RE: [WSG] The Problem of adjacent links

2008-05-09 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
The most common separator used in such circumstances ... is the vertical bar...whilst it is quite wordy That's the reason why I've started *not* to use it anymore. I'm using borders instead and add the class last to the last list element to apply no borders at all. Whilst a border is slightly

RE: [WSG] The Problem of adjacent links

2008-05-09 Thread Stuart Foulstone
The reason for putting the character there in the first place is explicitly to help screen-reader users distinguish between links. Screen-reader users have said that the vertical bar is THEIR preferred character (even though this means repeating vertical bar) since it is not used for anything

Re: [WSG] The Problem of adjacent links

2008-05-09 Thread Darren West
The reason for putting the character there in the first place is explicitly to help screen-reader users distinguish between links. It is my understanding that the fact that they are seperate links is what distinguishes between links ... Screen-reader users have said that the vertical bar is

RE: [WSG] The Problem of adjacent links

2008-05-09 Thread Steve Green
The rationale for this checkpoint seems to have been long forgotten, and I don't know of any user agent that has a problem with adjacent links. Nor does anyone else it seems, which is why the WCAG Samurai recommended that the checkpoint should be ignored. It certainly isn't a problem for any

RE: [WSG] The Problem of adjacent links

2008-05-09 Thread Darren Lovelock
The content:after pseudo class can be used to seperate the links with a vertical bar. It wont work in Internet Explorer but I believe it will still work with screen readers (although at this point in time I cannot find anything that confirms this). That said, it's far more logical to just

Re: [WSG] The Problem of adjacent links

2008-05-09 Thread Rob Kirton
Darren I'd be highly surprised if a screen reader manages to read CSS. Most struggle with HTML -- Regards - Rob Raising web standards : http://ele.vation.co.uk Linking in with others : http://linkedin.com/in/robkirton 2008/5/9 Darren Lovelock [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The content:after pseudo

Re: [WSG] Older Browsers

2008-05-09 Thread Rick Lecoat
On 8 May 2008, at 22:50, Michael Horowitz wrote: I don't think it is worth the time an effort to support old browsers like IE 5. Agreed. I go back as far as IE6 because last time I checked my site logs just over 44% of IE users were using that version (with just over 55% using v7). IE5

RE: [WSG] The Problem of adjacent links

2008-05-09 Thread Darren Lovelock
Yeah you're quite probably right. I just thought i'd read that somewhere recently. Must have been for something else! Cheers, Darren _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Kirton Sent: 09 May 2008 15:00 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG]

RE: [WSG] :: CSS Code Formatting ::

2008-05-09 Thread Thierry Koblentz
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Martin Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 10:13 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] :: CSS Code Formatting :: We use a very similar approach - php to deliver the css. This allows us

RE: [WSG] The Problem of adjacent links

2008-05-09 Thread Thierry Koblentz
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Kirton Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 7:00 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] The Problem of adjacent links Darren I'd be highly surprised if a screen reader manages to read CSS. Most struggle with HTML To

Re: [WSG] The Problem of adjacent links

2008-05-09 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Rob Kirton wrote: I'd be highly surprised if a screen reader manages to read CSS. Most struggle with HTML But the screen reader doesn't need to read the CSS, as the DOM already makes it quite clear where each link starts/stops, and screen readers can easily distinguish between them even

[WSG] alt text and titles for linked images

2008-05-09 Thread Rick Lecoat
Hi, I'm just finishing up a footer for a site need to include a couple of 'membership badges', y'know the kind of thing: a GIF denoting membership of a trade body, with the image linked to the body's website. This creates several attributes which could be seen either as complimentary or

Re: [WSG] alt text and titles for linked images

2008-05-09 Thread Krystian - Sunlust
Hi Rick, I would give title to the link as the name of the organisation, since the link leads there, and then the alt of the image as this company is a member of the organization, because that's the reason that you show this image and that's it's meaning. Regards, -- Krystian - Sunlust

Re: [WSG] alt text and titles for linked images

2008-05-09 Thread Rick Lecoat
On 9 May 2008, at 23:00, Krystian - Sunlust wrote: Hi Rick, I would give title to the link as the name of the organisation, since the link leads there, and then the alt of the image as this company is a member of the organization, because that's the reason that you show this image and that's

[WSG] is display:none inheritance

2008-05-09 Thread tee
I have a dropdown menu in unordered list, and I wanted it to shows only first and second level but display none starts from third level, yetI can't figure how to do it or it simply doesn't work. When I put the display none to second level: #nav li ul {display: none;} it works and all

Re: [WSG] Embed a flash file 100%

2008-05-09 Thread Rahul Gonsalves
On 10-May-08, at 6:29 AM, Laert Jansen wrote: well, I´d like to know what´s the right way to embed a flash file into the html without tables. The flash file is 100% width and height. Have you looked at SWFObject [1]? It has worked well for me in the past. Best, - Rahul. [1]