RE: [WSG] Shopping cart - who does what

2008-08-13 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
Do the free [shopping carts] (such as ZenCart and OsCommerce) do an adequate job ? I once did a ZenCart job for a friend and found it extremely confusing. ZenCart has hundreds of options and if you're new to the software you should prepare for a lot of searching on the net. That said there are

Re: [WSG] Shopping cart - who does what

2008-08-13 Thread Lynette Smith
Do the free [shopping carts] (such as ZenCart and OsCommerce) do an adequate job ? My friend populated the shop at the time because he was savvy with Photoshop and could do all the image work himself. But you could as well end up doing that too if your client hasn't that knowledge.

Re: [WSG] Shopping cart - who does what

2008-08-13 Thread 8bits Media
I think it would be worth your while to go and check out Magento - http://www.magentocommerce.com/ The makers of this product have done a great job of making it standards compliant, as well as very usable. We're in the process of integrating it into a new project. Regards, Nick 8bits

Re: [WSG] Shopping cart - who does what

2008-08-13 Thread Lynette Smith
. I think it would be worth your while to go and check out Magento - http://www.magentocommerce.com/ The makers of this product have done a great job of making it standards compliant, as well as very usable. We're in the process of integrating it into a new project. OK - thanks- will do!

Re: [WSG] Shopping cart - who does what

2008-08-13 Thread Krystian - Sunlust
I used osCommerce and Virtuemart with Joomla. osCommerce is pretty straightforward, Virtuemart is a plugin/component for Joomla CMS and I prefer it even thought it's not as good (it's simpler tho). You don't need any photoshop knowledge above resizing/cutting photos and that's really basics. Now

Re: [WSG] Shopping cart - who does what

2008-08-13 Thread Lynette Smith
.Thanks Krystian You don't need any photoshop knowledge above resizing/cutting photos and that's really basics. Now about inputting products, I have made a shop for a friend who has over 1000 products so obviously he and his team had to input all of them (I've prepared and printed a tutorial

Re: [WSG] Shopping cart - who does what

2008-08-13 Thread Adam Martin
I am a pretty active magento developer and highly recommend it as well.. but it really only suits those clients whose whole site is an ecommerce solution. For example, take a look at a client of mine - julesroc.com.au I am working on a custom solution that allows ecommerce to be a part of a

Re: [WSG] Shopping cart - who does what

2008-08-13 Thread Joseph Ortenzi
why would it not work as a directory under the main site tree, i.e.: www.domain.com.au/shop/ . I think developers are keen on a lightweight, simple to use and deploy and template shopping cart system. ZenCart and osCommmerce are terrible to both set up and use, so lose-lose IMHO. Surely a

Re: [WSG] Shopping cart - who does what

2008-08-13 Thread Jason Pruim
On Aug 13, 2008, at 1:34 AM, Lynette Smith wrote: Have always avoided doing sites that needed a shopping cart but a new client will need one. I would appreciate some advice. Do the free ones (such as ZenCart and OsCommerce) do an adequate job or would I be better off advising my client

RE: [WSG] Shopping cart - who does what

2008-08-13 Thread Paul Collins
Hi Joe, Can you recommend a shopping cart system that is easy to set up and use, be it open source or not? Trying to make a decision myself at the moment and would be interested to hear your thoughts. Cheers Paul From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [WSG] Shopping cart - who does what

2008-08-13 Thread Joseph Ortenzi
$500 for a custom job that, done properly, would be a couple of days work at least for an experienced developer sounds pretty cheap to me... That's half my day rate Joe On Aug 13, 2008, at 11:15, Jason Pruim wrote: On Aug 13, 2008, at 1:34 AM, Lynette Smith wrote: Have always avoided

RE: [WSG] Shopping cart - who does what

2008-08-13 Thread info
I've recently started to use drupal with the ubercart module. It's really easy to set up and it's pretty easy to theme too. drupal on its own is a great cms. Download the whole package from ubercart though http://www.ubercart.org/downloads The deluxe package includes drupal and some extra

Re: [WSG] Shopping cart - who does what

2008-08-13 Thread Lynette Smith
Hi Jason Don't have much to offer, but just wanted to let you know I looked into a custom cart awhile back for a job that never went through, but the cart was going to cost around $500 by the time it was ready. So while it seems like alot of money, it's probably a decent deal. Well, if

Re: [WSG] Shopping cart - who does what

2008-08-13 Thread Adam Martin
I agree... you get what you pay for. $500 is nothing. I know that I have spent about 500hrs in building my integrated ecomerce solution - but it has been well thought out - it is stds compliant etc etc. I would suggest having a look at shopify if you want a cheap basic but good ecommerce

RE: [WSG] Shopping cart - who does what

2008-08-13 Thread Paul Collins
Anyone tried these? Someone just recommended them here: http://www.shopify.com/ http://www.freecsscart.com/ http://www.tradingeye.com/department/products/ Cheers -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August

Re: [WSG] Shopping cart - who does what

2008-08-13 Thread Joseph Ortenzi
which one is yours Martin? can I see an example? I have a client looking for one right now... might custom build bits, might not Joe On Aug 13, 2008, at 12:05, Adam Martin wrote: I agree... you get what you pay for. $500 is nothing. I know that I have spent about 500hrs in building my

Re: [WSG] Shopping cart - who does what

2008-08-13 Thread Krystian - Sunlust
Could some of you guys trim the messages? It's really hard to read when you top post above useless tones of wording. Regards, -- Krystian - Sunlust - I-M-A: Freelancer on the side: http://sunlust.net Full time Website Designer: http://smesolutions.co.uk/

