Re: [WSG] will Eric Meyer?s CSS SCULPTOR put me out of job?

2007-08-28 Thread Terrence Wood


Tee G. Peng:
what you do guys think of [CSS Sculptor]... PVll CSS layout Magic,  
and the Google Blueprint?


Using pencil and paper to write won't make you a great novelist.  
Using better tools, like a computer, to write still won't make you a  
great novelist.


Same deal with ready made libraries - they won't replace great  
craftmanship, and in most circumstances you need to understand the  
craft to make the most of them anyway.


Personally, I have used code snippets (from single lines, to complete  
generic layouts) for as long as I can remember - it just makes sense.


For the record blueprint is not a google product, it's just hosted   
at google code.


kind regards,
Terrence Wood.





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RE: [WSG] will Eric Meyers CSS SCULPTOR put me out of job?

2007-08-27 Thread Paul Minty
Tee,

My understanding is that the tools being rolled out now are intended to
streamline the production of basic layouts. We've used the Yahoo UI
library to do that for a while; simple to be competitive on pricing. I
know the bigger studios spend a lot of time developing pixel-perfect
designs, usually on an elastic layout. We don't often attract the
projects and budgets that would justify that level of quality.

There has been a couple of years where quite basic page layouts have
needed a lot of hours from experienced CSS developers to produce - I
reckon those years are over and advanced CSS skills won't be used as
often in smaller production teams. There will continue to be a place for
highly skilled and experienced front-end developers in the bigger
studios. This is a shift in the economics of website production; so
yeah, have another think about career path.

Remember, these days any designer can create a complex PDF file that can
printed straight away - no need for the old technical skills to do
colour separations and prepare printing plates! Complex and repetitive
work will always be under pressure from engineering solutions.
Fashionable design will always be under pressure from younger and cooler
designers. I'm gonna get shares in Adobe and RMIT!

Cheers
Paul


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Subject: [WSG] will Eric Meyers CSS SCULPTOR put me out of job?

Please don't be misguided by the subject :)

http://www.webassist.com/professional/products/productdetails.asp? 
PID=135RID=930

I am just curious, what you do guys think of the dreamweaver extension
like this one and the PVll CSS layout Magic, and the Google Blueprint ?
Can they take over the carefully crafted CSS and structural markup you
deliver to your clients? There first one even take care of IE browsers.

I notice fewer people ask me to do CSS and XHTML templates lately :)

tee





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