[WSG] Structuring CSS

Lets have it. How are you guys structuring your CSS files? I have been having a think about this over the last few days. My research attempts have failed because most the articles i came across were outdated - so i tend not to trust them. One method i thought about (not sure if it's been coined)

Re: [WSG] Structuring CSS

re -> How are you guys structuring your CSS files? for me, multiple css files for different parts of the page is harder to manage. I'm pretty old school & keep everything within the 1 css file (within reason). this also means 1 http request which is good. exceptions are if you had a massive "admin

Re: [WSG] Structuring CSS

Now that's a question to spark debate! Without leaning one way or another there are a number of different approaches you might try. Have you considered CSS frameworks such as Blueprint CSS[1] or the 960 grid system[2]? These approaches help to standardize your CSS by providing the basic page layo

Re: [WSG] Structuring CSS

I agree with Pete here, good structure/organization. Add on obvious class names and comments can be limited. div's/classes container header header_inner navbar wrapper wrapper_inner content content_inner sidebar sidebar_inner footer footer_inner Is common as starting point in mine. A h2 in sideb

RE: [WSG] Structuring CSS

* I'm guessing this sort of structuring comes at a cost because a number of requests need to be made to the server. Hi James, If you want to separate your CSS files, I would suggest combining them on the server and sending a single CSS to the browser. There are many sites that describe

Re: [WSG] Breadcrumbs showing organisational structure and usability

Wow. Make a genuine enquiry, and get this. I see this list is living up to its reputation for rudeness that I was warned about before I joined. I asked for opinions on the use of breadcrumbs for the reason I stated: because I was under the impression that they showed the user's path to the current

[WSG] Marking up multiple form inputs

Hi, Would the following layout be best marked up using a table: Column Header Column Header [label tag] [input tag] [input tag] [label tag] [input tag] [input tag] [label tag] [input tag] [input tag] Cheers [cid:image001.gif@01C8CAEE.12EF9EE0] soluti

[WSG] Help setting current menu state on level2 menus

Hi there I've been using the 456bereastreet.com method ( http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200503/setting_the_current_menu_state_ with_css/) to set the current menu state using css. Which is really great when there is only one level of menu items ... But I'm now trying to use it with 2 levels

RE: [WSG] Breadcrumbs showing organisational structure and usability

In response to Lib: Don't go. I too was appalled by the tone of the responses, but didn't have time to respond myself. I thought it was a reasonable request. Kerry (always sympathetic to the problems of libraries in organisations)

Re: [WSG] Breadcrumbs showing organisational structure and usability

Lib, I don't think you should leave the list over one person's comments if you are benefiting from other people's feedback. Libraries probably shouldn't fit under individual departments, but under the organisation's umbrella - I am particularly thinking of university libraries. If you are a speci

Re: [WSG] Marking up multiple form inputs

Tables shouldn't be used for layouts, use style sheets instead, but they should be used for *information* which lends itself well to a table. If you are trying to display data in an organised format, which requires columns and rows, then use a table. Jason On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Chris

RE: [WSG] Marking up multiple form inputs

Hi, I realise tables shouldn't be used for layouts. Doesn't this information suit a table structure though (tabular data)? If not what would you use? Cheers [cid:image001.gif@01C8CAF6.0206E130] solutions for a digital world

Re: [WSG] Marking up multiple form inputs

As far as I can tell without knowing the specifics of the data, it looks like information that suits a table - just as you have displayed it. I was confused by your question starting with 'Would the following layout...' so I thought it was worth pointing out that layouts shouldn't be done using tab

Re: [WSG] Help setting current menu state on level2 menus

Susie Gardner-Brown wrote: But when the link has sub-menu items under it, all of those get the same treatment! Because the styles are applied to the list item. Can anyone think of a way to do this that would not affect the sub-menu?

[WSG] Should we design for 800x600 screens?

Hi, I have a question I'd like to poll people about. Should we still bother designing to fit in with 800x600 screen resolutions or is it Ok to just design for 1024x768 and not worry about smaller resolutions? I know applications like Google Desktop make it more complicated and am interested t

Re: [WSG] Should we design for 800x600 screens?

make it fluid and everyone will be happy :) doesn't matter if we have 300px or 1280px, your website should (ok, with some restrictions, like 800-1024) adapt to user's needs 2008/6/10 IceKat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, > > I have a question I'd like to poll people about. Should we still bother > de

Re: [WSG] Should we design for 800x600 screens?

>>> Rochester oliveira wrote: > adapt to user's needs > That is the key. If the users are technical you would not bother designing for 800 x 600 screens if the users are internal and they work on smaller screens, you would. *** L

Re: [WSG] Should we design for 800x600 screens?

