Re: [WSG] IE6 background image positioning problem

2008-05-15 Thread Matijs
Hmm... Wouldn't it be much easier to wrap the site in a wrapper, use a full with header div (instead of the tabel you're using now) and then float a navigation div and a content div underneath them? div id=wrapper div id=header !-- your header stuff goes here -- !-- header

Re: [WSG] IE6 background image positioning problem

2008-05-15 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Susie Gardner-Brown wrote: http://crunchie.tedi.uq.edu.au/trials/UCTLC/index6.html That big image on the right is a bg image in a container that has absolute positioning. It works fine in Firefox on my Mac, but IE6 it drops down. Can anyone see what I'm doing wrong? You're trying to

[WSG] Amanda Finnis is out of the office.

2008-05-15 Thread Amanda . Finnis
I will be out of the office starting 15/05/2008 and will not return until 21/05/2008. If you have an urgent enquiry please contact Peter Sculley on 9938 0516. Thanks. ** Department of Innovation, Industry and Regional

Re: [WSG] Background on body not aligning with tiled background on wrapper DIV

2008-05-15 Thread Adam Martin
can we see an example? Paul Collins wrote: Hi all, I've seen this problem before, but can't remember how I solved it. Basically, I have put a centred background that repeats vertically on the body of my page using CSS. The main wrapper div is also centred and has a background sits on top of

Re: [WSG] Background on body not aligning with tiled background on wrapper DIV

2008-05-15 Thread Paul Collins
Thanks for your reply Adam. I can't really put what's I have now due to copyright restrictions, or I would have. I was hoping someone had encountered this before and would know the answer. I'll have to try and set up a dummy page later today when I have more time. Thanks Paul 2008/5/15 Adam

[WSG] Background on body not aligning with tiled background on wrapper DIV

2008-05-15 Thread Paul Collins
Hi all, I've seen this problem before, but can't remember how I solved it. Basically, I have put a centred background that repeats vertically on the body of my page using CSS. The main wrapper div is also centred and has a background sits on top of the Body one, but is only a fixed height

[WSG] Footer problem!

2008-05-15 Thread james
Hi All, This is probably a real easy thing to do, how ever i cannot get it to stay in the same position through each page. I think it is something to do with the way i have coded the text on my page; Here is the link to the site http://www.jungle-systems.com/~mip/companyprofile.html

Re: [WSG] Footer problem!

2008-05-15 Thread Adam Martin
Are you worried about the text overlapping the footer? If so, try this: div#footer { background-color:#2D2D2D; border-top:1px solid #00; clear:both; height:100px; width:100%; } Cheers Adam - james wrote: Hi All, This is probably a real easy thing to do, how ever i

Re: [WSG] Footer problem!

2008-05-15 Thread nate hanna
You need to clear the float caused by id=footer and possibly place your footer div outside of id=main-content b/c once you clear the float the 266px padding you have on main-content will affect the footer. If you don't want to move the footer div take the padding off of main-content and put a

RE: [WSG] Footer problem!

2008-05-15 Thread Darren Lovelock
Also James you have used the same ID of 'footer' on the div and the paragraph. ID's should only be used once on a page. That will cause problems too. Darren Lovelock Munky Online Web Design http://www.munkyonline.co.uk T: +44 (0)20-8816-8893 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [WSG] Footer problem!

2008-05-15 Thread james
I just added that CSS, so i could see where the is was positioned, however i can see that it moves around on each page, i am not sure why it does this, it is supposed to be at the bottom of the page in the center fixed. Cheers Adam Martin wrote: Are you worried about the text overlapping

Re: [WSG] Footer problem!

2008-05-15 Thread Adam Martin
It is at the bottom of the content - which is why it is moving around :) james wrote: I just added that CSS, so i could see where the is was positioned, however i can see that it moves around on each page, i am not sure why it does this, it is supposed to be at the bottom of the page in the

Re: [WSG] Footer problem!

