On 10 Feb 2004, at 11:03, russ weakley wrote:
Well done to Johan, Cameron and Andy for getting it up and running!
Andy has written more here:
http://www.andybudd.com/blog/archives/000154.html
No Worries.
Johan deserves most of the credit. All I did was do the MT instillation.
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Mac these days, but out of habit, design
for 720 as it's nicely divisible by 3 (for 3-col layouts), and then add
10px padding on each side.
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Considering the site is about surgery, I'd steer clear of red
altogether!
Really bad choice there, unless you are deliberately trying to unnerve
people and put them off. How about a soothing blue or a clinical green?
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posters, though,
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Just wanted to say how cool the Web Essentials 04 conference looks.
http://we04.com/
It's defiantly something I'd love to attend. Shame it's on the other
side of the world. I assume all the aussie developers on the list are
planning to be there.
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For a 2 day conference, the registration costs seem pretty reasonable.
And I assume, like the UK, if you're running your own business, the
costs would be tax deductible.
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groups, I wonder if anybody has thought
about integrating the WSG with http://webstandards.meetup.com/ ?
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look at the table vs CSS debate was
required.
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Thanks Kay and Hugh
I am currently trying to pen a reasonable reply to Andy Budd's post
this morning
http://www.andybudd.com/archives/2004/05/
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sigh
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anyway!
Next time I should just check the roster and leave you to respond to
the Tables are bad because... posts!
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This is probably a dumb question, but am I right in assuming that IE
will only correctly display an apos; character entity if the XHTML
file has an XML declaration?
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Doesn't appear to, which is a bit odd.
#39; is fine though.
Thanks dog
I've always wanted to say that :-)
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You
mean they don't?
Some do. However some like it the old fashioned way.
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Peter Firminger wrote:
In the members section of the WSG site, you can see how many people
are in
your area at the bottom of the members homepage (
http://webstandardsgroup.org/manage/login_view.cfm ).
Cool, there are two other people from Brighton on this list. waves
type=hello /
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intended, it is read as a vindication of their
position. See, Andy Budd agrees with me.
Funny but I've just re-read the comments and I don't get that feeling
at all. The general response seems to be that people are happy using
CSS for most layout situations but will not discount simple, non nested
individual pages. As such,
the time savings only really start to manifest themselves on medium to
large scale jobs. For small scale jobs, it can actually take longer and
thus be more costly.
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Oi, I heard that.
:-p
Hill, Tim wrote:
Yeah who's that Andy Budd guy anyway? *duck*
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Oops,
Sorry folks. Somehow I managed to send this to the wrong mailing list
:-(
Don't I feel like a prat!
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can you get it in New Zealand?
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Just for the heck of it. To my surprise, this worked in Firefox 0.8,
IE6, and Opera 7.23
So have I accidentally stumbled on a perfectly valid use of css, or am
I exploiting some bug? Will the margin display properly
cross-browsers/platforms ?
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Here's a quick (and probably stupid) accessibility question regarding
screen readers.
labelspanS/spanearch/label
I assume the a screen reader will read this out as Search and not S
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, or least stop mark-up getting in the way.
Smartass
I hope you're gonna use that for your SkillSwap :-)
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Very slick.
Nice
Marc Greenstock wrote:
Hi all,
I was wondering if anyone could be so kind as to test my site using IE
for
Mac 5+ and Safari
http://www.v2.shockmedia.com.au
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Accessibility
Usability
HCI (A study on how people interact with computers)
And ideally, some kind of book on advice on implementing the above
across a very large business involving teams seperate design,
development and editorial teams.
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First taxi off the rank is Andy Budd's book listing at
http://webstandardsgroup.org/resources/#cat31 - Andy, feel free to
update the listing.
Cheers James.
I probably should add some of my articles as well, shouldn't I?
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A directory is a good idea, however there are quite a few sites doing
similar things these days.
Somebody could write a bot that validates as it crawls. Then you could
have a standards compliant SE.
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, stating these are the 'industry
standard'.
Is this the case? If not could anyone hit me with a nice list objective
comparison?
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with 100,000 Euro membership
fees.
Kyle
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Hi Geoff,
How sweet.
