RE: Politically Correct Terminology (was RE: [WSG] New front page for http://abc.net.au/)
As a Person with a Disability, I prefer Person/User/Whatever with a Disability. People First Language. Although, I tend to refer to myself as a gimp, but that's really something used within some parts of the wheelchair culture. Wouldn't recommend you use it. :) Christopher M. Kelly, Sr. (GM22) State Farm Insurance Companies - disAbility Support website: http://intranet.opr.statefarm.org/sysdisab/ phone: 309-763-7069 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Web] Access is not about adding wheelchair ramps to existing pages. It's about getting your page right in the first place. This medium was designed to be accessible. If your work isn't accessible, you're doing it wrong... - Owen Briggs, Web and CSS guru, http://www.thenoodleincident.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 9:54 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: Politically Correct Terminology (was RE: [WSG] New front page for http://abc.net.au/) Hi John, Thanks for the resources - really interesting (and I don't think you're being contrary). Nikki Maxima Consult -- Web Access, Web Sales, Web Profit Providers of internet marketing services and accessible ebusiness solutions. Nicola Rae Maxima Consult www.webaccessforeveryone.co.uk 0044 (0)1273 476709 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Foliot - WATS.ca Sent: 04 August 2005 13:15 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Politically Correct Terminology (was RE: [WSG] New front page for http://abc.net.au/) Nicola Rae wrote: Hi, Just to chip in, I am writing a couple of articles for GAWDS (guild of Accessible Web Designers) and have it on authority from them that the correct terms to use are: In the UK - instead of 'users with disabilities' - it should be 'disabled users'. In the UK - instead of 'physical disabilities' - it should be 'physical impairment'. As I also thought it was users with disabilities. Nikki For What it's Worth Dept About 3 years ago, I received permission to mirror the following Words With Dignity (http://wats.ca/resources/wordswithdignity/35), created by the Active Living Alliance, a NGO here in Canada (http://www.ala.ca/content/home.asp). So, not to be contrary to Nikki, it seems that it may also be a cultural thing, as the ALA suggest Person(s) with a disability. Perhaps their final advice is most relevant: Remember, appropriate terminology changes with the times. If in doubt, ask. Most people with a disability will be more than willing to help you. HTH JF -- John Foliot [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Accessibility Specialist / Co-founder of WATS.ca Web Accessibility Testing and Services http://www.wats.ca Phone: 1-613-482-7053 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: Politically Correct Terminology (was RE: [WSG] New front page for http://abc.net.au/)
Christopher M Kelly wrote: As a Person with a Disability, I prefer Person/User/Whatever with a Disability. People First Language. I think if anything has come out of this, it's that on this list no one is going to be right when talking generally, because what's right for one person/culture is not right for the next. So I'm sure we will all be tolerant when someone says something that's not politically correct in our own culture, but might be in theirs. But when working on the web, we need to find out what is appropriate for the intended audience and then use it. Perhaps on an international or multicultural site, an explanation of why certain terminology was used might be appropriate given the strong objections some sectors can evidently have about what they are called. -- Vicki Berry DistinctiveWeb http://www.distinctiveweb.com.au ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: Politically Correct Terminology (was RE: [WSG] New front page for http://abc.net.au/)
Hi John, Thanks for the resources - really interesting (and I don't think you're being contrary). Nikki Maxima Consult -- Web Access, Web Sales, Web Profit Providers of internet marketing services and accessible ebusiness solutions. Nicola Rae Maxima Consult www.webaccessforeveryone.co.uk 0044 (0)1273 476709 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Foliot - WATS.ca Sent: 04 August 2005 13:15 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Politically Correct Terminology (was RE: [WSG] New front page for http://abc.net.au/) Nicola Rae wrote: Hi, Just to chip in, I am writing a couple of articles for GAWDS (guild of Accessible Web Designers) and have it on authority from them that the correct terms to use are: In the UK - instead of 'users with disabilities' - it should be 'disabled users'. In the UK - instead of 'physical disabilities' - it should be 'physical impairment'. As I also thought it was users with disabilities. Nikki For What it's Worth Dept About 3 years ago, I received permission to mirror the following Words With Dignity (http://wats.ca/resources/wordswithdignity/35), created by the Active Living Alliance, a NGO here in Canada (http://www.ala.ca/content/home.asp). So, not to be contrary to Nikki, it seems that it may also be a cultural thing, as the ALA suggest Person(s) with a disability. Perhaps their final advice is most relevant: Remember, appropriate terminology changes with the times. If in doubt, ask. Most people with a disability will be more than willing to help you. HTH JF -- John Foliot [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Accessibility Specialist / Co-founder of WATS.ca Web Accessibility Testing and Services http://www.wats.ca Phone: 1-613-482-7053 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **