RE: Politically Correct Terminology (was RE: [WSG] New front page for http://abc.net.au/)

2005-08-05 Thread Christopher M Kelly
As a Person with a Disability, I prefer Person/User/Whatever with a
Disability.  People First Language.

Although, I tend to refer to myself as a gimp, but that's really
something used within some parts of the wheelchair culture.  Wouldn't
recommend you use it. :)

Christopher M. Kelly, Sr. (GM22)
State Farm Insurance Companies - disAbility Support
website: http://intranet.opr.statefarm.org/sysdisab/
phone: 309-763-7069
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Web] Access is not about adding wheelchair ramps to existing pages.
It's about getting your page right in the first place. This medium was
designed to be accessible. If your work isn't accessible, you're doing
it wrong... - Owen Briggs, Web and CSS guru,
http://www.thenoodleincident.com


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Hi John,

Thanks for the resources - really interesting (and I don't think you're
being contrary). 

Nikki

Maxima Consult -- Web Access, Web Sales, Web Profit
 
Providers of internet marketing services and accessible ebusiness
solutions.
 
Nicola Rae
Maxima Consult
www.webaccessforeveryone.co.uk
0044 (0)1273 476709

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Subject: Politically Correct Terminology (was RE: [WSG] New front page
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http://abc.net.au/)

Nicola Rae wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Just to chip in, I am writing a couple of articles for GAWDS (guild of

 Accessible Web Designers) and have it on authority from them that the 
 correct terms to use are:
 
 In the UK - instead of 'users with disabilities' - it should be 
 'disabled users'.
 
 In the UK - instead of 'physical disabilities'  - it should be 
 'physical impairment'.
 
 As I also thought it was users with disabilities.
 
 Nikki
 


For What it's Worth Dept

About 3 years ago, I received permission to mirror the following Words
With Dignity (http://wats.ca/resources/wordswithdignity/35), created by
the Active Living Alliance, a NGO here in Canada
(http://www.ala.ca/content/home.asp).  

So, not to be contrary to Nikki, it seems that it may also be a cultural
thing, as the ALA suggest Person(s) with a disability.  Perhaps their
final advice is most relevant: Remember, appropriate terminology
changes with the times. If in doubt, ask. Most people with a disability
will be more than willing to help you.

HTH

JF
--
John Foliot  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web Accessibility Specialist / Co-founder of WATS.ca
Web Accessibility Testing and Services
http://www.wats.ca   
Phone: 1-613-482-7053 



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RE: Politically Correct Terminology (was RE: [WSG] New front page for http://abc.net.au/)

2005-08-05 Thread Vicki Berry
Christopher M Kelly wrote:
 As a Person with a Disability, I prefer Person/User/Whatever with a
 Disability.  People First Language.

I think if anything has come out of this, it's that on this list no one 
is going to be right when talking generally, because what's right for 
one person/culture is not right for the next. 

So I'm sure we will all be tolerant when someone says something that's 
not politically correct in our own culture, but might be in theirs.
 
But when working on the web, we need to find out what is appropriate 
for the intended audience and then use it. Perhaps on an international 
or multicultural site, an explanation of why certain terminology was 
used might be appropriate given the strong objections some sectors can 
evidently have about what they are called.

-- 
Vicki Berry
DistinctiveWeb
http://www.distinctiveweb.com.au
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RE: Politically Correct Terminology (was RE: [WSG] New front page for http://abc.net.au/)

2005-08-04 Thread Nicola Rae
Hi John,

Thanks for the resources - really interesting (and I don't think you're
being contrary). 

Nikki

Maxima Consult -- Web Access, Web Sales, Web Profit
 
Providers of internet marketing services and accessible ebusiness solutions.
 
Nicola Rae
Maxima Consult
www.webaccessforeveryone.co.uk
0044 (0)1273 476709

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of John Foliot - WATS.ca
Sent: 04 August 2005 13:15
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Politically Correct Terminology (was RE: [WSG] New front page for
http://abc.net.au/)

Nicola Rae wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Just to chip in, I am writing a couple of articles for GAWDS (guild of
 Accessible Web Designers) and have it on authority from them that the
 correct terms to use are:
 
 In the UK - instead of 'users with disabilities' - it should be
 'disabled users'.
 
 In the UK - instead of 'physical disabilities'  - it should be
 'physical impairment'.
 
 As I also thought it was users with disabilities.
 
 Nikki
 


For What it's Worth Dept

About 3 years ago, I received permission to mirror the following Words
With Dignity (http://wats.ca/resources/wordswithdignity/35), created by
the Active Living Alliance, a NGO here in Canada
(http://www.ala.ca/content/home.asp).  

So, not to be contrary to Nikki, it seems that it may also be a cultural
thing, as the ALA suggest Person(s) with a disability.  Perhaps their
final advice is most relevant: Remember, appropriate terminology
changes with the times. If in doubt, ask. Most people with a disability
will be more than willing to help you.

HTH

JF
--
John Foliot  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web Accessibility Specialist / Co-founder of WATS.ca
Web Accessibility Testing and Services
http://www.wats.ca   
Phone: 1-613-482-7053 



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