Oi, I heard that.
:-p
Hill, Tim wrote:
Yeah who's that Andy Budd guy anyway? *duck*
Andy Budd
http://www.message.uk.com/
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Jaime W wrote:
Does anyone
know if there are any resources to accessible
news scroller/ticker not written in _javascript_? I have been looking all
over
for one that is not done in _javascript_ and it seems that JS and Flash
are the
common news scroller around.
Have you tried
Hi
I was just testing http://www.bhatt.id.au/test.php on the standalone
windows versions of Internet explorer that you can get from
http://www.quirksmode.org/browsers/multipleie.html , all worked fine
except IE4 which froze immediately after displaying the page and took up
100% of cpu time
http://www.danvine.com/iecapture/
does this help?
Camz
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From: Neerav [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WSG [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 10:06 PM
Subject: [WSG] Page causes win IE4 to crash
Hi
I was just testing http://www.bhatt.id.au/test.php on the
Thanks
I forgot about that. I will give it a go, hopefully it doesnt crash his
PC :-)
t94xr.net.nz webmaster wrote:
http://www.danvine.com/iecapture/
does this help?
Camz
- Original Message -
From: Neerav [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WSG [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 10:06
Oh dear ... now his IEcapture page isnt responding for newly entered
pages to test ... hope I didnt do anything to it.
t94xr.net.nz webmaster wrote:
http://www.danvine.com/iecapture/
does this help?
Camz
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From: Neerav [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WSG [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OK Ive narrowed down the code which makes IE4 crash to the 2nd box
floated on the right hand side (currently commented out from line 221 -
line 235) of http://www.bhatt.id.au/test.php
Basically the 2nd lower box sample article is formatted the same way
as the sample site box above it, however
:O lmfao
email the guy apologising just incase! :D!!
Hes pretty sweet...
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From: Neerav [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 10:46 PM
Subject: Re: [WSG] Page causes win IE4 to crash
Oh dear ... now his IEcapture page isnt responding
From: Mordechai Peller
What ever you do you'll still have problems with accessibility.
Scrolling text will always be a problem with epilepsy, visually
impaired, and motor impaired (clicking a moving target).
Exactly. It struck me as interesting that the original poster wants
to avoid JS
Hello.
http://alegeri-locale.stockappletsocale-2004.html
http://alegeri-locale.stockapplets.com/2/alegeri-locale-2004.html
We are having a SEO Contest.
I am the only one who cares about Standards and Tableless design an I
want to show the other guys the real power of standards.
Problem is
It recovered within a min or two. no point emailing him, he probably
gets flooded with mail and wont read it.
meanwhile back to the problem at hand any ideas ?
--
Neerav Bhatt
http://www.bhatt.id.au
Web Development IT consultancy
Mobile: +61 403 8000 27
t94xr.net.nz webmaster wrote:
:O
Erm im not 100% sure but if you just stick it in a external .js page and doe the
normal Script inclusion wouldnt that get around the nasty JavaScript and let it
validate?
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Title: Message
G'dayA couple of hints...1. Close the meta
tags: meta
name="description" content=""
/ meta name="keywords"
content="." /2. Escape the forward-slashes (/) in the counter
script: "img src=""
I never even checked his actual code :E assumed he knew what he was doing, just
didnt know what to do with the JavaScript...
On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 19:35 , Bert Doorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:
Message
G'day
A couple of hints...
1. Close the meta
tags:
meta
name=description
Check this:
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://alegeri-locale.stockapplets.com/2/alegeri-locale-2004.html
Any other ideas?
Bert Doorn wrote:
G'day
A couple of hints...
1. Close the meta tags:
meta name=description content= /
meta name=keywords content=. /
2. Escape the
Title: Message
G'day again Check this: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://alegeri-locale.stockapplets.com/2/alegeri-locale-2004.html Any other ideas?Yep. As the validator says:
a href=""http://cqcounter.com/?_id=razvan_lo=ro">http://cqcounter.com/?_id=razvan_lo=ro"The
mentioned
Thank you Bert!
