Re: [WSG] Slightly OT... Interview with IE Dev team

2005-01-13 Thread David R
Sorry for bringing up this (really) dead thread But I finally got a response from the press team... suffice to say it wasn't what I wanted to hear: Brian Peterson wrote: Hi David, Thank you for the additional information and I appreciate your patience with this request. However, I just heard

RE: [WSG] Slightly OT... Interview with IE Dev team

2005-01-07 Thread Wong Chin Shin
AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Slightly OT... Interview with IE Dev team Microsoft has been hyping about web-applications more than you'd imagine, the MSDN Library is full of articles on the subject. 3 of the included posters in the 2003 edition are about web

Re: [WSG] Slightly OT... Interview with IE Dev team

2005-01-06 Thread Roger Johansson
A while a go, I wrote a bit about the problems with IE [1], and asked myself (and anyone reading) some questions about why Microsoft has not done anything to make IE better in several years. Several interesting theories are mentioned in the comments, but what I think is most likely closest

Re: [WSG] Slightly OT... Interview with IE Dev team

2005-01-06 Thread David R
A respondant to Roger's blog wrote: Microsoft is not improving standards support in IE because they want to discourage the use of the browser as a platform for developing applications that are not operating system dependant. Improving support for CSS, PNG, and other standards such as Xforms,

Re: [WSG] Slightly OT... Interview with IE Dev team

2005-01-06 Thread Roger Johansson
On 6 jan 2005, at 19.14, David R wrote: But I'm convinced Microsoft will make IE7 support standards... why? Because VS 2005 supports the entire XHTML1.1 and CSS2.1 spec, even if Internet Explorer 6 doesn't. This would be wasting the VS dev team's time if they weren't going to make these

Re: [WSG] Slightly OT... Interview with IE Dev team

2005-01-06 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Microsoft has been hyping about web-applications more than you'd imagine, the MSDN Library is full of articles on the subject. 3 of the included posters in the 2003 edition are about web-applications. They don't think about W3C-standards based applications. They are just using a buzzrword to

Re: [WSG] Slightly OT... Interview with IE Dev team

2005-01-06 Thread Brian Cummiskey
Kornel Lesinski wrote: How *Microsoft* would benefit from supporting XHTML and CSS2? To play the counter act here... How does microsoft benefit by offering IE at all? It's free. Updates are free. It costs them bandwidth for downloads and updates. It costs them staff time to code, fix, patch,

RE: [WSG] Slightly OT... Interview with IE Dev team

2005-01-06 Thread Ryan Nichols
, 2005 10:59 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Slightly OT... Interview with IE Dev team Microsoft has been hyping about web-applications more than you'd imagine, the MSDN Library is full of articles on the subject. 3 of the included posters in the 2003 edition are about web

RE: [WSG] Slightly OT... Interview with IE Dev team

2005-01-06 Thread Mike Pepper
() www.seowebsitepromotion.com www.gawds.org GAWDS Admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.gawds.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ryan Nichols Sent: 06 January 2005 19:59 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] Slightly OT... Interview with IE Dev team I think

Re: [WSG] Slightly OT... Interview with IE Dev team

2005-01-06 Thread heretic
How does microsoft benefit by offering IE at all? It's free. Updates are free. It costs them bandwidth for downloads and updates. It costs them staff time to code, fix, patch, etc. and they don't get a dime off it. Rhetorical I guess but it's a good point. MS benefits from ubiquity. MS

RE: [WSG] Slightly OT... Interview with IE Dev team

2005-01-05 Thread Ted Drake
I'd like to know what their reaction is to the IE7 project and whether or not they would consider adding the functionality in one of their service pack upgrades. Ted -Original Message- From: David R [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 9:44 AM To:

Re: [WSG] Slightly OT... Interview with IE Dev team

2005-01-05 Thread Charles Martin
David R wrote: I was wondering if any of you have any specific questions, queries, or comments regarding the development of IE, and more specifically, IE7 which may, or may not, come with Longhorn (before... if we're lucky) Well, one of the peeves most web developers have about IE is that it

Re: [WSG] Slightly OT... Interview with IE Dev team

2005-01-05 Thread Tom Livingston
Proper PNG support ? Tom Livingston Senior Multimedia Artist Visit the award-winning mlinc.com site On Jan 5, 2005, at 12:44 PM, David R wrote: 'Lo guys After being instigated by Channel9 (http://channel9.msdn.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=34005 (And I'm W3bbo, btw)) I

