Re: [WSG] an accessible question: server-side vs client-side validation

Hi Tee, What John is saying is that AJAX is JavaScript yes, but it can also make calls to the server (using the XMLHttpRequest object) thus it validates using server-side technologies such as PHP. But what is misleading is that validation using AJAX can be disabled quite easily simply by

Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [WSG] an accessible question: server-side vs client-side validation

Why client-side *VS* server side? Why *versus*? They must work together. 1. We cannot dismiss server-side validation for security reasons. So, server-side validaion should stay. 2. Client-side script is usable. It checks the form before submission, saves user's time and improves user

Re: [WSG] hello

Kat wrote: Is Web 2.0 larger than the web itself? I don't know, but it's certainly *beyond* the web. Librarians around the world have been flapping their arms and gums about Library 2.0 for ages, which, imo, is even more ridiculous than Web 2.0. lib.

Re: [WSG] an accessible question: server-side vs client-side validation

Hi Matt, thank you very much! Your JS library looks very interesting and I certainly will play with it. I see that the radio group has not been implemented, is this something coming out soon? The web form has radio buttons with multi-selection options. Cheers, tee On Feb 12, 2008, at

Re: [WSG] hello

kevin mcmonagle wrote: yes its a buzzword mostly but from a design standpoint its also a genre. That's an interesting thought. Is Web 2.0 larger than the web itself? Has it become an art movement/period, in the same way as Modernism, Post-Modernism, Humanism, Impressionism, etc? Kat

RE: [WSG] an accessible question: server-side vs client-side validation

+1 on this. I am no l33t h4x0r (by any stretch of the imagination), but even I know I can easily circumvent client-side validation for nefarious purposes in at least the following ways: 1. save the form onto my drive, remove all js and submit the form to your server url with pretty much any

Re: [WSG] an accessible question: server-side vs client-side validation

It should be made clear that there really is no such thing as Client Side Validation. What we are talking about here is client side form assistance. The goal of validation is to make 100% sure that the data you are recieving is of the correct type, and contains no extraneous data or security

Re: [WSG] hello

yes its a buzzword mostly but from a design standpoint its also a genre. Thomas Thomassen wrote: Nothing. Web 2.0 is a buzzword. There's nothing truely new. It's often accociated with social networking. Sites where the users provide the content.

Re: [WSG] hello

Nothing. Web 2.0 is a buzzword. There's nothing truely new. It's often accociated with social networking. Sites where the users provide the content. - Original Message - From: Gitanjali To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [WSG]

[WSG] tableless forms !!!

Hi , Could anyone tell me which is the best way to build a form without tables in w3c standards. I would really appreciate if you can provide a good referral link. J Thanks a ton in advance.. Thanking you Naveen Bhaskar

Re: [WSG] tableless forms !!!

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi , Could anyone tell me which is the best way to build a form without tables in w3c standards. I would really appreciate if you can provide a good referral link. J Thanks a ton in advance.. Thanking you *Naveen Bhaskar * Please read the thread

Re: [WSG] tableless forms !!!

best to use are fieldsets and in the fieldsets you can either use p tags or lists (depending on what side you swing) On Feb 13, 2008 3:01 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi , Could anyone tell me which is the best way to build a form without tables in w3c standards. I would really

Re: [WSG] tableless forms !!!

Plenty of references here: http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2006/11/11/css-based-forms-modern-solutions/ On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:01:26 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi , Could anyone tell me which is the best way to build a form without tables in w3c standards. I would really appreciate

Re: [WSG] an accessible question: server-side vs client-side validation

Matt Fellows wrote: What John is saying is that AJAX is JavaScript yes, but it can also make calls to the server (using the XMLHttpRequest object) thus it validates using server-side technologies such as PHP. What you describe is what AJAX actually is; however, the term is often misused to

Re: [WSG] hello

Hello Gitanjali, Well, in my opinion, web 2.0 templates is more clean, spaced, balanced and don't use elements like borders and heavy background images. For instance, http://google.com, is the most web 2.0 that I know. @:D Another ones: http://del.icio.us/ http://furl.net/ http://digg.com/