2008-05-15 Thread Adam Martin
http://blog.twenty08.com/2007/04/15/how-to-align-a-footer-to-the-bottom-of-the-page-in-xhtml-strict-across-all-three-browsers/ james wrote: I just added that CSS, so i could see where the is was positioned, however i can see that it moves around on each page, i am not sure why it does this,

Re: [WSG] Footer problem!

2008-05-15 Thread james
thanks will give it a try :) Adam Martin wrote: http://blog.twenty08.com/2007/04/15/how-to-align-a-footer-to-the-bottom-of-the-page-in-xhtml-strict-across-all-three-browsers/ james wrote: I just added that CSS, so i could see where the is was positioned, however i can see that it moves

Re: [WSG] Footer problem!

2008-05-15 Thread Rick Lecoat
On 15 May 2008, at 12:05, james wrote: This is probably a real easy thing to do, how ever i cannot get it to stay in the same position through each page. James, sorry if I'm missing something very obvious here but I think you need to be more specific about what you want the footer to be

Re: [WSG] Footer problem!

2008-05-15 Thread james
All fixed, cheers all i needed was clear:both; Thanks I just want the footer to be nicely placed in the center of the page below all the main content, however it seems to move about based on the page it is on, Rick Lecoat wrote: On 15 May 2008, at 12:05, james wrote: This is probably a

[WSG] Accessibility for HTML Email

2008-05-15 Thread Erickson, Kevin (DOE)
What is the most accessible method to have email links on web pages? *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [WSG] Accessibility for HTML Email

2008-05-15 Thread Michael Persson
Accessible or to keep them not readble from the search engines and SPAM?? Michael Erickson, Kevin (DOE) wrote: What is the most accessible method to have email links on web pages? *** List Guidelines:

Re: [WSG] Accessibility for HTML Email

2008-05-15 Thread David Dorward
On 15 May 2008, at 15:35, Erickson, Kevin (DOE) wrote: What is the most accessible method to have email links on web pages? Probably: (1) Clearly flag it as an email address (2) Link it (3) Provide the address in easily copy/paste-able format for webmail users So: pEmail Jon at a

Re: [WSG] Accessibility for HTML Email

2008-05-15 Thread Bruce
Agree here, I really have to dislike someone to put their email on a webpage in a readable format, there are scripts to hide it. Bruce bkdesign - Original Message - From: Michael Persson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 10:49 AM Subject:

Re: [WSG] Accessibility for HTML Email

2008-05-15 Thread Krystian - Sunlust
How about the ultimate combo of a voice file with the email spelled out + an image of the email + alt tag on this image ? A lot oh hustle but it can't be botted ( AFAIK ) and is ultra accessible. Regards, -- Krystian - Sunlust Freelance on the side: Sunlust Designs - http://sunlust.net Full

RE: [WSG] Accessibility for HTML Email

2008-05-15 Thread Erickson, Kevin (DOE)
I would think that having the email available in the sense of usability is optimal. Although spam is a big red flag for many. What are some scripts to hide a readable/printable email address? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Sent:

Re: [WSG] Accessibility for HTML Email

2008-05-15 Thread David Dorward
On 15 May 2008, at 16:13, Krystian - Sunlust wrote: How about the ultimate combo of a voice file with the email spelled out + an image of the email + alt tag on this image ? A lot oh hustle Transcribing an email address is more effect then a lot of people are willing to make. It's a good

[WSG] Conact Form!

2008-05-15 Thread james
Hi All; On my contact page i have used this code, however it comes back as not being valid XHTML 1.0 Transitional, am i missing something silly here? form label for=userName/label input type=text id=user value= /br / label for=companyCompany:/label input type=text id=company value= /br /

Re: [WSG] Accessibility for HTML Email

2008-05-15 Thread Krystian - Sunlust
Couldn't an alt tag be read by a braille browser thingie? Regards, -- Krystian - Sunlust Freelance on the side: Sunlust Designs - http://sunlust.net Full time Website Designer at SME System Solutions Ltd *** List Guidelines:

RE: [WSG] Conact Form!

