Re: [WSG] label:hover - more harm than good?!

2009-02-04 Thread Robert O'Rourke
tee wrote: Thanks Rob, and David. If the label and the checkbox or select have matching 'for' and 'id' attributes they should be getting focus when clicked. As far as the value label:hover goes I tend not to make labels change colour on hover as they may be misinterpreted as links. If you

Re: [WSG] Opera Targeting?!

2009-02-04 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Brett Patterson wrote: [...] Now I realize where most of my problems have stemmed from. Note that nearly all such designer bugs will be caught if you follow WCAG2 recommendations and resize text in a browser to at least 200% of browser default. (Default is 16px on 96dpi screen resolution in

Re: [WSG] Opera Targeting?!

2009-02-04 Thread tee
On Feb 4, 2009, at 3:02 AM, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: Brett Patterson wrote: [...] Now I realize where most of my problems have stemmed from. Note that nearly all such designer bugs will be caught if you follow WCAG2 recommendations and resize text in a browser to at least 200% of browser

Re: [WSG] Failed A Job :(

2009-02-04 Thread Lionel Bethancourt
Yikes! I know that feeling all too well! It's like learning to fly on your way down feeling. The worst part is giving up. It is a nightmare... On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 12:13 PM, James Jeffery jamesjeffery@googlemail.com wrote: Indeed. My only problem is I have lost future work from the guy

Re: [WSG] Opera Targeting?!

2009-02-04 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
tee wrote: IS 200% one time font size increasement or two? 200% is twice the default size, and the number of steps to get there varies from browser to browsers. Again: _default_ isn't whatever size you have declared in/for your document, but the browsers' own defaults. This default font size

Re: [WSG] Opera Targeting?!

2009-02-04 Thread Felix Miata
On 2009/02/04 09:19 (GMT-0500) Brett Patterson composed: Okay, one quick question. You say 200% is twice the default size, but in browsers like Firefox 3, there is only the (shortcut) Ctrl++ to zoom in, and I cannot find the percentage of that zoom, so is 200% font size increasement one or

Re: [WSG] Opera Targeting?!

2009-02-04 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Brett Patterson wrote: Okay, one quick question. You say 200% is twice the default size, but in browsers like Firefox 3, there is only the (shortcut) Ctrl++ to zoom in, and I cannot find the percentage of that zoom, so is 200% font size increasement one or two clicks? Much more than that,

Re: [WSG] Opera Targeting?!

2009-02-04 Thread David Dixon
Not quite right im afraid. Patrick Lauke sent an email about this in December that highlighted the Firefox zoom config as shown below: -- Quote -- toolkit.zoomManager.zoomValues, and this will show the various zoom factors at each step. In my case (which should be the default) these are: .3,

Re: [WSG] Opera Targeting?!

2009-02-04 Thread Brett Patterson
Okay, one quick question. You say 200% is twice the default size, but in browsers like Firefox 3, there is only the (shortcut) Ctrl++ to zoom in, and I cannot find the percentage of that zoom, so is 200% font size increasement one or two clicks? -- Brett P. On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 7:47 AM,

Re: [WSG] Opera Targeting?!

2009-02-04 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
David Dixon wrote: Not quite right im afraid. Patrick Lauke sent an email about this in December that highlighted the Firefox zoom config as shown below: -- Quote -- toolkit.zoomManager.zoomValues, and this will show the various zoom factors at each step. In my case (which should be the

Re: [WSG] Opera Targeting?!

2009-02-04 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: Maybe someone can do a control check, measure the actual sizes on screen for zoom values and mouse-wheel resizing steps for 'text resizing' vs 'full page zoom' set at shown values, and let us know the results. Just to make sure we're resizing the same way: notice that I

Re: [WSG] Opera Targeting?!

2009-02-04 Thread David Hucklesby
On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 03:37:19 -0800, tee wrote: IS 200% one time font size increasement or two? While FF 3 does not tell you, Firebug will show you the calculated font-size in pixels after re-sizing. In the CSS panel, choose Options Show computed style. Hope this helps. Cordially, David --

Re: [WSG] Opera Targeting?!

2009-02-04 Thread David Hucklesby
On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 03:37:19 -0800, tee wrote: IS 200% one time font size increasement or two? While FF 3 does not tell you, Firebug will show you the calculated font-size in pixels after re-sizing. In the CSS panel, choose Options Show computed style. Hope this helps. Cordially, David --

RE: [WSG] Starting with HTML and CSS

2009-02-04 Thread Linda Mitchell
This is a great resource that I am sending my students to http://www.opera.com/company/education/curriculum/ Linda -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Katrina Sent: Tuesday, 3 February 2009 6:33 PM To: