Re: [WSG] breaks, lists in a form or not, and more or less divs

2010-01-05 Thread David Dorward
On 5 Jan 2010, at 06:40, Jayachandran Kandasamy wrote: Use padding / margin thru CSS instead of BRs... OK, so I want: Mary had a little lamb, little lamb, little lamb, Mary had a little lamb, whose fleece was white as snow. So I would mark this up as: p Mary had a little lamb, br

Re: [WSG] breaks, lists in a form or not, and more or less divs

2010-01-05 Thread Andrew
I'm sorry but that is ridiculous. We are talking about a poem and I assure you that the lines have a very definite semantic significance. Therefore the separation of the text into lines *must* be retained even in the absence of CSS. Any solution other than the br tag is needlessly

Re: [WSG] breaks, lists in a form or not, and more or less divs

2010-01-05 Thread Jayachandran Kandasamy
Hi, Andrew makes sense :) What you can do is.. use pre/pre tags for the poem lines you just type the lines how should it look inside the pre tags. So you can include PRE tags for every stanzas and maintain the gap between them with CSS padding. Thanks, Jayachandran On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 2:59

[WSG] More on understanding html5

2010-01-05 Thread designer
I am getting a bit bogged down with this new stuff! I used figure in this case: figure img src=graphics/marramgrass.gif alt=marram grass width=116 height=400/ p style=text-align:center Marram Grass /p /figure and the (experimental) validator said

Re: [WSG] More on understanding html5

2010-01-05 Thread David Dorward
On 5 Jan 2010, at 12:59, designer wrote: I used figure in this case: figure img src=graphics/marramgrass.gif alt=marram grass width=116 height=400/ p style=text-align:center Marram Grass /p /figure As an aside, you might want to test in

RE: [WSG] More on understanding html5

2010-01-05 Thread Darren Lovelock
I dont know html5 but a definition list should be in html4: dl dt/dt dd/dd /dl But then again html5 seems to not need opening or closing tags in a lot of cases, as it accommodates for a more sloppy way of coding and therefore the validator may be incorrect. Here it doesn't say to use a

Re: [WSG] More on understanding html5

2010-01-05 Thread David Dorward
On 5 Jan 2010, at 13:33, Darren Lovelock wrote: But then again html5 seems to not need opening or closing tags in a lot of cases, as it accommodates for a more sloppy way of coding and therefore the validator may be incorrect. HTML4 doesn't require opening or closing tags in many cases

[WSG] a tiny usability question on web form

2010-01-05 Thread tee
Was making a web form for a commercial software which clientele are mainly from EU countries, in the original form the order of the Country field. The order looks like this: address/street country state city zipcode Maybe I'd been making too many web forms for US and some Asian countries'

Re: [WSG] a tiny usability question on web form

2010-01-05 Thread Elias Abunassar
Conduct research. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 5, 2010, at 9:19 AM, tee weblis...@gmail.com wrote: Was making a web form for a commercial software which clientele are mainly from EU countries, in the original form the order of the Country field. The order looks like this: address/street

Re: [WSG] a tiny usability question on web form

2010-01-05 Thread tee
On Jan 5, 2010, at 7:19 AM, Elias Abunassar wrote: Conduct research. Sent from my iPhone Please do not assume people don't do homework before they post :-) I did conduct research before I posted my message. Here are the problems: 1. I have difficulty to locate sites in different

Re: [WSG] a tiny usability question on web form

2010-01-05 Thread Andrew Maben
I think this *is* a usability issue. How vital is it to have states available as a pull-down, rather than a simple text field? If the pull-down is non-negotiable, my suggestion would be to move the country choice to the top of the address section: I think that might be a little less

Re: [WSG] a tiny usability question on web form

2010-01-05 Thread Elias Abunassar
On Jan 5, 2010, at 7:19 AM, Elias Abunassar wrote: Conduct research. Sent from my iPhone Please do not assume people don't do homework before they post :-) Didn't assume anything. That was sent from my phone. Apologies. Try: http://www.lukew.com/resources/articles/WebForms_LukeW.pdf

Re: [WSG] a tiny usability question on web form

2010-01-05 Thread Lesley Lutomski
I agree with Andrew. I'd find it far less confusing to enter my country first, rather than in the middle of the address. (Personally, I also find having state before city very strange.) Lesley Andrew Maben wrote: I think this *is* a usability issue. How vital is it to have states

Re: [WSG] a tiny usability question on web form

2010-01-05 Thread nedlud
In terms of coding such a form, are you populating the state field with any information that depends on knowing what country the user is in? (or any other location dependant information in other fields?). If the answer is yes, then I'd say it's quite important to have the country field *before*

Re: [WSG] a tiny usability question on web form

2010-01-05 Thread Elias Abunassar
Try Luke Wroblewski http://visitmix.com/Articles/Web-Forms-for-People, Rosenfeld Mediahttp://rosenfeldmedia.com/books/webforms/and Boxes Arrows. Here's an example where Country comes before state: https://www.discovery.apply2jobs.com/index.cfm. Scroll down to Division then select Country. Hope