[WSG] Article: "Vocalize Firefox" (text-to-speech extensions for Firefox)

2007-12-05 Thread Nick Lo
I'm wondering if anyone has tried/tested the following potentially useful extensions and if so what their opinion was/is: "Two recently released text-to-speech extensions can transform Firefox into a talking Web browser suitable for users with visual impairments -- and anyone else who can

Re: [WSG] Article: "Vocalize Firefox" (text-to-speech extensions for Firefox)

2007-12-05 Thread Steven Faulkner
Firevox also implemts much of WAI-ARIA, so it is useful for testing and demos of ARIA functionality. On 05/12/2007, Steve Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A year ago I started to evaluate FireVox 2.6 and had a dialog with Charles > Chen, its creator. At that time there is no way I would des

Re: [WSG] Article: "Vocalize Firefox" (text-to-speech extensions for Firefox)

2007-12-05 Thread Steven Faulkner
Firevox also implemts much of WAI-ARIA, so it is useful for testing and demos of ARIA functionality. On 05/12/2007, Steve Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A year ago I started to evaluate FireVox 2.6 and had a dialog with Charles > Chen, its creator. At that time there is no way I would desc

RE: [WSG] Article: "Vocalize Firefox" (text-to-speech extensions for Firefox)

2007-12-05 Thread Steve Green
A year ago I started to evaluate FireVox 2.6 and had a dialog with Charles Chen, its creator. At that time there is no way I would describe it as "full-fledged screen reader" as it had many shortcomings. I got the impression it was really just a hobby project, and Charles said he had pretty much a

RE: [WSG] Article: "Vocalize Firefox" (text-to-speech extensions for Firefox)

2007-12-05 Thread Steve Green
A year ago I started to evaluate FireVox 2.6 and had a dialog with Charles Chen, its creator. At that time there is no way I would describe it as "full-fledged screen reader" as it had many shortcomings. I got the impression it was really just a hobby project, and Charles said he had pretty much ab

Re: [WSG] Simple question on forms

2007-12-05 Thread Max A. Shpack
form elements have focus() method in javascript. plain html doesn't allow this. Cheers, Max. 2007/12/5, Minh D. Tran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi Everyone, > > I just have a question regarding forms. How do I set the cursor to default > on a certain form input field? > > Thanks, > M > > > > > _

Re: [WSG] Simple question on forms

2007-12-05 Thread Matthew Pennell
On 12/5/07, Minh D. Tran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I just have a question regarding forms. How do I set the cursor to default > on a certain form input field? Do you mean you want to automatically give focus to a particular form field when the page loads? You can simply call the .focus() met

[WSG] Default Cursor into Search box

2007-12-05 Thread marjori . blaske
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Re: [WSG] Simple question on forms

2007-12-05 Thread Charlesthomas Eaton
By default, forms fields take focus from the top-down and left to right. All you have to do, is line them up in the order you want them to have focus. -chuck = On Dec 5, 2007, at 9:47 AM, Minh D. Tran wrote: Hi Everyone, I just have a question regarding for

[WSG] Default Cursor into Search box

2007-12-05 Thread chris . block
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Re: [WSG] Simple question on forms

2007-12-05 Thread Michael Horowitz
tabindex determines the order in which people tab through a form. I would prefer this to using javascript because it avoids problems with browsers that don't recognize the javascript. http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/interact/forms.html#h-17.11 Michael Horowitz Your Computer Consultant http://yourc

[WSG] Default Cursor into Search box

2007-12-05 Thread marjori . blaske
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Re: [WSG] Simple question on forms

2007-12-05 Thread Alastair Campbell
Michael Horowitz wrote: > tabindex determines the order in which people tab through a form. The default tabindex simply follows the source order, as mentioned before. I would recommend not specifying the tabindex unless you are prepared to spend a lot of time doing everything, as it overrides th

Re: [WSG] Simple question on forms

2007-12-05 Thread Alastair Campbell
Michael Horowitz wrote: > tabindex determines the order in which people tab through a form. The default tabindex simply follows the source order, as mentioned before. I would recommend not specifying the tabindex unless you are prepared to spend a lot of time doing everything, as it overrides the

[WSG] Default Cursor into Search box

2007-12-05 Thread chris . block
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2007-12-05 Thread chris . block
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Re: [WSG] Simple question on forms

2007-12-05 Thread Michael Horowitz
tabindex determines the order in which people tab through a form. I would prefer this to using javascript because it avoids problems with browsers that don't recognize the javascript. http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/interact/forms.html#h-17.11 Michael Horowitz Your Computer Consultant http://you

RE: [WSG] Simple question on forms

2007-12-05 Thread James Leslie
That is not really true. Form fields take focus from the order they are in the code. They can be positioned anywhere on the screen using CSS. Without intervention they will follow this order regardless of top, bottom, left or right on the screen. 'Lining them up' would (hopefully) be done with C

