Re: Re[2]: [WSG] CSS and Flash
Good test page! In fact it pointed up the fact that on a Mac, Opera will show your WMV file, ...but Safari won't. Can anyone shine a little light on that? (Sorry, that Q is off tropic, ...so what is SOP on this list?) -chuck === On Feb 24, 2006, at 3:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.designbyatfb.com/test/swftest2.html Don't wuite understand what you are asking, but lol, asked several questions recently myself about valid swf files and why one worked in IE and not in FF. Here is my test page with several examples. - Original Message - From: Martin Heiden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sean Jones wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 2:34 PM Subject: Re[2]: [WSG] CSS and Flash Sean, Friday, February 24, 2006, 8:08:57 PM, you wrote: SJ scroll down to the section on embed multimedia, it has info on how to embed SJ flash using CSS. I really doubt that it is possible to embed flash by CSS. All these methods use the (X)HTML object tag. And this is mandatory to embed flash or other multimedia content into HTML pages. (Ok, you could also use the non standard embed tag for Netscape and Co., but there is really no need to do so.) Coming back to Mark's question, my answer is no, you can't use CSS for your needs. The best thing you can do is using the UFO method that Jesse already proposed, if you want to manage all your pages from one single maintenance point. (There are other options like CMS, add your favourite server side programming language her, or simple Dreamweaver templates to do so.) If you don't want to use JavaScript for that, you can use conditional comments for showing/hiding the right/wrong object attributes to the specific browsers: !--[if IE] object classid=clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-44455354 ![endif]--!--[if !IE]x-- object data=/flash/homepage.swf type=application/x-shockwave-flash !--![endif]-- param name=movie value=/flash/homepage.swf / param name=quality value=high / param name=wmode value=transparent / !-- Alternate Content goes here -- img src=/img/flash/homepage.jpg alt= / /object This will validate, but it uses IE proprietary conditional comments. IMHO it is a valid and safe method, but there are other opinions about that. I hope, I could help you. Martin. PS: If anyone want to try to convince me, that it is possible to embed flash by using CSS, I'm very interested in that solution. But I can't imagine that. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.12/267 - Release Date: 2/22/2006 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: Re[2]: [WSG] CSS and Flash
http://www.designbyatfb.com/test/swftest2.html Don't wuite understand what you are asking, but lol, asked several questions recently myself about valid swf files and why one worked in IE and not in FF. Here is my test page with several examples. - Original Message - From: Martin Heiden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sean Jones wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 2:34 PM Subject: Re[2]: [WSG] CSS and Flash Sean, Friday, February 24, 2006, 8:08:57 PM, you wrote: SJ scroll down to the section on embed multimedia, it has info on how to embed SJ flash using CSS. I really doubt that it is possible to embed flash by CSS. All these methods use the (X)HTML object tag. And this is mandatory to embed flash or other multimedia content into HTML pages. (Ok, you could also use the non standard embed tag for Netscape and Co., but there is really no need to do so.) Coming back to Mark's question, my answer is no, you can't use CSS for your needs. The best thing you can do is using the UFO method that Jesse already proposed, if you want to manage all your pages from one single maintenance point. (There are other options like CMS, add your favourite server side programming language her, or simple Dreamweaver templates to do so.) If you don't want to use JavaScript for that, you can use conditional comments for showing/hiding the right/wrong object attributes to the specific browsers: !--[if IE] object classid=clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-44455354 ![endif]--!--[if !IE]x-- object data=/flash/homepage.swf type=application/x-shockwave-flash !--![endif]-- param name=movie value=/flash/homepage.swf / param name=quality value=high / param name=wmode value=transparent / !-- Alternate Content goes here -- img src=/img/flash/homepage.jpg alt= / /object This will validate, but it uses IE proprietary conditional comments. IMHO it is a valid and safe method, but there are other opinions about that. I hope, I could help you. Martin. PS: If anyone want to try to convince me, that it is possible to embed flash by using CSS, I'm very interested in that solution. But I can't imagine that. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.12/267 - Release Date: 2/22/2006 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: Re[2]: [WSG] CSS and Flash
I like your test page. I find it quite useful. I've bookmarked it to share it with some friends. Eileen Russell http://www.bytedreams.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 4:05 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: Re[2]: [WSG] CSS and Flash http://www.designbyatfb.com/test/swftest2.html Don't wuite understand what you are asking, but lol, asked several questions recently myself about valid swf files and why one worked in IE and not in FF. Here is my test page with several examples. - Original Message - From: Martin Heiden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sean Jones wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 2:34 PM Subject: Re[2]: [WSG] CSS and Flash Sean, Friday, February 24, 2006, 8:08:57 PM, you wrote: SJ scroll down to the section on embed multimedia, it has info on how to embed SJ flash using CSS. I really doubt that it is possible to embed flash by CSS. All these methods use the (X)HTML object tag. And this is mandatory to embed flash or other multimedia content into HTML pages. (Ok, you could also use the non standard embed tag for Netscape and Co., but there is really no need to do so.) Coming back to Mark's question, my answer is no, you can't use CSS for your needs. The best thing you can do is using the UFO method that Jesse already proposed, if you want to manage all your pages from one single maintenance point. (There are other options like CMS, add your favourite server side programming language her, or simple Dreamweaver templates to do so.) If you don't want to use JavaScript for that, you can use conditional comments for showing/hiding the right/wrong object attributes to the specific browsers: !--[if IE] object classid=clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-44455354 ![endif]--!--[if !IE]x-- object data=/flash/homepage.swf type=application/x-shockwave-flash !--![endif]-- param name=movie value=/flash/homepage.swf / param name=quality value=high / param name=wmode value=transparent / !-- Alternate Content goes here -- img src=/img/flash/homepage.jpg alt= / /object This will validate, but it uses IE proprietary conditional comments. IMHO it is a valid and safe method, but there are other opinions about that. I hope, I could help you. Martin. PS: If anyone want to try to convince me, that it is possible to embed flash by using CSS, I'm very interested in that solution. But I can't imagine that. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.12/267 - Release Date: 2/22/2006 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:;bytedreams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) FN:bytedreams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] REV:20050718T045116Z END:VCARD
