RE: [WSG] IEv8 support for Data URIs?

2009-01-26 Thread Foskett, Mike
Hi All, Forget that last post; Complete rubbish; I made a basic error in the testing. It turns out IEv8 supports both the NOT IE conditional comment and Data URIs. The error was thrown up by badly layered conditional comments and the use of a * hack. Doh! Mike Foskett

Re: [WSG] Looking For Information

2009-01-26 Thread Nancy Johnson
I started to tab/enter throughout the site. Main navigation is at the top, is mouseover and mouse out and it skipped directly to the sign up It reads, Home, The Recipes, Nigella loves, Food Forum, Nigella's Books etc, Club Room Sign in, many of these are drop down menus I did not try the sign

[WSG] Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-01-26 Thread Jessica Enders
Hi Pascal In the JavaScript/Accessibility/form validation discussion you mention the growing number of users who purposefully disable JavaScript. I'm always curious just how many people this is. Do you, or does anyone else, have any statistics on this? Is there a reason you describe it

Re: [WSG] Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-01-26 Thread James O'Neill
Our small county site has about 297k visitors last year and about 1.9% (5,700) had Javascript disabled according to SuperStats. On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 14:33, Jessica Enders jess...@formulate.com.auwrote: Hi Pascal In the JavaScript/Accessibility/form validation discussion you mention the

Re: [WSG] Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-01-26 Thread David Lane
Given the increased number of threats and the availability of slick script blocker extensions for Firefox like NoScript (http://noscript.net/) it's only going to get more common, particularly among security conscious people. I certainly use it, only enabling Javascript for a site I'm visiting when

Re: [WSG] Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-01-26 Thread Sven Dowideit
I have JS disabled, and only enable it for sites which I decide I need it working. Due to the way I work, I often have hundreds of browser tabs open and I can leave them open for weeks with JS off. I also find it educational to see which sites have non-functional forms because they have used JS

Re: [WSG] Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-01-26 Thread Anthony Ziebell
_javascript_ should be implemented only to supplement / layer existing functionality. Your site should operate just fine without it... There are always exceptions to this rule however you shouldn't let _javascript_ dictate how you code. Thanks, Anthony. Sven Dowideit wrote: I have JS

Re: [WSG] Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-01-26 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
David Lane wrote: Given the increased number of threats and the availability of slick script blocker extensions for Firefox like NoScript (http://noscript.net/) it's only going to get more common, particularly among security conscious people. I certainly use it, only enabling Javascript for a

Re: [WSG] Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-01-26 Thread David Lane
Hello Patrick, On Mon, 2009-01-26 at 21:55 +, Patrick H. Lauke wrote: David Lane wrote: Given the increased number of threats and the availability of slick script blocker extensions for Firefox like NoScript (http://noscript.net/) it's only going to get more common, particularly

Re: [WSG] Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-01-26 Thread David Dixon
Agreed, if people have real long term usage statistics that they can share to support the claim that Javascript use is in decline, and not focus on very one-sided arguments of personal use or everyone i know then I'd be interested to hear. Until that time, or my own analysis supports these

Re: [WSG] Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-01-26 Thread David Dixon
Again, can you show that the small decline in IE's market share has contributed to users blocking Javascript or using specific Firefox extensions? IE has had plugins such as the Web Accessibility Toolbar etc for some years now that allow disabling of Javascript very easily, so why would the

[WSG] Re: Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-01-26 Thread Simon Pascal Klein
Comments inline: On 27/01/2009, at 7:33 AM, Jessica Enders wrote: Hi Pascal In the JavaScript/Accessibility/form validation discussion you mention the growing number of users who purposefully disable JavaScript. I'm always curious just how many people this is. Do you, or does anyone

RE: [WSG] Re: Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-01-26 Thread Paul Hudson
Doesn't ie6's highest security setting turn js off? I haven't looked at ie7 but would assume similar. Regards Paul -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Simon Pascal Klein Sent: Tuesday, 27 January 2009 2:59 PM To:

RE: [WSG] Re: Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-01-26 Thread Rick Faircloth
According to statistics supplied by w3schools.com, as of Jan 08 approximately 95% of users had JS enabled. Check out http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp and look towards the middle of the page for the stats. Rick -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org

Re: [WSG] Re: Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-01-26 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Paul Hudson wrote: Doesn't ie6's highest security setting turn js off? Yes, and all that goes with it - like IE-expressions. I haven't looked at ie7 but would assume similar. IE7 same as IE6. From the look of it - brief testing - IE8b2 also turns off script-support in high security mode.

[WSG] How to hide/show form questions with javascript while meeting WCAG 2?

2009-01-26 Thread littlerach
BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; }Hi everyone, I am starting to learn javascript/jquery and would like to use it to hide questions on a form dependant on the answer to another question. I have seen plenty of working examples but am concerned that they wouldn't be