[WSG] Default Cursor into Search box

2007-12-05 Thread Paul Hanson
Matthew, I don't have a field name. I only have one field on my HTML pages, which is the search box. This is my Form: | | How do I make the cursor default to the search box? Where would I put the document.getElementById('myfield').focus(); line in my HTML code? Can I add it to this code:

[WSG] Default Cursor into Search box

2007-12-05 Thread Paul Hanson
Matthew, I don't have a field name. I only have one field on my HTML pages, which is the search box. This is my Form: | | How do I make the cursor default to the search box? Where would I put the document.getElementById('myfield').focus(); line in my HTML code? Can I add it to this code:

[WSG] Simple question on forms

2007-12-05 Thread Minh D. Tran
Hi Everyone, I just have a question regarding forms. How do I set the cursor to default on a certain form input field? Thanks, M - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. *

RE: [WSG] Simple question on forms

2007-12-05 Thread James Leslie
That is not really true. Form fields take focus from the order they are in the code. They can be positioned anywhere on the screen using CSS. Without intervention they will follow this order regardless of top, bottom, left or right on the screen. 'Lining them up' would (hopefully) be done with CSS

[WSG] Default Cursor into Search box

2007-12-05 Thread chris . block
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2007-12-05 Thread lisa . kerrigan
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2007-12-05 Thread lisa . kerrigan
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Re: [WSG] Simple question on forms

2007-12-05 Thread Max A. Shpack
form elements have focus() method in javascript. plain html doesn't allow this. Cheers, Max. 2007/12/5, Minh D. Tran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi Everyone, > > I just have a question regarding forms. How do I set the cursor to default > on a certain form input field? > > Thanks, > M > > > > >

Re: [WSG] Simple question on forms

2007-12-05 Thread Matthew Pennell
On 12/5/07, Minh D. Tran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I just have a question regarding forms. How do I set the cursor to default > on a certain form input field? Do you mean you want to automatically give focus to a particular form field when the page loads? You can simply call the .focus() met

[WSG] Simple question on forms

2007-12-05 Thread Minh D. Tran
Hi Everyone, I just have a question regarding forms. How do I set the cursor to default on a certain form input field? Thanks, M - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. *

Re: [WSG] Article: "Vocalize Firefox" (text-to-speech extensions for Firefox)

2007-12-05 Thread Jixor - Stephen I
That said how would it compare for a developer that is making an effort to correctly mark up their html just to get an impression of how it would work for a screen reader user? Steve Green wrote: A year ago I started to evaluate FireVox 2.6 and had a dialog with Charles Chen, its creator. At t

Re: [WSG] Simple question on forms

2007-12-05 Thread Charlesthomas Eaton
By default, forms fields take focus from the top-down and left to right. All you have to do, is line them up in the order you want them to have focus. -chuck = On Dec 5, 2007, at 9:47 AM, Minh D. Tran wrote: Hi Everyone, I just have a question regarding forms

Re: [WSG] Article: "Vocalize Firefox" (text-to-speech extensions for Firefox)

2007-12-05 Thread Jixor - Stephen I
That said how would it compare for a developer that is making an effort to correctly mark up their html just to get an impression of how it would work for a screen reader user? Steve Green wrote: A year ago I started to evaluate FireVox 2.6 and had a dialog with Charles Chen, its creator. At

[WSG] Mail issues

2007-12-05 Thread russ - maxdesign
Hey all, As you know, we are experiencing some mail issues. The "read receipts" issue has been resolved and the offender removed from the WSG system. However, the double posts has not yet been resolved. It appears that the problem is not with the WSG mail server but being caused by someone who i

[WSG] Test

2007-12-05 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi, The duplicate posts are coming from a "Globe IT" server in the Netherlands. I have blocked the IP address 217.148.170.240 So we'll see if this message comes back... Please don't reply to this post. Peter Firminger *** List G

Re: [WSG] Article: "Vocalize Firefox" (text-to-speech extensions for Firefox)

2007-12-05 Thread Christian Snodgrass
I haven't tried them before but they sound very interesting. I'll have to give them a look. Nick Lo wrote: I'm wondering if anyone has tried/tested the following potentially useful extensions and if so what their opinion was/is: "Two recently released text-to-speech extensions can transform

RE: [WSG] Article: "Vocalize Firefox" (text-to-speech extensions for Firefox)

2007-12-05 Thread Steve Green
Whether or not FireVox is a valid tool for testing really depends on the content. If you've got a static site that's got all the appropriate semantic structure, then it's going to behave much like JAWS or any other screen reader. However, as you start to add complexity, the differences between the

[WSG] Default Cursor into Search box

2007-12-05 Thread Stijn Audooren
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2007-12-05 Thread Stijn Audooren
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2007-12-05 Thread Stijn Audooren
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