Depends on the targeted audience and what designer I work with. Sometimes we design for 800x600 while other times the designer we create for 1024 and we have no choice but to use those dimensions whether we like it or not. IceKat wrote: Hi, I have a question I'd like to poll people about. S

Re: [WSG] Help setting current menu state on level2 menus

Hi Georg Thanks for that. I'll have a go. You always seem to help me - thank you so much!! Re the font-resizing - sigh!! For a lot of the websites we develop at the university here, we're supposed to use this awful template, which includes the lefthand menu like this. In the template it's all in

Re: [WSG] Marking up multiple form inputs

sorry again, I can send you some samples if you wish s. On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:52 AM, sundar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Don't use table for this particular layout, keep the markup like label, > input & input > > Remove the , put a fieldset around then apply float to label & input >

Re: [WSG] Should we design for 800x600 screens?

Jermayn Parker wrote: If the users are technical you would not bother designing for 800 x 600 screens Hmmm? I wonder if that's strictly true, given the surge in ultralite notebooks like the ASUS EEEPC. My new one ( a 900 - c'mon NZCouriers, just deliver the thing!) will have 1024 as a defaul

Re: [WSG] Marking up multiple form inputs

Hi, Don't use table for this particular layout, keep the markup like label, input & input Remove the , put a fieldset around then apply float to label & input and set width which matches your layout. Also I can't sent you some samples if you wish Thanks Sundar On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 7:07 AM,

Re: [WSG] Should we design for 800x600 screens?

It probably has been asked before - but the answer is likely to change with time (as monitor sizes vary or normalize) so the question is still as relevant as ever. If you were to ask the question to Jakob Nielson, he would say optimize for 1024x768 [1] and provide a liquid content area. But you r

RE: [WSG] Help setting current menu state on level2 menus

> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Susie Gardner-Brown > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 6:45 PM > To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org > Subject: [WSG] Help setting current menu state on level2 menus > > Hi there > > I've been using the 456bereas

Re: [WSG] Help setting current menu state on level2 menus

Susie Gardner-Brown wrote: Re the font-resizing - sigh!! For a lot of the websites we develop at the university here, we're supposed to use this awful template, which includes the lefthand menu like this. In the template it's all in tables!! I got the way of doing this menu from http://demo.

RE: [WSG] Structuring CSS

> How are you guys structuring your CSS files? I am currently in the process of restructuring our CSS. The approach I'm looking into is as follows: 1) use Eric Meyer's reset CSS to create a common base 2) use Blueprint's grid.css for the grid layer 3) use a component CSS layer to a) give

RE: [WSG] Structuring CSS

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Re: [WSG] Structuring CSS

The way I structure my CSS is very much like you said - taking the Software Development principles of Object-Oriented programming, and is pretty much inline with what everyone else has said. I generally break my CSS up to the following categories: - reset.css : Reset all browser defaults. Gecko,

Re: [WSG] Should we design for 800x600 screens?

I would say Absolutely, absoutely and absolutely! My reasoning for this is simple: what about the rest of those users who *don't browse the internet with the browser in full screen*? As a matter of fact I'm doing it right now, so thank god GMail scales gracefully, or I probably wouldn't use it! I

Re: [WSG] Structuring CSS

Anton wrote... - In regards to "I'm guessing this sort of structuring comes at a cost because a number of requests need to be made to the server." this is generally untrue. In principle this is exactly how download accelerators work. They split a large file into smaller segments and sent mu

Re: [WSG] Should we design for 800x600 screens?

By subject... Should we design for 800x600 screens Design for? Not necessarily. Accommodate? Yes. Cheers. Mike Cherim http://green-beast.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http

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RE: [WSG] Should we design for 800x600 screens?

what about mobile browsing? the iphone is having quite the impact on mobile computing and designing to 800x600 is going to mean you're likely making information inaccessible and un-usable designing to a screen size is like designing to one browser my advice - 1. profile your users and

Re: [WSG] Should we design for 800x600 screens?

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Re: [WSG] Structuring CSS

Interesting to hear. I will do a formal test on our network sometime when I get the chance and report on my findings as well. Out of curiosity, it wasn't an actual physical stop watch was it? Its far less error prone to use something like the Net tab of Firebug or an external plugin like "Charles

Re: [WSG] Should we design for 800x600 screens?

For Mobile Browsing you generally take different approaches altogether, especially for WebKit powered phones (the iPhone and the to come GPhone). This is generally because you will be providing completely different navigational structures and really narrowing down on the most important features.

Re: [WSG] Help setting current menu state on level2 menus

Thanks Thierry - I'm looking into that too! Just not clear if it will handle more than one level of menu items, waiting to hear back from them. Cheers susie On 10/6/08 2:55 PM, "Thierry Koblentz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

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Re: [WSG] Structuring CSS

re -> Out of curiosity, it wasn't an actual physical stop watch was it? of course not - it was an abacus! ;-) nah in all seriousness, it was before the time of firebug, and around the time of the birth of this mailing list. yes it was literally a stopwatch - which was enough for me at the time. i

Re: [WSG] Structuring CSS

There really needs to be a consistent method of sturucturing CSS personally. If i cram everything onto one file I feel like the structure of the website is not really effective and editing becomes a task. Most the time I will break up the CSS file into a few sections as standard and use Yahoo!'s r