Re: [WSG] Slightly OT... Interview with IE Dev team

2005-01-05 Thread Kornel Lesinski
I was wondering if any of you have any specific questions, queries, or comments regarding the development of IE, and more specifically, IE7 which may, or may not, come with Longhorn (before... if we're lucky) Does Microsoft feel resposibility for the web? Do they realize how much web traffic

Re: [WSG] Slightly OT... Interview with IE Dev team

2005-01-05 Thread csslist
LMFAO! hahahahahahahahaha how about making it like firefox? and how about seperating it from the os for all the dumb ppl who still use it and pass on all the viruses like the previous user suggested, how about actually FOLLING the w3c and not going against it and trying to make everyone

Re: [WSG] Slightly OT... Interview with IE Dev team

2005-01-05 Thread Ben Curtis
After being instigated by Channel9 (http://channel9.msdn.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=34005 (And I'm W3bbo, btw)) I managed to get through to one of Microsoft's PR interview-arrangers people. I was wondering if any of you have any specific questions, queries, or comments regarding the

Re: [WSG] Slightly OT... Interview with IE Dev team

2005-01-05 Thread Wayne Godfrey
Naturally they want to develop a better product, Oh really? That's a laugh. All Microsoft is interested in is sticking a very large hose directly into your wallet to suck as much cash out as possible. This is the 8000-pound gorilla who believes in web standards as long as those standards are

Re: [WSG] Slightly OT... Interview with IE Dev team

2005-01-05 Thread Ben Curtis
Naturally they want to develop a better product, Oh really? That's a laugh. All Microsoft is interested in is sticking a very large hose directly into your wallet to suck as much cash out as possible. This is the 8000-pound gorilla who believes in web standards as long as those standards are

Re: [WSG] Slightly OT... Interview with IE Dev team

2005-01-05 Thread James Bennett
On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 15:22:45 -0500, Wayne Godfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh really? That's a laugh. All Microsoft is interested in is sticking a very large hose directly into your wallet to suck as much cash out as possible. This is the 8000-pound gorilla who believes in web standards as long

Re: [WSG] Slightly OT... Interview with IE Dev team

2005-01-05 Thread csslist
sure but maybe they should add some Ethical responsibilty to that as well instead of trying to make this planet microsoft they can start by being honest and remove the whole os, wb interaction and maybe we could at least start to get a handle on the virus situation meanwhile billy is spend

Re: [WSG] Slightly OT... Interview with IE Dev team

2005-01-05 Thread Kornel Lesinski
responsibility only, which is to maximize return on investment. He has done this incredibly well. I'm deeply worried that Microsoft is just going to make tabbed browsing add-on, to put some fire out, and keep it's 12-year old engine. From their point of view, following web standards is: *

RE: [WSG] Slightly OT... Interview with IE Dev team

2005-01-05 Thread Peter Tilbrook
Actually I could not care less if there is another IE as I am more than happy with Firefox. In fact when I re-installed XP I chose not to include IE (it is still there for Windows Update etc but harder to choose as a default browser). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [WSG] Slightly OT... Interview with IE Dev team

2005-01-05 Thread Mariusz Stankiewicz
They should just ship firefox with longthorn and forget about IE7 On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 04:44 am, David R wrote: 'Lo guys After being instigated by Channel9 (http://channel9.msdn.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=34005 (And I'm W3bbo, btw)) I managed to get through to one of Microsoft's PR

Re: [WSG] Slightly OT... Interview with IE Dev team

2005-01-05 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 11:17:48 +1100, Mariusz Stankiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They should just ship firefox with longthorn and forget about IE7 No, thats crazy talk! ...but they could buy out Opera Software... ;) -- regards, Kornel Lesiski

Re: [WSG] Slightly OT... Interview with IE Dev team

2005-01-05 Thread Barry Beattie
ummm didnt I read somewhere that the next IE browser will be with the next OS (longhorn) in 2006? anyone confirm that? cheers barry.b

Re: [WSG] Slightly OT... Interview with IE Dev team

2005-01-05 Thread Bruce
heretic wrote: I was wondering if any of you have any specific questions, queries, or comments regarding the development of IE, and more specifically, IE7 which may, or may not, come with Longhorn (before... if we're lucky) I would say that as far as I am concerned the ball is in their

Re: [WSG] Slightly OT... Interview with IE Dev team

2005-01-05 Thread Andrew Krespanis
On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 16:07:32 +1000, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: didn't I read somewhere that the next IE browser will be with the next OS (longhorn) in 2006? anyone confirm that? cheers barry.b G'day Barry ;D That's the official word; though your 2006 delivery date is a bit