It Worked.
Bert Doorn wrote:
G'day again
Check this:
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://alegeri-locale.stockapplets.com/2/
alegeri-locale-2004.html
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://alegeri-locale.stockapplets.com/2/a
legeri-locale-2004.html
Any other ideas?
The most accessible way of doing this sort of thing is to have
something that does not scroll/animate/change by default. The user should
enable the scrolling/etc by hand first. And it should obviously still work
without javascript and/or flash (or, if you use flash, again have the
default
state
I have a weird problem with IE. It's not showing the padding for images.
Works fine in Opera and Firefox.
URL: http://alegeri-locale.stockappletsocale-2004.html
http://alegeri-locale.stockapplets.com/2/alegeri-locale-2004.html
CSS
img.cadru {
padding: 10px;
border: 1px solid red;
Andreas Boehmer wrote:
Hi guys,
I was wondering whether you could give me some feedback on a website we have
created: http://www.jet.org.au.
We have tried to make it as accessible as possible, but better than any
Bobby or W3C validation is probably going through your critique. We are
Neerav wrote:
OK Ive narrowed down the code which makes IE4 crash to the 2nd box
floated on the right hand side (currently commented out from line 221 -
line 235) of http://www.bhatt.id.au/test.php
Basically the 2nd lower box sample article is formatted the same way
as the sample site box
Andreas Boehmer wrote: Hi guys,I was wondering whether you could
give me some feedback on a website we havecreated: http://www.jet.org.au.We have tried to make it as
accessible as possible, but better than anyBobby or W3C validation is
probably going through your critique. We
All appears fine in IE6/Win.
Andy.
I have a weird problem with IE. It's not showing the padding for images.
Works fine in Opera and Firefox.
URL: http://alegeri-locale.stockappletsocale-2004.html
http://alegeri-locale.stockapplets.com/2/alegeri-locale-2004.html
CSS
img.cadru {
It's fixed now. XHTML 1.0 Strict doesn't not work with padding for
images in IE.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All appears fine in IE6/Win.
Andy.
I have a weird problem with IE. It's not showing the padding for images.
Works fine in Opera and Firefox.
URL:
Great
comments Mordechai
It's
easy to miss some of these elements, such as title tags. I like using the
web development bar by Chris Pederick
http://www.chrispederick.com/work/firefox/webdeveloper/in
Mozilla. I use the outline links without titles, images without alt,
titles, etc
Hi, im trying to manipulate the suckerfish dropdown too act like
macromedia's flash dropdown.
It works fine in both IE and firefox but with one exception. When you hover
in IE, as soon as you hover off the first level list item, the second level
will vanish. Now i've tried a lot of coding to
Hi, im trying to manipulate the macromedia dropdown withoiut the flash.
It works fine in Firefox, but in IE if you hover off the first level list
item , the second level vashishes, i need it to sit like it does in firefox.
Maybe it's the javascript, or someting else, but if you want to take a
I wrecked my CSS somehow... : (
http://www.bcrich.com/2004/test/guitars.asp
http://www.bcrich.com/2004/test/css/sub.css
http://www.bcrich.com/2004/test/css/menu.css
and have spent the last 3 hours getting absolutely nowhere.
Jeff
Thanks!
Jeff
http://www.patandjeff.com
Here's an interesting article on the implications for a web development shop
on using web standards for development rather than the antique table-based
methods we all used to use. This author compares the time taken to develop
a site then and now, after changing to using standards.
If this
Jeff, I had a quick look and...
#content_bcrich is too wide. Reducing it to 570px stops the content from
wrapping under the LHS column. Although, you may want to reduce the
padding-left and add a little more to its width as the margin seems a bit
large for your design.
Add clear : both; to your
If this doesn't convince a web professional to take a serious look at
these
standards nothing will.
and MACCAWS ( www.MACCAWS.org ) doesnt do this?
