
  document.onreadystatechange = onresize = function fixIE6AbsPos(){
if (!document.body) return;
if (document.body.style.margin != 0px) document.body.style.margin = 0;
onresize = null;
document.body.style.height = 0;
setTimeout(function(){ document.body.style.height =
document.documentElement.scrollHeight+'px'; }, 1);
setTimeout(function(){ onresize = fixIE6AbsPos; }, 100);
  }
}

// end code
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RE: [WSG] Can't select text on IE

2005-11-16 Thread Focas, Grant
Title: Message








Id say selecting text is a
usability/accessibility issue. 



Grant











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03:55
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text on IE





Or...View Source and copy. Assuming that's
an option.









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Sent: Wednesday, 16 November 2005
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Subject: RE: [WSG] Can't select
text on IE



Paul,











It a simplecopy and paste
requirement.





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From:
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Sent: Wednesday, 16 November 2005
15:39 
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: RE: [WSG] Can't select
text on IE

Why do you want to select the text? This
might go some way towards providing an adequate solution that doesn't involve
totally overhauling your stylsheet.









From:
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Sent: Wednesday, 16 November 2005
3:03 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] Can't select text
on IE
Importance: High

Hi,


I
have written an html page based on CSS layout. The page has a parent
div tag which contains many other div tags including one for Side Menu,
one for Masthead and one for the Content.

The
problem: Using IE6, I am unable to select a part of the text from the content
area. When I try to select a para or a line, all the text on the page within
the parent div tag including the side menu bar get selected.

Does
anyone have any suggestions about this problem ? 

Thanks


__ 

Bhuvnesh Chaudhry

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Re: [WSG] Can't select text on IE

2005-11-16 Thread Christian Montoya
99% of users have no idea what view-source is. If they try to select
any text on the page, and they can't, they won't be happy.

Is the section positioned? Does it have any divs overlapping?

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RE: [WSG] Can't select text on IE

2005-11-16 Thread Paul Noone
 
Christian Montoya sagely expounded:

99% of users have no idea...

Nuff said. ;)

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Re: [WSG] Can't select text on IE

2005-11-16 Thread Hassan Schroeder
Paul Noone wrote:
 Why do you want to select the text? 

Probably worth mentioning that this IE text-selection bug also
breaks Macromedia Contribute (at least the Windows version) so
areas of the page that should be client-editable aren't...

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Re: [WSG] Can't select text on IE

2005-11-16 Thread Dustin Diaz
This does in fact occur when absolutely positioned divs collide on top
of each other. There aren't exactly workarounds...it just means that
you either deal with it, or you redevelop your website with a bit more
care, or just use floats (if they can suffice).
espn.com is an infamous site that produces this effect. also try
http://veerle.duoh.com

Good luck eh,
Dustin Diaz
http://www.dustindiaz.com/

On 11/16/05, Hassan Schroeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Paul Noone wrote:
  Why do you want to select the text?

 Probably worth mentioning that this IE text-selection bug also
 breaks Macromedia Contribute (at least the Windows version) so
 areas of the page that should be client-editable aren't...

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RE: [WSG] Can't select text on IE

2005-11-15 Thread Focas, Grant
Title: Can't select text on IE








IE has a bug where you cant select
text in your content area if it is positioned absolutely. Try relative
positioning and use margins.



Grant











From:
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Sent: Wednesday, 16 November 2005
03:03
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Subject: [WSG] Can't select text
on IE
Importance: High





Hi,


I
have written an html page based on CSS layout. The page has a parent
div tag which contains many other div tags including one for Side Menu,
one for Masthead and one for the Content.

The
problem: Using IE6, I am unable to select a part of the text from the content
area. When I try to select a para or a line, all the text on the page within
the parent div tag including the side menu bar get selected.

Does
anyone have any suggestions about this problem ? 

Thanks


__ 

Bhuvnesh Chaudhry

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RE: [WSG] Can't select text on IE

2005-11-15 Thread Paul Noone
Title: Can't select text on IE



Why do you want to select the text? This might go some way 
towards providing an adequate solution that doesn't involve totally overhauling 
your stylsheet.


