Re: [WSG] Skip nav links, tab through
Thanks for your replies Steve and Phillipe, sorry to take so long to get back. My Safari works well now, so that's good news. I can't figure out how to set this up in Firefox, any ideas? Cheers On 16/11/2007, Tee G. Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 15, 2007, at 5:42 PM, Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: You need to turn FKA (Full Keyboard Access) 'on' in System Preferences Keyboard and Mouse. Also for Safari and Camino: Safari: Preferences Advanced: see the checkbox. Camino: Preferences Web Features: see the checkboxes at the bottom. Thanks Steve and Philippe, Finally got it working. I didn't check the 'Advanced' as I am average user :-) So much for the universal access of Apple! Glad to know Camino has this feature too (I swear I checked it) as this is my default browser for web browsing. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Skip nav links, tab through
There's no reason why you shouldn't be able to tab through the links in Firefox. Links are not on the tab sequence in Safari by default, but you can turn that on in the Preferences. I have no idea if users actually do in practice. Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Collins Sent: 15 November 2007 14:45 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Skip nav links, tab through Hi all, I've added a hidden skip navigation link to my site, that I want to show up when you tab through each page. I'm using the method described on the webaim site: http://www.webaim.org/techniques/skipnav/#focus Problem is, I realised that you can't actually tab through the links on a page using Firefox or Safari. I am guessing this has to do with Tabbed Browsing shortcuts?! Does anyone know a better way of doing this, so when someone tabs through your site they get the Skip Navigation link displayed? Cheers *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Skip nav links, tab through
I do think that the latest version of Firefox (v 2.0.0.9) may have a problem with tabbing as I've not been able to tab through stuff either since upgrading... this might be a bug; it may just be me being stupid but it's certainly a bit of a pain in the arse! - Original Message From: Steve Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Thursday, 15 November, 2007 3:13:09 PM Subject: RE: [WSG] Skip nav links, tab through There's no reason why you shouldn't be able to tab through the links in Firefox. Links are not on the tab sequence in Safari by default, but you can turn that on in the Preferences. I have no idea if users actually do in practice. Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Collins Sent: 15 November 2007 14:45 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Skip nav links, tab through Hi all, I've added a hidden skip navigation link to my site, that I want to show up when you tab through each page. I'm using the method described on the webaim site: http://www.webaim.org/techniques/skipnav/#focus Problem is, I realised that you can't actually tab through the links on a page using Firefox or Safari. I am guessing this has to do with Tabbed Browsing shortcuts?! Does anyone know a better way of doing this, so when someone tabs through your site they get the Skip Navigation link displayed? Cheers *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** ___ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Skip nav links, tab through
Thanks for your help everyone. For some reason my version of Firefox and Safari are both not tabbing through links. They just keep tabbing around the form fields on the actual browser. Anyway, I will check it on another machine. Thanks Thierry and Jamie, I have added the :focus element now, so should be all good once I can test on another machine. Thanks everyone. On 15/11/2007, Jamie Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Paul, I've actually seen this before, and this approach is pretty much ideal, the only tweak you have to make is as well as having a:active you also need a:focus and this will fix your issue. ul.skipNav li a:focus, ul.skipNav li a:active { /* your active styles*/} Hope this helps Cheers Jamie. On 15/11/2007, Steve Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's no reason why you shouldn't be able to tab through the links in Firefox. Links are not on the tab sequence in Safari by default, but you can turn that on in the Preferences. I have no idea if users actually do in practice. Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Collins Sent: 15 November 2007 14:45 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Skip nav links, tab through Hi all, I've added a hidden skip navigation link to my site, that I want to show up when you tab through each page. I'm using the method described on the webaim site: http://www.webaim.org/techniques/skipnav/#focus Problem is, I realised that you can't actually tab through the links on a page using Firefox or Safari. I am guessing this has to do with Tabbed Browsing shortcuts?! Does anyone know a better way of doing this, so when someone tabs through your site they get the Skip Navigation link displayed? Cheers *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Skip nav links, tab through
Hi Paul, I've actually seen this before, and this approach is pretty much ideal, the only tweak you have to make is as well as having a:active you also need a:focus and this will fix your issue. ul.skipNav li a:focus, ul.skipNav li a:active { /* your active styles*/} Hope this helps Cheers Jamie. On 15/11/2007, Steve Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's no reason why you shouldn't be able to tab through the links in Firefox. Links are not on the tab sequence in Safari by default, but you can turn that on in the Preferences. I have no idea if users actually do in practice. Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Collins Sent: 15 November 2007 14:45 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Skip nav links, tab through Hi all, I've added a hidden skip navigation link to my site, that I want to show up when you tab through each page. I'm using the method described on the webaim site: http://www.webaim.org/techniques/skipnav/#focus Problem is, I realised that you can't actually tab through the links on a page using Firefox or Safari. I am guessing this has to do with Tabbed Browsing shortcuts?! Does anyone know a better way of doing this, so when someone tabs through your site they get the Skip Navigation link displayed? Cheers *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Skip nav links, tab through
I've added a hidden skip navigation link to my site, that I want to show up when you tab through each page. I'm using the method described on the webaim site: http://www.webaim.org/techniques/skipnav/#focus Problem is, I realised that you can't actually tab through the links on a page using Firefox or Safari. I am guessing this has to do with Tabbed Browsing shortcuts?! Does anyone know a better way of doing this, so when someone tabs through your site they get the Skip Navigation link displayed? Change this: #skip a:active { position:static; width:auto; height:auto; } To this: #skip a:active, #skip a:focus { position:static; width:auto; height:auto; } But IMO (FWIW) these links should not be hidden. -- Regards, Thierry | http://www.TJKDesign.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Skip nav links, tab through
On Nov 15, 2007, at 7:13 AM, Steve Green wrote: Links are not on the tab sequence in Safari by default, but you can turn that on in the Preferences. I have no idea if users actually do in practice. I still unable to figure out how Safari tab feature works. I already have it turned on but when I 'tab', the feature never work for any sites but the Safari menu (address bar and bookmark bar) only. I don't know what I am missing, as I obviously can get the tabbing work in Firefox. tee *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Skip nav links, tab through
On Nov 15, 2007, at 5:42 PM, Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: You need to turn FKA (Full Keyboard Access) 'on' in System Preferences Keyboard and Mouse. Also for Safari and Camino: Safari: Preferences Advanced: see the checkbox. Camino: Preferences Web Features: see the checkboxes at the bottom. Thanks Steve and Philippe, Finally got it working. I didn't check the 'Advanced' as I am average user :-) So much for the universal access of Apple! Glad to know Camino has this feature too (I swear I checked it) as this is my default browser for web browsing. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***