Re: [WSG] Skip nav links, tab through

2007-11-19 Thread Paul Collins
Thanks for your replies Steve and Phillipe, sorry to take so long to
get back. My Safari works well now, so that's good news. I can't
figure out how to set this up in Firefox, any ideas?

Cheers

On 16/11/2007, Tee G. Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On Nov 15, 2007, at 5:42 PM, Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:

 
 
  You need to turn FKA (Full Keyboard Access)  'on' in System
  Preferences  Keyboard and Mouse.
  Also for Safari and Camino:
  Safari: Preferences  Advanced: see the checkbox.
  Camino: Preferences   Web Features: see the checkboxes at the bottom.
 
 Thanks Steve and Philippe,

 Finally got it working. I didn't check the 'Advanced' as I am average
 user :-)
 So much for the universal access of Apple!

 Glad to know Camino has this feature too (I swear I checked it) as
 this is my default browser for web browsing.




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RE: [WSG] Skip nav links, tab through

2007-11-15 Thread Steve Green
There's no reason why you shouldn't be able to tab through the links in
Firefox. Links are not on the tab sequence in Safari by default, but you can
turn that on in the Preferences. I have no idea if users actually do in
practice.

Steve

 

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Sent: 15 November 2007 14:45
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] Skip nav links, tab through

Hi all,

I've added a hidden skip navigation link to my site, that I want to show
up when you tab through each page. I'm using the method described on the
webaim site:
http://www.webaim.org/techniques/skipnav/#focus

Problem is, I realised that you can't actually tab through the links on a
page using Firefox or Safari. I am guessing this has to do with Tabbed
Browsing shortcuts?!

Does anyone know a better way of doing this, so when someone tabs through
your site they get the Skip Navigation link displayed?

Cheers


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Re: [WSG] Skip nav links, tab through

2007-11-15 Thread Ross Bruniges
I do think that the latest version of Firefox (v 2.0.0.9) may have a problem 
with tabbing as I've not been able to tab through stuff either since 
upgrading...

this might be a bug; it may just be me being stupid but it's certainly a bit of 
a pain in the arse!

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From: Steve Green [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, 15 November, 2007 3:13:09 PM
Subject: RE: [WSG] Skip nav links, tab through

There's no reason why you shouldn't be able to tab through the links in
Firefox. Links are not on the tab sequence in Safari by default, but
 you can
turn that on in the Preferences. I have no idea if users actually do in
practice.

Steve

 

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 On
Behalf Of Paul Collins
Sent: 15 November 2007 14:45
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] Skip nav links, tab through

Hi all,

I've added a hidden skip navigation link to my site, that I want to
 show
up when you tab through each page. I'm using the method described on
 the
webaim site:
http://www.webaim.org/techniques/skipnav/#focus

Problem is, I realised that you can't actually tab through the links on
 a
page using Firefox or Safari. I am guessing this has to do with Tabbed
Browsing shortcuts?!

Does anyone know a better way of doing this, so when someone tabs
 through
your site they get the Skip Navigation link displayed?

Cheers


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Re: [WSG] Skip nav links, tab through

2007-11-15 Thread Paul Collins
Thanks for your help everyone. For some reason my version of Firefox
and Safari are both not tabbing through links. They just keep tabbing
around the form fields on the actual browser.

Anyway, I will check it on another machine.  Thanks Thierry and Jamie,
I have added the :focus element now, so should be all good once I can
test on another machine.

Thanks everyone.


On 15/11/2007, Jamie Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Paul,

 I've actually seen this before,  and this approach is pretty much ideal, the
 only tweak you have to make is as well as having a:active you also need
 a:focus and this will fix your issue.

 ul.skipNav li a:focus, ul.skipNav li a:active { /* your active styles*/}

 Hope this helps

 Cheers
 Jamie.

 On 15/11/2007, Steve Green  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  There's no reason why you shouldn't be able to tab through the links in
  Firefox. Links are not on the tab sequence in Safari by default, but you
 can
  turn that on in the Preferences. I have no idea if users actually do in
  practice.
 