Re: [WSG] Shopping cart - who does what

2008-08-13 Thread Adam Martin
Hi Joe, I will be putting it out into the wild in a few weeks - just putting the final touches on it now. Cheers Adam - Original Message - From: Joseph Ortenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Shopping cart -

Re: [WSG] Shopping cart - who does what

2008-08-13 Thread James Ellis
On Wednesday 13 August 2008 21:23:23 Krystian - Sunlust wrote: Could some of you guys trim the messages? It's really hard to read when you top post above useless tones of wording. Regards, Hi all This thread has gone off topic for the list, if you want to continue to discuss it, please do

Re: [WSG] Shopping cart - who does what

2008-08-13 Thread Krystian - Sunlust
Okay, I'll try to bring it back OnTopic. Which of shopping cards actually uses css based templates without tones of tables? And if noone will mind, which CMS does so? I mean,I'm using Joomla and everyone says that the templates are standard compliant etc, but when I see the bloody header named

Re: [WSG] Shopping cart - who does what

2008-08-13 Thread Joseph Ortenzi
Good points Krystian I've make standards compliant templates in ZenCart but it was a very hard slog and involved minimising a lot of the functions and layout options, not ideal. Also, you rightly address semantic mark-up as vital which few cart options get right. If I'm in the dvd section,

Re: [WSG] Shopping cart - who does what

2008-08-13 Thread info
Hi Krystian, Again i would recommend drupal for cms - standards compliant SEO friendly as standard. And then the ubercart ecommerce module for drupal - standards compliant as standard too :) Thats exactly the reason why we have started to use it. Would have used cubecart as v4 is

Re: [WSG] Shopping cart - who does what

2008-08-13 Thread Robert DC. Reyes, MCP
I use and teach PlainCart for our Electronic Commerce subjects. Visit http://www.plaincart.info for details. brgds, Bob Reyes http://bobreyes.com On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Lynette Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Have always avoided doing sites that needed a shopping cart but a new

Re: [WSG] Shopping cart - who does what

2008-08-13 Thread Krystian - Sunlust
If anyone was bored, it would be cool to post a shopping cart name and then a link to an example shop actually made by someone from this group/a friend, so that we know that real people make those shops (not huge companies with big $$$). I'll post my shop made in Joomla 1.5 with Virtuemart (I'm

Re: Can I widen the question? Re: [WSG] Shopping cart - who does what

2008-08-13 Thread chris . block
I second this wholeheartedly. It would be great use the collective knowledge of this group to build a list of 3rd party software vendors for common solutions (e-commerce, CMS, forums, search, etc.) that are written using, or designed to easily support, web standards. I would look to such a

RE: Can I widen the question? Re: [WSG] Shopping cart - who does what

2008-08-13 Thread Kepler Gelotte
If anybody is likely to collect a list of tools and software that can (or can be made to) deliver standards based content, it should be us; any idea how we could list and share? I would suggest using the forum. Someone created a thread there about this topic already:

Re: Can I widen the question? Re: [WSG] Shopping cart - who does what

2008-08-13 Thread Joseph Ortenzi
I shortened the URL for you. That discussion was 2006 so I hope there are more on offer now as opposed to then... http://is.gd/1q4a Joe On Aug 13, 2008, at 17:07, Kepler Gelotte wrote: If anybody is likely to collect a list of tools and software that can (or can be made to) deliver

Re: Can I widen the question? Re: [WSG] Shopping cart - who does what

2008-08-13 Thread Bruce
From: Joseph Ortenzi wrote: I shortened the URL for you. That discussion was 2006 so I hope there are more on offer now as opposed to then... http://is.gd/1q4a Joe I would suggest using the forum. Someone created a thread there about this topic already:

Re: Can I widen the question? Re: [WSG] Shopping cart - who does what

2008-08-13 Thread Bruce
Looks like the forums require a separate application to use? Bruce bkdesign - Original Message - From: Joseph Ortenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 12:31 PM Subject: Re: Can I widen the question? Re: [WSG] Shopping cart - who does

Re: Can I widen the question? Re: [WSG] Shopping cart - who does what

2008-08-13 Thread Joseph Ortenzi
surely you've heard of tinyURL? On Aug 13, 2008, at 17:51, Bruce wrote: From: Joseph Ortenzi wrote: I shortened the URL for you. That discussion was 2006 so I hope there are more on offer now as opposed to then... http://is.gd/1q4a Joe I would suggest using the forum. Someone created

Re: Can I widen the question? Re: [WSG] Shopping cart - who does what

2008-08-13 Thread Adam Martin
I will be looking for web standard group members to try my cms / ecommerce custom solution. Please email me off the list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) if you are interested. If you could also tell me your background in regards to developing / designing web apps. Cheers. Adam P.S mine is one of those

Re: [WSG] Shopping cart - who does what

2008-08-13 Thread tee
On Aug 13, 2008, at 12:00 AM, 8bits Media wrote: I think it would be worth your while to go and check out Magento - http://www.magentocommerce.com/ The makers of this product have done a great job of making it standards compliant, as well as very usable. We're in the process of

Re: [WSG] Shopping cart - who does what

2008-08-13 Thread tee
On Aug 13, 2008, at 7:00 PM, tee wrote: I'd been learning Magento since beta 1, guess I will add my 2 cents. Magento is very impressive, and you can make your magento store as compliant as it can be with its very flexible, a-bit-daunting template system. But to say magento is standards