Re: [WSG] an accessible question: server-side vs client-side validation

Hi Tee, It sure is, I have actually implemented it locally but a bit of testing is needed. It was more a test-of-prinicple kind of thing that actually turned out useful. So we don't move off topic however, I will reply to your email privately about the library instead of the WSG list. Cheers,

Re: [WSG] hello

Hello Dave, I supose you've said the right thing. The most important thing is to be closes as possible to web standards, accessibility and usability. For the visual, in my sight, there's only one rule to be followed: KISS: Keep It Simple Stupid. @:D Best Regards from hot as hell Brazil, Luiz

Re: [WSG] hello

Have a read of these for the official definitions or descriptions of web 2.0: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/oreilly/tim/news/2005/09/30/what-is-web-20.h tml http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_2 A good slide show on the topic: http://www.andybudd.com/presentations/dcontruct05/ Or, sit down with

Re: [WSG] hello

Hello aleagi Thank you very much.. On Feb 12, 2008 6:17 PM, aleagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Gitanjali, In general, there's no rule to design to web 2.0. There's a myth concerning that you have to use shades, a lot of spaces between elements, large font sizes, and stuff... But, in

Re: [WSG] hello

What is the difference between normal web template and web 2.0 templates??? On Feb 12, 2008 6:40 PM, Gitanjali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello aleagi Thank you very much.. On Feb 12, 2008 6:17 PM, aleagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Gitanjali, In general, there's no rule to design

Re: [WSG] hello

Hello Gitanjali, In general, there's no rule to design to web 2.0. There's a myth concerning that you have to use shades, a lot of spaces between elements, large font sizes, and stuff... But, in general, the design must be clean and balanced. If this can help:

Re: [WSG] hello

Actually i want to know wat is web 2.0, what is the difference between web designing and web 2.0, how to design a template using web 2.0 etc.. is it a software or an application?? should v download det software? if yes den from where? On Feb 12, 2008 5:50 PM, varun krishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [WSG] tableless forms !!!

Yes.. I got the solution... thanks guys... Regards Naveen bhaskar -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Faulds Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 12:13 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] tableless forms !!! Plenty of

Re: [WSG] hello

Hello aleagi! i want to know what is web 2.0 and how to do a template using web 2.0 On Feb 12, 2008 5:45 PM, aleagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Gitanjali, Help with what? Web 2.0 is a concept that has a lot of subjects to be discussed... What do you want to know about web 2.0? (If

Re: [WSG] hello

Hey Gitanjali, What help you want with Web 2.0 ? Are you a general web designer moving into Web2.0 Design ? regards, Varun Web Technologist http://varunkrish.com On Feb 12, 2008 5:37 PM, Gitanjali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all! Can anybody help me in web 2.0 please -- Regards.

Re: [WSG] hello

Hello Gitanjali, Help with what? Web 2.0 is a concept that has a lot of subjects to be discussed... What do you want to know about web 2.0? (If this exists at all). Regards, Luiz Gustavo Aleagi Nunes - Nosce te ipsum - http://sapiensdc.com.br

[WSG] hello

Hello all! Can anybody help me in web 2.0 please -- Regards. Gitanjali, Web Designer. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help:

Re: [WSG] Decorative bolding

if the intention is give emphasis to this word use em or if is to give stronger emphasis use strong 2008/2/12, Thomas Thomassen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The branding might change. I'm in favour of span with a class, like: span class=logo. - Original Message - From: Mike at

Re: [WSG] hello

Also, think about the important factors first when creating a website. Build something that satisfies the requirements, provides the function/content required, is accessible, usable and uses the latest web standards and if the site falls into the web2.0 category then so be it, if not then really

RE: [WSG] hello

Basically, there is no difference. Web 2 is basically just marketing-speak, loosely meaning The Currently Fashionable Thing Regards, Mike From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gitanjali Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 1:21 PM To: