If it has poor usability its actually bad design, because design isn't
just visual style.
If visual style wins out over usability then its ALWAYS BAD DESIGN.
There is no way around it... Unless this is some highly specialized site
like a quirky flash game or something else that we are not
Ok i think some people have missed the point a bit, but its probably my
fault.
When i said design, i was referring to the hi-end graphical content. The
sites that are
there to amaze people and go 'how did they do that' which is they way alot
of people
seem to be heading due to convention.
A
Hi,
IMHO I would like to add one important factor to this. Money.
From my experience, regardless of how pretty, wow, etc., a client wants
their site to be, what they're really saying to you is that they need it to
produce a load of money for them. Keep that foremost in mind when design
On Aug 14, 2007, at 6:07 PM, Andrew Boyd wrote:
It is scary that people still make the distinction between “design”
and “usability/accessibility/fitness for purpose”.
Exactly! While “usability/accessibility/fitness for purpose” alone do
not define good design, good design *must* encompass
On Aug 14, 2007, at 6:14 PM, Philip Kiff wrote:
...you are not approaching the client-designer relationship in a way
that means the customer is always right. You are rather
approaching it
from a perspective that the customer does not know what is right...
The client is hiring you,
James Jeffery wrote:
When i said design, i was referring to the hi-end graphical content.
The sites that are there to amaze people and go 'how did they do
that' which is they way alot of people seem to be heading due to
convention.
That's the visual design part of a visual design. Much like
Frank Palinkas wrote:
IMHO I would like to add one important factor to this. Money.
I would like to throw a spanner in the works here. There are cases where
a client is as interested in PRESTIGE as he is in money. See, for
example:
However, if
you want see an example where prestige is also crucial, but the designer
has use compliant methods and passed 508 validation (at least) see:
http://www.fosterandpartners
.com/Practice/Default.aspx
I dont mean to pick on this website, but from looking at
James Jeffery wrote:
However, if
you want see an example where prestige is also crucial, but the designer
has use compliant methods and passed 508 validation (at least) see:
http://www.fosterandpartners
.com/Practice/Default.aspx
I dont mean to pick on this
Is it bothering anyone else out there that they've removed Imageready in
CS3? I've tried to use Fireworks and it just isn't the same...
Anyway, I found this petition online, quite short of signatures so far, but
I guess no-one is really putting it out there and it's only been up a month.
You're right .. Fireworks isn't the same .. thank goodness! Sorry .. I haven't
used ImageReady since version 1.0. It was horrible, IMO. FYI . Fireworks
isn't the replacement. Photoshop is. The important aspects of IR were ported
into Photoshop CS3.
Nancy Gill
Adobe Community Expert
Explain to them how much more money they can make...
Just how much can they make? Where's the proof? That's what they always ask
and that's what we can't answer. There are no plausible case studies to
support this. It's pure conjecture. Yes I do know about the Legal General
case study but so
The http://www.fosterandpartners.com is not a good example at all. I can see
at a glance that it violates at least three WCAG Priority 2 checkpoints, and
that's without even looking at the code. Some pages violate Priority 1
requirements too.
That's a shame because I really need stunning examples
Keryx Web skrev:
The Open Office version has a nice feature. The headings are fixed when
you scroll. One can't duplicate that in a table with CSS as far as I
know (position: fixed for table columns and rows...)
You are looking for thead/tbody HTML elements:
That's a shame because I really need stunning examples of accessible,
standards-compliant design to show our clients what is possible.
Is there nothing on Accessites.org that makes the grade?
--
Tyssen Design
www.tyssendesign.com.au
Ph: (07) 3300 3303
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I am one of Accessites' partners, so I am very familiar with the Showcase.
There are certainly some very good sites there, but in the 18 months or so
that the site has been live only 5 have achieved the Classic rating and none
has achieved the top rating of Timeless.
The 5 Classic sites are very
Andrew Maben wrote:
On Aug 14, 2007, at 6:14 PM, Philip Kiff wrote:
...you are not approaching the client-designer relationship in a way
that means the customer is always right. You are rather approaching it
from a perspective that the customer does not know what is right...
The client
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