Re: [WSG] Incorporating Terms and Cons in signup page
I think the better approach is put a link to users see the Terms & Conditions, because you probably will need to show this again in another section of the site. For JS capabilities browsers you can use the power of JS and Ajax to do a great interface. =D -- Regards, Juarez P. A. Filho http://juarezpaf.com "The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams." Eleanor Roosevelt *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Incorporating Terms and Cons in signup page
What I see a lot of times that seems to be a decent idea is in the form have a check box with the label "I have read and agree to the Terms & Conditions". Then, have "Terms & Conditions" actually be a link to a separate document (preferably a web page) which actually has the terms and conditions. It seems to work well and those that don't read them anyways don't have to deal with it, but it's readily available for those that do, and it gets them to check the box regardless. John Unsworth wrote: Hi WSG, I'm wondering about the best method to incorporate in a signup form a Terms and Conditions agreement, which being so long will be bought to the page externally. Or if it's thought best, maybe not! On a previous occasion I went forward using the tag. The advantage to my mind is that, my document (that may change in future) is separate to the form and for those who don't have a browser capable of using the tag, can see alternative text to link to the separately hosted T&C page. But it's been put to me at work, there might be a way to house the document in a div, give the div a fixed size and make it scrollable. Alternatively I could use a textarea element, although I'm given to understand it would need to be outside the so as not include it in the 'Signup' event when the submit button is clicked. However to satisfy the designer, who follows that the convention is that the form is visually seen before the last submit button, I'd use CSS to position it - but that doesn't sound very semantic to me? Putting it on another page, that you would link to, read, then return to the form to agree to has been rejected for the sanctity of the concept of a single page signup document. I hope I've been clear, and I guess I'm interested in anything similar to this in best practice, accessibility and standards. Cheers for just being there folks, John Unsworth *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Christian Snodgrass Azure Ronin Web Design http://www.arwebdesign.net http://www.numberoverflow.com http://www.htmlblox.com Phone: 859.816.7955 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Incorporating Terms and Cons in signup page
I would recommend a div element with a fixed height and overflow:auto.
Use of a textarea would not be semantically correct because it is not user
input. The only reason that leads to its use is that is gives you a scroll
bar for free, however this can be achieved with relative ease as mentioned
before. The submission problem is more of a side-effect than a root problem.
div.TermsAndConditions
{
height: 8em;
overflow: auto;
}
Your text here.
And here ...
If required, you could also have a checkbox where they acknowledge their
acceptance of the terms. This would be implemented as with any other form
field because it semantically is user input.
Thanks,
Tatham Oddie
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On Sep 30, 2008, at 9:15 AM, John Unsworth wrote:
> Hi WSG,
> I'm wondering about the best method to incorporate in a signup form a
> Terms and Conditions agreement, which being so long will be bought to
> the page externally. Or if it's thought best, maybe not!
> On a previous occasion I went forward using the tag. The
> advantage to my mind is that, my document (that may change in future)
> is separate to the form and for those who don't have a browser capable
> of using the tag, can see alternative text to link to the
> separately hosted T&C page.
> But it's been put to me at work, there might be a way to house the
> document in a div, give the div a fixed size and make it scrollable.
> Alternatively I could use a textarea element, although I'm given to
> understand it would need to be outside the so as not include it
> in the 'Signup' event when the submit button is clicked. However to
> satisfy the designer, who follows that the convention is that the form
> is visually seen before the last submit button, I'd use CSS to
> position it - but that doesn't sound very semantic to me?
> Putting it on another page, that you would link to, read, then return
> to the form to agree to has been rejected for the sanctity of the
> concept of a single page signup document.
> I hope I've been clear, and I guess I'm interested in anything similar
> to this in best practice, accessibility and standards.
> Cheers for just being there folks,
> John Unsworth
Hi John,
I haven't ever needed to write this before, but I have seen a decent
sized scroll box at the bottom of a form with a check box to confirm
they have read it and agree to it.
All the ones I have seen are above the final submit button, but I'm
not sure if they are truly inside the form or not.
Depending on how you are submitting the form, and how big of a file
the T&C page is, you COULD submit it and just ignore it... But
depending on the load of the server it might take a little bit longer
to process the form.
Just something to think about :)
--
Jason Pruim
Raoset Inc.
Technology Manager
MQC Specialist
11287 James St
Holland, MI 49424
www.raoset.com
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Re: [WSG] Incorporating Terms and Cons in signup page
Well we've been working on a global sign in and registration system for some time now and the conclusion we've come to with the T's & C's is to not include it in the page by default - have a link to it and hope that when the user clicks back their user agent will repopulate the fields (as most seem to these days). For the javascript enabled we pull in the text via ajax and store it in a scrollable div so it doesn't take up too much screen real-estate. Hope that helps Mark On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 2:15 PM, John Unsworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Hi WSG, > I'm wondering about the best method to incorporate in a signup form a > Terms and Conditions agreement, which being so long will be bought to > the page externally. Or if it's thought best, maybe not! > On a previous occasion I went forward using the tag. The > advantage to my mind is that, my document (that may change in future) > is separate to the form and for those who don't have a browser capable > of using the tag, can see alternative text to link to the > separately hosted T&C page. > But it's been put to me at work, there might be a way to house the > document in a div, give the div a fixed size and make it scrollable. > Alternatively I could use a textarea element, although I'm given to > understand it would need to be outside the so as not include it > in the 'Signup' event when the submit button is clicked. However to > satisfy the designer, who follows that the convention is that the form > is visually seen before the last submit button, I'd use CSS to > position it - but that doesn't sound very semantic to me? > Putting it on another page, that you would link to, read, then return > to the form to agree to has been rejected for the sanctity of the > concept of a single page signup document. > I hope I've been clear, and I guess I'm interested in anything similar > to this in best practice, accessibility and standards. > Cheers for just being there folks, > John Unsworth > > > *** > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > *** > > *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Incorporating Terms and Cons in signup page
On Sep 30, 2008, at 9:15 AM, John Unsworth wrote: Hi WSG, I'm wondering about the best method to incorporate in a signup form a Terms and Conditions agreement, which being so long will be bought to the page externally. Or if it's thought best, maybe not! On a previous occasion I went forward using the tag. The advantage to my mind is that, my document (that may change in future) is separate to the form and for those who don't have a browser capable of using the tag, can see alternative text to link to the separately hosted T&C page. But it's been put to me at work, there might be a way to house the document in a div, give the div a fixed size and make it scrollable. Alternatively I could use a textarea element, although I'm given to understand it would need to be outside the so as not include it in the 'Signup' event when the submit button is clicked. However to satisfy the designer, who follows that the convention is that the form is visually seen before the last submit button, I'd use CSS to position it - but that doesn't sound very semantic to me? Putting it on another page, that you would link to, read, then return to the form to agree to has been rejected for the sanctity of the concept of a single page signup document. I hope I've been clear, and I guess I'm interested in anything similar to this in best practice, accessibility and standards. Cheers for just being there folks, John Unsworth Hi John, I haven't ever needed to write this before, but I have seen a decent sized scroll box at the bottom of a form with a check box to confirm they have read it and agree to it. All the ones I have seen are above the final submit button, but I'm not sure if they are truly inside the form or not. Depending on how you are submitting the form, and how big of a file the T&C page is, you COULD submit it and just ignore it... But depending on the load of the server it might take a little bit longer to process the form. Just something to think about :) -- Jason Pruim Raoset Inc. Technology Manager MQC Specialist 11287 James St Holland, MI 49424 www.raoset.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