2008-05-15 Thread Darren Lovelock
Theres no id on the textarea :) Darren Lovelock Munky Online Web Design http://www.munkyonline.co.uk T: +44 (0)20-8816-8893 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of james Sent: 15 May 2008 16:32 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG]

Re: [WSG] Conact Form!

2008-05-15 Thread Darren West
No action attribute on the form? 2008/5/15 james [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi All; On my contact page i have used this code, however it comes back as not being valid XHTML 1.0 Transitional, am i missing something silly here? form label for=userName/label input type=text id=user value= /br /

Re: [WSG] Accessibility for HTML Email

2008-05-15 Thread David Dorward
On 15 May 2008, at 16:32, Krystian - Sunlust wrote: Couldn't an alt tag be read by a braille browser thingie? A what? Do you mean attribute? There isn't much point in concealing the text of the email address in an image if you are going to include it as clear text in an alt attribute!

Re: [WSG] Accessibility for HTML Email

2008-05-15 Thread Krystian - Sunlust
Yes. Alt attribute. Damn, I thought that I came up with the best solutions ever for emails, you just shot me down ;-( Thanks for letting me know mate. Regards, -- Krystian - Sunlust Freelance on the side: Sunlust Designs - http://sunlust.net Full time Website Designer at SME System Solutions

Re: [WSG] Conact Form!

2008-05-15 Thread David Owens
You need a block level element inside the form element. A fieldset would work nicely. 2008/5/15 james [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi All; On my contact page i have used this code, however it comes back as not being valid XHTML 1.0 Transitional, am i missing something silly here? form label

Re: [WSG] Conact Form!

2008-05-15 Thread james
Fixed it now thanks David Owens wrote: You need a block level element inside the form element. A fieldset would work nicely. 2008/5/15 james [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi All; On my contact page i have used this code, however it comes back as not being

RE: [WSG] Accessibility for HTML Email

2008-05-15 Thread Erickson, Kevin (DOE)
I like the idea of a title tag being used i.e.- a href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title=e-mail address - [EMAIL PROTECTED]first name last name/a -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Krystian - Sunlust Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 11:33 AM To:

RE: [WSG] Accessibility for HTML Email

2008-05-15 Thread Erickson, Kevin (DOE)
I meant title attribute ;) -Original Message- From: Erickson, Kevin (DOE) Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 12:54 PM To: 'wsg@webstandardsgroup.org' Subject: RE: [WSG] Accessibility for HTML Email I like the idea of a title tag being used i.e.- a href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title=e-mail

Re: [WSG] Background on body not aligning with tiled background on wrapper DIV

2008-05-15 Thread Paul Collins
Hi all, I've managed to put a page together. If you look at the green area in Firefox and IE you will notice a small gap at the right of the green area in IE. If you try to resize the browser by dragging it, you will notice the gap keeps closing then appearing. It's to do with the odd and even

RE: [WSG] Accessibility for HTML Email

2008-05-15 Thread Erickson, Kevin (DOE)
How about JavaScript? I found this code at http://rickconner.net/spamweb/avoiding.html: div align=center p script type=text/javascript !-- // protected email script by Joe Maller // JavaScripts

[WSG] [OT] users - IT literate?

2008-05-15 Thread Designer
I have doing a site for someone for a few years now. He recently requested a few minor changes whilst he was at my office, so I did them whilst he was present, and he approved. Today he wrote to me from his home: The changes you made to my website are not showing at this end. Do I need to

Re: [WSG] [OT] users - IT literate?