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CHAUDHRY, 
BhuvneshSent: Wednesday, 16 November 2005 3:03 PMTo: 
wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: [WSG] Can't select text on 
IEImportance: High

Hi, 
I have written an html page based on CSS layout. The 
page has a parent div tag which contains many other div tags including 
one for Side Menu, one for Masthead and one for the Content.
The problem: Using IE6, I am unable to select a part 
of the text from the content area. When I try to select a para or a line, all 
the text on the page within the parent div tag including the side menu 
bar get selected.
Does anyone have any suggestions about this problem 
? 
Thanks 
__ 
Bhuvnesh 
Chaudhry
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RE: [WSG] Can't select text on IE

2005-11-15 Thread CHAUDHRY, Bhuvnesh
Title: Message



Paul,

It a 
simplecopy and paste requirement.

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
  Behalf Of Paul NooneSent: Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:39 
  To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: RE: [WSG] Can't 
  select text on IE
  Why do you want to select the text? This might go some 
  way towards providing an adequate solution that doesn't involve totally 
  overhauling your stylsheet.
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CHAUDHRY, 
  BhuvneshSent: Wednesday, 16 November 2005 3:03 PMTo: 
  wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: [WSG] Can't select text on 
  IEImportance: High
  
  Hi, 
  I have written an html page based on CSS layout. 
  The page has a parent div tag which contains many other div tags 
  including one for Side Menu, one for Masthead and one for the 
  Content.
  The problem: Using IE6, I am unable to select a 
  part of the text from the content area. When I try to select a para or a line, 
  all the text on the page within the parent div tag including the side 
  menu bar get selected.
  Does anyone have any suggestions about this problem 
  ? 
  Thanks 
  __ 
  Bhuvnesh 
  Chaudhry
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RE: [WSG] Can't select text on IE

2005-11-15 Thread Paul Noone
Title: Message



Then sadly you'll need to dispense with any absolute divs 
thatobstruct the flow of the content you're trying to 
select.


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CHAUDHRY, 
BhuvneshSent: Wednesday, 16 November 2005 3:48 PMTo: 
wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: RE: [WSG] Can't select text on 
IE

Paul,

It a 
simplecopy and paste requirement.

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
  Behalf Of Paul NooneSent: Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:39 
  To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: RE: [WSG] Can't 
  select text on IE
  Why do you want to select the text? This might go some 
  way towards providing an adequate solution that doesn't involve totally 
  overhauling your stylsheet.
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CHAUDHRY, 
  BhuvneshSent: Wednesday, 16 November 2005 3:03 PMTo: 
  wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: [WSG] Can't select text on 
  IEImportance: High
  
  Hi, 
  I have written an html page based on CSS layout. 
  The page has a parent div tag which contains many other div tags 
  including one for Side Menu, one for Masthead and one for the 
  Content.
  The problem: Using IE6, I am unable to select a 
  part of the text from the content area. When I try to select a para or a line, 
  all the text on the page within the parent div tag including the side 
  menu bar get selected.
  Does anyone have any suggestions about this problem 
  ? 
  Thanks 
  __ 
  Bhuvnesh 
  Chaudhry
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RE: [WSG] Can't select text on IE

2005-11-15 Thread Paul Noone
Title: Message



Or...View Source and copy. Assuming that's an 
option.


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CHAUDHRY, 
BhuvneshSent: Wednesday, 16 November 2005 3:48 PMTo: 
wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: RE: [WSG] Can't select text on 
IE

Paul,

It a 
simplecopy and paste requirement.

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
  Behalf Of Paul NooneSent: Wednesday, 16 November 2005 15:39 
  To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: RE: [WSG] Can't 
  select text on IE
  Why do you want to select the text? This might go some 
  way towards providing an adequate solution that doesn't involve totally 
  overhauling your stylsheet.
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CHAUDHRY, 
  BhuvneshSent: Wednesday, 16 November 2005 3:03 PMTo: 
  wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: [WSG] Can't select text on 
  IEImportance: High
  
  Hi, 
  I have written an html page based on CSS layout. 
  The page has a parent div tag which contains many other div tags 
  including one for Side Menu, one for Masthead and one for the 
  Content.
  The problem: Using IE6, I am unable to select a 
  part of the text from the content area. When I try to select a para or a line, 
  all the text on the page within the parent div tag including the side 
  menu bar get selected.
  Does anyone have any suggestions about this problem 
  ? 
  Thanks 
  __ 
  Bhuvnesh 
  Chaudhry
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