  Steve
 
 
 
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  Behalf Of Paul Collins
  Sent: 15 November 2007 14:45
  To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
  Subject: [WSG] Skip nav links, tab through
 
  Hi all,
 
  I've added a hidden skip navigation link to my site, that I want to show
  up when you tab through each page. I'm using the method described on the
  webaim site:
  http://www.webaim.org/techniques/skipnav/#focus
 
  Problem is, I realised that you can't actually tab through the links on a
  page using Firefox or Safari. I am guessing this has to do with Tabbed
  Browsing shortcuts?!
 
  Does anyone know a better way of doing this, so when someone tabs through
  your site they get the Skip Navigation link displayed?
 
  Cheers
 
 
 
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Re: [WSG] Skip nav links, tab through

2007-11-15 Thread Jamie Stewart
Hi Paul,

I've actually seen this before,  and this approach is pretty much ideal, the
only tweak you have to make is as well as having a:active you also need
a:focus and this will fix your issue.

ul.skipNav li a:focus, ul.skipNav li a:active { /* your active styles*/}

Hope this helps

Cheers
Jamie.

On 15/11/2007, Steve Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 There's no reason why you shouldn't be able to tab through the links in
 Firefox. Links are not on the tab sequence in Safari by default, but you
 can
 turn that on in the Preferences. I have no idea if users actually do in
 practice.

 Steve



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 Sent: 15 November 2007 14:45
 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
 Subject: [WSG] Skip nav links, tab through

 Hi all,

 I've added a hidden skip navigation link to my site, that I want to show
 up when you tab through each page. I'm using the method described on the
 webaim site:
 http://www.webaim.org/techniques/skipnav/#focus

 Problem is, I realised that you can't actually tab through the links on a
 page using Firefox or Safari. I am guessing this has to do with Tabbed
 Browsing shortcuts?!

 Does anyone know a better way of doing this, so when someone tabs through
 your site they get the Skip Navigation link displayed?

 Cheers


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RE: [WSG] Skip nav links, tab through

2007-11-15 Thread Thierry Koblentz
 I've added a hidden skip navigation link to my site, that I want to
 show up when you tab through each page. I'm using the method described
 on the webaim site:
 http://www.webaim.org/techniques/skipnav/#focus

 Problem is, I realised that you can't actually tab through the links
 on a page using Firefox or Safari. I am guessing this has to do with
 Tabbed Browsing shortcuts?!

 Does anyone know a better way of doing this, so when someone tabs
 through your site they get the Skip Navigation link displayed?


Change this:
#skip a:active
{
position:static;
width:auto;
height:auto;
}

To this:
#skip a:active,
#skip a:focus
{
position:static;
width:auto;
height:auto;
}

But IMO (FWIW) these links should not be hidden.

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Regards,
Thierry | http://www.TJKDesign.com






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Re: [WSG] Skip nav links, tab through

2007-11-15 Thread Tee G. Peng


On Nov 15, 2007, at 7:13 AM, Steve Green wrote:


 Links are not on the tab sequence in Safari by default, but you can
turn that on in the Preferences. I have no idea if users actually  
do in

practice.


I still unable to figure out how Safari tab feature works. I already  
have  it turned on but when I 'tab', the feature never work for any  
sites but the Safari menu (address bar and bookmark bar) only. I  
don't know what I am missing, as I obviously  can get the tabbing  
work in Firefox.


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Re: [WSG] Skip nav links, tab through

2007-11-15 Thread Tee G. Peng



On Nov 15, 2007, at 5:42 PM, Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:




You need to turn FKA (Full Keyboard Access)  'on' in System  
Preferences  Keyboard and Mouse.

Also for Safari and Camino:
Safari: Preferences  Advanced: see the checkbox.
Camino: Preferences   Web Features: see the checkboxes at the bottom.


Thanks Steve and Philippe,

Finally got it working. I didn't check the 'Advanced' as I am average  
user :-)

So much for the universal access of Apple!

Glad to know Camino has this feature too (I swear I checked it) as  
this is my default browser for web browsing.





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