Re: [WSG] transitional, accessible popups?

2004-03-18 Thread Gyrus
At 18:06 18/03/2004 +0100, you wrote:
It's quite fine, IMO. You should consider however making it a little
less mouse-centric by adding a onkeypress event that does just the same
than onclick. That would ask then for abstracting the code to a funcion
and maybe rewording the title of the link
Sorry about the nit-picking :-)
Sure, I've not got round to getting onclick vs. onkeypress clear in my head 
- I'll use this opportunity to do so :-)

As for the no-function JS and the title, they were just in there for demo 
purposes ;-)

cheers,

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RE: [WSG] transitional, accessible popups?

2004-03-18 Thread Gyrus
At 16:55 18/03/2004 +, you wrote:
Change

onclick="window.open('index.cfm?id=23',

to

onclick="window.open(this.href,
Excellent!

thanks,

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RE: [WSG] transitional, accessible popups?

2004-03-18 Thread P.H.Lauke
> From: Manuel González Noriega [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[snip]
> You should consider however making it a little
> less mouse-centric by adding a onkeypress event that does 
> just the same
> than onclick. 

actually, this goes back to a discussion I'm trying to have
over on the W3C WAI IG list...and, as usual, still can't get a
straight answer out of them. The main point is: onclick is
actually activated by the keyboard as well (just try it and
you'll see). Now, in my testing, this holds true for pretty much
all modern browsers - haven't done any extensive testing with
older ones. Speaking to a guy from the W3C, I got the impression
that the official line is that onclick is actually a misnomer
for what should effectively be onactivation. onkeypress is just
as device-centric, and can pose problems as ANY key pressed will
activate that handler.

So, for all intents and purposes, onclick should NOT be considered
to be mouse centric, in the way that say onmouseover/onmouseout are.
Pretend that it's actually called onactivation. There's no issue
here...

For the rest of the argument, see
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ig/2004JanMar/0512.html

Patrick

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Re: [WSG] transitional, accessible popups?

2004-03-18 Thread Manuel González Noriega
El jue, 18-03-2004 a las 17:30, Gyrus escribió:
> Hi,
> 
> Working on a client site, I just came up with some code for doing popups 
> that I thought I'd share for comments here.
> 
> 
> I just wondered if anyone could spot any faults; or, more generally, how 
> you're dealing with popups in terms of standards and accessibility.

It's quite fine, IMO. You should consider however making it a little
less mouse-centric by adding a onkeypress event that does just the same
than onclick. That would ask then for abstracting the code to a funcion
and maybe rewording the title of the link

Sorry about the nit-picking :-)


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RE: [WSG] transitional, accessible popups?

2004-03-18 Thread P.H.Lauke
Change 

onclick="window.open('index.cfm?id=23',

to

onclick="window.open(this.href,

This way, if you change your link's href,
you don't have to remember to change it in the 
javascript as well.

Also...while we're on sitepoint, you could
just look at Ian Lloyd's "perfect pop-up"
article http://www.sitepoint.com/article/perfect-pop-up

Patrick

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