Re: [WSG] Redundant Code

2005-03-14 Thread russ - maxdesign
> I have subsequently used display: none; on the headers. Is this OK, or would > you recommend your > suggestion as being more standards-based? display: none has known issues for screen readers: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/fir/ The absolute method, which I have since heard referred to as "

Re: [WSG] Redundant Code

2005-03-14 Thread Sarah Peeke (XERT)
Hi Russ Thanks very much for your reply. > The most powerful way to achieve this (but not supported by IE) would be to > use adjacent sibling selectors so no classes were used at all. For example: > > #subnav ul li, #subnav ul li + li { background: yellow; } > #subnav ul li + li + li, #subnav ul

Re: [WSG] Redundant Code

2005-03-14 Thread russ - maxdesign
> 2. I have used a modification of one of Russ' tutorials for the #header and > #subnav - to float the > menu elements left and right. Is there a cleaner way to achieve this other > than to apply a class to > *every* tag? The most powerful way to achieve this (but not supported by IE) would be to

RE: [WSG] Redundant Code

2005-03-14 Thread Mary Ann
Thank you, everyone- Wow . . . you guys are great! Mary Ann -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sarah Peeke (XERT) Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 7:13 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] Redundant Code Hi Mary Ann Seems as though

RE: [WSG] Redundant Code

2005-03-14 Thread Sarah Peeke (XERT)
Hi Mary Ann Seems as though everyone has pipped me to the post! > I printed out your test site because I thought it was so very clean and > attractive and I wanted to study your use of styles in creating it. You (and others) may be interested in the following links which have helped me with thi

RE: [WSG] Redundant Code

2005-03-14 Thread Jonathan Bloy
On Monday, March 14, 2005 5:44pm, Sigurd Magnusson wrote: > >Don't know the maximum number of pixels a page can have; it very likely >depends on the user agent. I would have thought the most robust way is >to have a fluid design; which led me to an idea--having a fluid design >only in the print med

Re: [WSG] Redundant Code

2005-03-14 Thread Sigurd Magnusson
pages suffer from this same problem . . . really maddening when trying to solve a technical problem. Thanks for your help. Mary Ann -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sarah Peeke (XERT) Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 7:35 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org

RE: [WSG] Redundant Code

2005-03-14 Thread Paul Novitski
At 03:05 PM 3/14/2005, Mary Ann wrote: I see you have set the container width at 760px. Does anyone know what is the maximum number of pixels for page width in order to avoid truncating the text along the left side of a print job? Even Microsoft's support pages suffer from this same prob

RE: [WSG] Redundant Code

2005-03-14 Thread Mary Ann
me problem . . . really maddening when trying to solve a technical problem. Thanks for your help. Mary Ann -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sarah Peeke (XERT) Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 7:35 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG]

Re: [WSG] Redundant Code

2005-03-13 Thread Sarah Peeke (XERT)
Siggy See below: > I think what you and I are both really waiting for is XHTML2; except we need > to wait for browsers and W3C to adopt it :P > > http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml2/mod-list.html#edef_list_nl > > > >Contents >Introduction > > > Terms > May >

Re: [WSG] Redundant Code

2005-03-13 Thread Sigurd Magnusson
The change to the heirarchy above is great, but it doesn't help the #header, #mainnav and #subnav lists because there isn't a heading for these. If you look at the page with styles disabled you'll see what I mean. I think what you and I are both really waiting for is XHTML2; except we need to wa

Re: [WSG] Redundant Code

2005-03-13 Thread Sarah Peeke (XERT)
Hi Siggy Thanks for your reply. > Sub Heading 1 > > Category 1 > Category 2 > Category 3 > Category 4 > Category 5 > Category 6 > > Sub Heading 2 Sub Heading 1 > The change to the heirarchy above is great, but it doesn't help the #header, #mainnav and #su

Re: [WSG] Redundant Code

2005-03-13 Thread Sigurd Magnusson
#1 - not sure #2 If you want to apply something to every li within #header, use #header li { ... } Regarding #3, nesting your menus will create a clearer heirachy; e.g. change Sub Heading 3 Category 1 Category 2 Category 3 Category 4 Category 5 Category 6 to Sub Heading 1 Categ