2008-05-15 Thread Michael Horowitz
It sounds like your user has a virus. However when it comes to literacy most people using websites are computer competent or they wouldn't be surfing the web in the first place. Over time more and more people will be computer savvy and the current generation grew up with the web as a normal

Re: [WSG] Accessibility for HTML Email

2008-05-15 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Erickson, Kevin (DOE) wrote: I like the idea of a title tag being used i.e.- a href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title=e-mail address - [EMAIL PROTECTED]first name last name/a so what if i want to copy/paste the email from the page to another document or something? P -- Patrick H. Lauke

Re: [WSG] Accessibility for HTML Email

2008-05-15 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Erickson, Kevin (DOE) wrote: Although spam is a big red flag for many. Which should ideally be solved at the email server + email client end, in my view. P -- Patrick H. Lauke __ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used

Re: [WSG] Conact Form!

2008-05-15 Thread Matijs
James, Also, might want to consider getting rid of those ugly br/'s... You could try: label for=namespanName/spaninput type=text id=name//label Display the label and the span as a block and float the span and the input to the left, put a width on the span and you should be sorted. Greetings,

Re: [WSG] Background on body not aligning with tiled background on wrapper DIV

2008-05-15 Thread Matijs
Does overflow: hidden on the containing div and making the green bar wider help? On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 7:23 PM, Paul Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I've managed to put a page together. If you look at the green area in Firefox and IE you will notice a small gap at the right of the

[WSG] 2008 NZ Government Web Standards Review

2008-05-15 Thread Anthony.Hawkins
Hi all The annual review of the New Zealand Government Web Standards is now underway. We are very keen to get your comments and advice, which we'll feed directly into the review process. Let us know what's worked for you and what's caused problems. Are there standards you've

[WSG] RE: 2008 NZ Government Web Standards Review

2008-05-15 Thread Paul Bennett
Hi Anthony, I sent a request for a registration on the webstandards wiki 2 days ago - how long does it normally take SSC to grant access? Am I supposed to do something else? Regards, Paul Bennett Web Coder Web Centre Wellington City Council http://www.wellington.govt.nz

Re: [WSG] IE6 background image positioning problem

2008-05-15 Thread Susie Gardner-Brown
Thanks very much Gunlaug - that did work! And Matljs - re the banner table, I work at a university where you are supposed to use their template for university web pages. And the template is all in tables!! Over time I have taken most of the template out of tables, but to date have left the

Re: [WSG] Background on body not aligning with tiled background on wrapper DIV

2008-05-15 Thread Paul Collins
A good idea Matijs, but doesn't seem to work. Thanks for taking a look anyway. 2008/5/15 Matijs [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Does overflow: hidden on the containing div and making the green bar wider help? On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 7:23 PM, Paul Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I've managed

Re: [WSG] Background on body not aligning with tiled background on wrapper DIV

2008-05-15 Thread nate hanna
Paul, Try making your width on ul#footer 934px (960-15-11); reason being you need to subtract the left and right padding amount from the overall width since padding affects the width of the box. I noticed in firebug that the UL width was way wider than the wrapper whose width was 960px. Best

Re: [WSG] An efficient CSS architecture

2008-05-15 Thread nate hanna
For our custom projects at my work we have recently adopted the Tripolihttp://devkick.com/lab/tripoli/and combine.php http://rakaz.nl/projects/combine/combine.phps for compression (+gzip done by the server). On top of Tripoli; I have created our on in-house CSS framework/template that gets me

Re: Re[2]: [WSG] accessible client side form validation

2008-05-15 Thread nate hanna
Sorry for the delayed response; been extra busy of late. I've found the JQuery validation plug-in to be wonderful and easy to use: http://docs.jquery.com/Plugins/Validation. Be sure to read through the documentation first and this article is a good source for it as well:

Re: [WSG] Accessibility for HTML Email

2008-05-15 Thread David Hucklesby
On Thu, 15 May 2008 10:35:16 -0400, Erickson, Kevin (DOE) wrote: What is the most accessible method to have email links on web pages? After putting a plain email address on my web site I got a lot of spam. So I changed my contact address and put it on the page as mail(at)example(dot)com. Then