Camz
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Hi
Fixed when added background:#fff; to
#topnav li ul,#topnav li.over ul{position:absolute;display:none;}
Rule
Something to do with lack of size without the background
Fixes in both ie6 and firefox
Rgrds
Martin
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t94xr.net.nz webmaster wrote:
If this doesn't convince a web professional to take a serious look at
these
standards nothing will.
and MACCAWS ( www.MACCAWS.org ) doesnt do this?
Not the same way. maccaws' argument is an intellectual argument, while
I don't know I've never read it. You go to Maccaws.org and you have to go
off to another link to read anything useful. Like the old days of the
portals. No one had any content, only links to more sites that are
themselves just pages of more links.
I can't be bothered going from link to
I found it quite a good read...
- Original Message -
From:
Mordechai
Peller
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 1:04
PM
Subject: Re: [WSG] At last - here are the
dollars in web standards.
t94xr.net.nz webmaster wrote:
If this doesn't
Neerav
I think you have to look at a bigger issue here... is the time spent on
getting a page to work in IE4 actually worth the effort? Users of IE4
have an upgrade path to a better browser - the time spent assisting
these users to follow an upgrade path is more worthwhile than attempting
to
I've since taken a quick look at macaws.org and at a cursory speed-scan
there doesn't seem to be anything in that article called What Every Web
Site Owner Should Know About Standards: A Web Standards Primer at
http://www.maccaws.org/kit/primer/ that has anything about the business
reasons for a
their site is what you call a white paper its like a government report but
on the net.
Governments around the world have read it. Its fairly simple ot navigate.
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From: Michael Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 1:20 PM
Subject:
Thanks Martin, i really have to take my hat off to you.
and i have to say i really hate IE, but i wont start that fued again.
thanks again
From: Martin Baylis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [WSG] Suckerfish
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2004 12:56:04 +1200
Hi
Hi, new to the list but I couldn't resist this one as I have seen this first
hand...
The fact it takes less time and saves the client money could be the reason
many designers don't want to leave tables behind. Think about the money a
shop would lose? They would have to get more clients and
Title: Message
G'day
I
have,for a number of years, used and recommended a particular
shopping cart (not going to advertise it here)
Unfortunately, as
with many such programs, the output it generates is laced with deprecated tags
and attributes, nested tables and element nesting errors
Hi,
I've been engaged to produce some standards compliant xhtml templates
for a largish website for a legal firm.
The programming and backend is being handled by another company - at
the clients request they are using the 'Lotus Workplace Web Content
Management' system (nee Aptrix) which is
Jesse you are obviously not a business owner or a general manager. And if
you are, you're not thinking like a business owner.
If you can produce work far faster now than you could before, you can charge
less. But that's only one of your options. You charge less if you need a
competitive
Actually I was thinking like the consultant that tried to pull the
'standards cost more' argument with two non-profits I do volunteer work for.
The article you link to shows exactly what I have been saying for a long
time.. I think scarcasm was lost in my post. Moving to XHTML/CSS will save
me
You're right, the sarcasm was lost on me. My bad. Sorry.
Cheers
Mike Kear
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of J Rodgers
Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2004 1:12 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [WSG] At last - here are the dollars in web
With regard to the DOCTYPE, you could use a DOM script to re-write it,
if you like (I'd be wary though - you might end up with more in-valid
pages than not).
I would first start with whatever the CMS can output easily (least
work), if that's HTML 4.0 then go with that - as this is still a
Great idea, but i can't get it to work -
Have tried
window.document.childNodes[0].nodeValue = '!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC
-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1//EN \n
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/DTD/xhtml11.dtd;';
and similar in ie6, but the document stays in quirks mode.
Any ideas or working examples of a doctype
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Great idea, but i can't get it to work -
Have tried
window.document.childNodes[0].nodeValue = '!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC
-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1//EN \n
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/DTD/xhtml11.dtd;';
and similar in ie6, but the document stays in quirks mode.
Any
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