Re: [WSG] Semantic status of images in headers

2004-10-04 Thread Clayton Lengel-Zigich
Another thing you might want to consider telling him, and this isn't
exactly a web standards issues, is that google may consider this
tactic (wrapping a blank white rectangle in h1 tag) to be deceptive
and SPAM.

On Mon, 4 Oct 2004 17:55:16 +1000, Hugh Todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A client of mine is teaching himself CSS. I took a look at some of his
> code today (at his request) and saw that while he had set up a
> hierarchy of headers (h1, h2, h3) in the HTML, he had done no more than
> put an image inside each of them, with an "alt" tag. One of them was a
> white rectangle inside the h1 tag, with an alt="Welcome".


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RE: [WSG] Semantic status of images in headers

2004-10-04 Thread Peter Goddard
Title: RE: [WSG] Semantic status of images in headers





Hugh


I think you are right. There is some debate about the use of image replacement techniques and how effective they are from a standards perspective. The best technique I have seen was devised by Todd Fahrner and is detailed at Jeffrey Zeldman's A List Apart.

Try the following links:


http://www.alistapart.com/articles/dynatext/
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/fir/
http://www.alistapart.com/authors/toddfahrner/
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/_javascript_replacement/


and Douglas Bowman has his well respected opinion on the matter here:-


http://www.stopdesign.com/articles/replace_text/


HTH


Peter
 



-Original Message-
From: Hugh Todd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 04 October 2004 08:55
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [WSG] Semantic status of images in headers


A client of mine is teaching himself CSS. I took a look at some of his 
code today (at his request) and saw that while he had set up a 
hierarchy of headers (h1, h2, h3) in the HTML, he had done no more than 
put an image inside each of them, with an "alt" tag. One of them was a 
white rectangle inside the h1 tag, with an alt="Welcome".


My advice to him was that having the h1 tags around images doesn't turn 
them or their alt tags into proper headers. A text reader will still 
read the image as an image, and a web crawler won't find the h1 text 
it's looking for.


Then I had a tiny doubt. I thought it conceivable that an "alt" tag for 
an image inside an h tag could inherit status from its position. But it 
doesn't does it? Can anyone confirm what I told him?


Example:



height="40px" />


-Hugh Todd


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