Re: [WSG] Lengthy form buttons

[Spark]

 I must add, they work fine in IE / XP , if you are using the 'windows
classic' theme (without the fancy round buttons)

 Just to be more specific :D
 Spark!


On 12/7/05, Ben Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 08/12/05, Tim Burgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Does anyone have a clue as to why this happens:
> >
> *I think* it's something to do with a different implementation of XP
> Visual Styles in Trident, but I don't know what the specific problem
> is (it could be as little as being a bug in the IE themes
> implementation that they just didn't fix, really).
>
> As far as I know IE uses a different interface to get the themed
> buttons than that of other Windows applications (note that the buttons
> are themed fine in Firefox and scale pretty well).
>
> The only way I can think to get around it would be to style the
> buttons with CSS, but you'll have to sacrifice the native look.
>
> Ben
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Re: [WSG] Lengthy form buttons

[Tim Burgan]

Thanks Nick,

   Nick Cowie wrote:


The  element is the "new" kid on the block it was only
introduced in 1997 with HTML 4.0
http://www.w3.org/TR/WD-html40-970708/interact/forms.html#edef-BUTTON 
 has be around a lot longer.




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Re: [WSG] Lengthy form buttons

[Nick Cowie]

Tim askedDoes  still submit a form by default, or does it
require _javascript_ to do so?  =  but don't take my word for it, do what I did when I found out about the  element, go visit the W3c 
http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/interact/forms.html#h-17.5
If it doesn't require _javascript_.. why doesn't everyone use type="submit">?Because  everybody has been taught / learnt to use the  element.The  element is the "new" kid on the block it was only introduced in 1997 with HTML 
4.0 http://www.w3.org/TR/WD-html40-970708/interact/forms.html#edef-BUTTON   has be around a lot longer.
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Re: [WSG] Lengthy form buttons

[Tim Burgan]

Hi Nick,

Does  still submit a form by default, or does it 
require javascript to do so?


If it doesn't require javascript.. why doesn't everyone use type="submit">?


Tim



Nick Cowie wrote:

One way around this is to use  instead of type="submit">


The button tag offers far more opportunity to style than input, and 
allows you to include an image inside a button tag.


The buttons look the same  in all modern browsers regadless of OS.

Did a little experimenting here: 
http://nickcowie.com/2005/stylish-accessible-buttons/ 






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RE: [WSG] Lengthy form buttons

[Paul Noone]

I find it hard to believe but it looks like it's using an image file to draw
the button?!?! 

I'v enever noticed this before. Perhaps I've never had buttons that long.

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Subject: [WSG] Lengthy form buttons

Does anyone have a clue as to why this happens:


IE6.0 only on XP makes form buttons display really pixelated what the
button's width gets to a certain size.

It doesn't seem to occur is any Mac browsers, and no other Win browsers or
versions

More specifically, when either the label is >= 19 characters, or the width
is >= 192 pixels.

Form buttons without width defined:


Form buttons with width defined:


Does anyone have any ideas as to how to get around this?


Tim
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Re: [WSG] Lengthy form buttons

[Nick Cowie]

One way around this is to use  instead of The button tag offers far more opportunity to style than input, and allows you to include an image inside a button tag.
The buttons look the same  in all modern browsers regadless of OS.Did a little experimenting here: http://nickcowie.com/2005/stylish-accessible-buttons/
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Re: [WSG] Lengthy form buttons

[Ben Ward]

On 08/12/05, Tim Burgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anyone have a clue as to why this happens:
>
*I think* it's something to do with a different implementation of XP
Visual Styles in Trident, but I don't know what the specific problem
is (it could be as little as being a bug in the IE themes
implementation that they just didn't fix, really).

As far as I know IE uses a different interface to get the themed
buttons than that of other Windows applications (note that the buttons
are themed fine in Firefox and scale pretty well).

The only way I can think to get around it would be to style the
buttons with CSS, but you'll have to sacrifice the native look.

Ben
http://ben-ward.co.uk
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