Re: [WSG] to many links, was narrowing the gap
What are you serving that site off? a 14.4k modem? The site looks like it should be broken into sections anyway, you've dedicated half the front page to navigation which is far too much, and far too intimidating. I would break the site into those top level headings (childcare, personal help support), with the current sub links under those. If they want a further level under that then add them to the new top level heading homepages above. Then to appease the client, offer to build a sitemap page (which is good for SEO anyway) that contains all the links to all the sections of the site at once, dedicate the entire page layout to this (like a tree layout). Make the link to that sitemap quite prominent. After writing all this out the site is still loading(!) Samuel kvnmcwebn wrote: The change below worked for me. .mainleft ul { margin-top: 0px; thanks paul that simplifies it, also i always get stuck with these crazy navition schemes. The client signed of on this layout with different content then came back with loads more subcategory links then he had originally. Its almost overwhelming, i think that another level of navigation might be called for, that is- categories to sub categories with a location filter as well. I dont want to use drop downs. Anyone have anythoughts on this? example html http://www.mcmonagle.biz/mockup/final6.htm css http://www.mcmonagle.biz/mockup/index3.css http://www.mcmonagle.biz/mockup/nav.css -best kvncwebn ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] to many links, was narrowing the gap
The client will *always* come back with items they've not considered until later and they will *always* see them as having enough importance to warrant being part of the main menu structure. Navigation is a beach and its elements can become as numerous as the grains of sand that accumulate in the delicate areas of your SpeedosTM. You need to insist upon a brief list of primary menu items for the sake of appearance and ease of navigation. If properly defined these should be intuitive enough not to warrant displaying all the child categories for that section in the first instance. From what I can see there are already more than enough navigation links on the site. If the parent toddler link has other items under it then I would simply use a bullet menu on its own page for sub-navigation. Better yet, I would be reducing the homepage down to just the H3s and using them as section pages which contain secondary navigation. If they're inflexible on this point then you can style your H3s to have the submenus hidden initially and then display on click. This doesn't require javascript or flyouts. Most, if not all, of it can be done with pure CSS and a smidgen of server-side scripting. Take a look at http://d81314.i50.quadrahosting.com.au for an example of the dynamic menus I'm referring to. In this case I've actually got a third level nested as well but you don't need to see any of them until you click through. -- Paul A Noone Webmaster, ASHM [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kvnmcwebn Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2005 9:28 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] to many links, was narrowing the gap The change below worked for me. .mainleft ul { margin-top: 0px; thanks paul that simplifies it, also i always get stuck with these crazy navition schemes. The client signed of on this layout with different content then came back with loads more subcategory links then he had originally. Its almost overwhelming, i think that another level of navigation might be called for, that is- categories to sub categories with a location filter as well. I dont want to use drop downs. Anyone have anythoughts on this? example html http://www.mcmonagle.biz/mockup/final6.htm css http://www.mcmonagle.biz/mockup/index3.css http://www.mcmonagle.biz/mockup/nav.css -best kvncwebn ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] to many links, was narrowing the gap
paul and samuel, thanks for the sound advice, i will put it to good use. I just realized that basically the home page is a site map right now! -best kvnmcwebn ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **