RE: [WSG] dl question

2008-08-06 Thread Elizabeth Spiegel
Hi Joe

Just curious - why a separate dl for each property - surely this is just one
list of properties?


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Subject: Re: [WSG] dl question

To clarify, when people use a definition list for something other than
actual definitions and terms, they usually use the dt's and dd's to
represent the relationship of the items within the dl.

For example - markup for a list of properties for sale:

dl
dtPhoto of Property/dt
dtAddress of Property/dt
ddPrice of Property/dd
ddBeds and Baths/dd
/dl
dl
dtPhoto of Property/dt
dtAddress of Property/dt
ddPrice of Property/dd
ddBeds and Baths/dd
/dl
dl
dtPhoto of Property/dt
dtAddress of Property/dt
ddPrice of Property/dd
ddBeds and Baths/dd
/dl
dl
dtPhoto of Property/dt
dtAddress of Property/dt
ddPrice of Property/dd
ddBeds and Baths/dd
/dl

 In this case the dt's handle the terms, or way we identify a property
- by a picture of it or by address.

The dd's handle the attributes of the property: bedrooms, baths, price
etc.

You can apply this principle to almost any information - sometimes a tabular
layout works even better - it just depends on your needs.

The dl used in this examples works great on crappy cellphones since its
elements stack.

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Stuart Foulstone wrote:
 A dl is a LIST of definition terms and their description.

 dt is a definition term to be described (not title).

 dd is description of the definition term.


 See http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/lists.html#h-10.3


 On Mon, August 4, 2008 4:20 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Hi all,

 I was under the impression a dl could only contain one dt and one 
 or many dd's.

 But I have just come across a piece of code that uses multiple dt's 
 in the one dl

 Upon further investigation, it seems this is legitimate 
 practicebut does it make sense?!?!

 Semantically, isn't the whole point of a dl to use definition data 
 tags (dd's) to describe a definition title (dt)!? Does it make 
 sense to have multiple definition titles in the same dl?! Or does 
 it make more sense to have a seperate dl for each dt??
 __
 Christian Fagan
 Fagan Design
 fagandesign.com.au


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Re: [WSG] dl question

2008-08-04 Thread Stuart Foulstone
A dl is a LIST of definition terms and their description.

dt is a definition term to be described (not title).

dd is description of the definition term.


See http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/lists.html#h-10.3


On Mon, August 4, 2008 4:20 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,

 I was under the impression a dl could only contain one dt and one
 or many dd's.

 But I have just come across a piece of code that uses multiple dt's
 in the one dl

 Upon further investigation, it seems this is legitimate
 practicebut does it make sense?!?!

 Semantically, isn't the whole point of a dl to use definition data
 tags (dd's) to describe a definition title (dt)!? Does it make
 sense to have multiple definition titles in the same dl?! Or does it
 make more sense to have a seperate dl for each dt??
 __
 Christian Fagan
 Fagan Design
 fagandesign.com.au


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Re: [WSG] dl question

2008-08-04 Thread Joseph Taylor
To clarify, when people use a definition list for something other than 
actual definitions and terms, they usually use the dt's and dd's to 
represent the relationship of the items within the dl.


For example - markup for a list of properties for sale:

dl
   dtPhoto of Property/dt
   dtAddress of Property/dt
   ddPrice of Property/dd
   ddBeds and Baths/dd
/dl
dl
   dtPhoto of Property/dt
   dtAddress of Property/dt
   ddPrice of Property/dd
   ddBeds and Baths/dd
/dl
dl
   dtPhoto of Property/dt
   dtAddress of Property/dt
   ddPrice of Property/dd
   ddBeds and Baths/dd
/dl
dl
   dtPhoto of Property/dt
   dtAddress of Property/dt
   ddPrice of Property/dd
   ddBeds and Baths/dd
/dl

In this case the dt's handle the terms, or way we identify a property 
- by a picture of it or by address.


The dd's handle the attributes of the property: bedrooms, baths, price 
etc.


You can apply this principle to almost any information - sometimes a 
tabular layout works even better - it just depends on your needs.


The dl used in this examples works great on crappy cellphones since 
its elements stack.


Joseph R. B. Taylor
/Designer / Developer/
--
Sites by Joe, LLC
/Clean, Simple and Elegant Web Design/
Phone: (609) 335-3076
Fax: (866) 301-8045
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Stuart Foulstone wrote:

A dl is a LIST of definition terms and their description.

dt is a definition term to be described (not title).

dd is description of the definition term.


See http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/lists.html#h-10.3


On Mon, August 4, 2008 4:20 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Hi all,

I was under the impression a dl could only contain one dt and one
or many dd's.

But I have just come across a piece of code that uses multiple dt's
in the one dl

Upon further investigation, it seems this is legitimate
practicebut does it make sense?!?!

Semantically, isn't the whole point of a dl to use definition data
tags (dd's) to describe a definition title (dt)!? Does it make
sense to have multiple definition titles in the same dl?! Or does it
make more sense to have a seperate dl for each dt??
__
Christian Fagan
Fagan Design
fagandesign.com.au


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RE: [WSG] dl question

2008-08-03 Thread Tatham Oddie
DL = definition LIST

Just like you have multiple bullet points in a UL or OL, you can have
multiple entries in a DL. It's a perfectly valid use.


Thanks,

Tatham Oddie
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Subject: [WSG] dl question

Hi all,

I was under the impression a dl could only contain one dt and one  
or many dd's.

But I have just come across a piece of code that uses multiple dt's  
in the one dl

Upon further investigation, it seems this is legitimate  
practicebut does it make sense?!?!

Semantically, isn't the whole point of a dl to use definition data  
tags (dd's) to describe a definition title (dt)!? Does it make  
sense to have multiple definition titles in the same dl?! Or does it  
make more sense to have a seperate dl for each dt??
__
Christian Fagan
Fagan Design
fagandesign.com.au


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Re: [WSG] dl question

2008-08-03 Thread Blake
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 1:20 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Semantically, isn't the whole point of a dl to use definition data tags
 (dd's) to describe a definition title (dt)!? Does it make sense to have
 multiple definition titles in the same dl?! Or does it make more sense to
 have a seperate dl for each dt??

A DL is a definition LIST - a list of definitions. Multiple terms and
definitions makes perfect sense.


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Re: [WSG] dl question

2008-08-03 Thread Kevin Futter
On 4/08/08 1:20 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I was under the impression a dl could only contain one dt and one
 or many dd's.
 
 But I have just come across a piece of code that uses multiple dt's
 in the one dl
 
 Upon further investigation, it seems this is legitimate
 practicebut does it make sense?!?!
 
 Semantically, isn't the whole point of a dl to use definition data
 tags (dd's) to describe a definition title (dt)!? Does it make
 sense to have multiple definition titles in the same dl?! Or does it
 make more sense to have a seperate dl for each dt??

The point you probably haven't considered is that it's a definition *list* -
a list of things and their definitions. So, one dl can have as many dts
(and their attendant dds) as you like.

-- 
Kevin Futter
Webmaster, St. Bernard's College
http://www.sbc.melb.catholic.edu.au/


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