Obviously it was just meant to be a bit of fun, but I guess you always
get one or two party poopers.
I'm planning to post up my answers later this evening, so please feel
free to come by my site and rip them/me apart in person.
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complaint content management systems.
OK, it's not great, but better than writing your own set of criteria.
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Hi Folks,
I was just wondering if anybody can point me in the direction of a
sportswear or fashion site using web standards?
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Krassy wrote:
San Diego, CA here...2 hours south of Marina Del Rey.
Blimey, you must drive fast. I spent 2 days driving between San Diego
and LA. Sure I did stop off on the way, but even so, 2 hours!
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taking the scenic route and keeping within the 55mph
speed limit as well, which would explain why it took me so long.
Anyway, sorry for the OT banter.
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http://old.alistapart.com/stories/fee/
http://www.allfreelancework.com/articlef1013hourates.php
http://www.hwg.org/resources/faqs/ratesFAQ.html
http://provider.com/howtoset.htm
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? If you hack, what methods do you use, why do you use that
method, and more importantly, why do you need it in the first place?
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. Of course
this often involves changing the mark-up which some people would take
issue with.
One question I have, Is using a CSS selector that is not support by a
certain browser, a hack? Some people think so..
Absolutely not. That's the beauty of CSS. Graceful degradation.
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to comply can reduce accessibility. Some are
obvious, but many others aren't.
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for your portfolio, why not offer your
services to a charity or not for profit group who otherwise wouldn't be
able to afford your design services. That way you'd have a real,
working site to show, rather than a standards compliant clone.
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be to always wireframe and to build prototypes
when you have the time/budget.
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Showing my ignorance:
Don't wireframes show flow only? Like the map view in Dreamweaver? Or
is
it an actual possible design one creates often in Photoshop, though
this
article indicated Freehand.
Hi Nancy,
Think storyboard, only without the graphical elements
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is essentially what John does in his example.
And here is the article I assume John Horner was referring to
http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/css/link-specificity.html
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sites designed by aussies and
kiwis, many of which I've added to my links list. However I'm always on
the lookout for more cool, standards complains sites, so wondered who
you guys felt which companies and individuals were turning out the best
work down under?
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about it, they know where you live because of your geotags and they
know if your not home, and how far away you are from home, because your
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crew and you've the makings of a great conference.
I hope people will be blogging about it, and I'd love to see some of
the presentations or even just the keynote streamed for those of us on
the other side of the planet :-)
If you're based in Oz however you'd be a fool to miss it.
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don't have a format. I simply put
them in the order I write them in.
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Mark Harwood wrote:
Yeah We really need summat like this in the UK!
Fancy increasing you GeekEnd's a bit Andy? ;)
Well there has been talk so you never know what may be happening next
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Sorry for the rather random and off topic post, but I wonder if anybody
here knows what the web design scene is like in Christchurch, NZ?
Are there any particularly well known web design firms for there,
especially those working in the web standards arena?
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There is a little one, as far as I know...why Chch?
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I want to go there - now!!!
Me to!
Another nice CSS site added to my bookmarks.
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if the clients
is more interested in cost than quality, there will always be somebody
willing to do the job for less. Rather than blame the clients, you
probably need to rethink the market you're aiming at.
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in our
accessibility statements along with a description of our accesskeys,
compliance goals etc.
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quality work it takes longer and so costs more. If you do a
bodge job it gets done quicker and so costs less.
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and admit I've also cross posted this to
css-discuss. Hope nobody minds.
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elements. Your second example
targets only anchor elements that haven't been visited!
Common guys, rtfm
http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/selector.html#link-pseudo-classes
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Patrick Lauke wrote:
the lovely molly holzschlag gets a makeover courtesy of redux, stylist
to the stars.
Lol, you make yourself sound like some kind of new media hair dresser.
Nice site though.
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If you have a blog, why not join BlogAid and offer to donate your site
earnings for January to the aid agency of your choice.
http://www.blogaid.org.uk/
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explicitly ask for usability feedback if that was what you wanted.
Probably even better to post to a general web dev mailing list or even
a usability list.
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IE5 has a bug that can put extra space between list items. Setting the
li to be inline fixes this issue.
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with spurious arguments
simply to justify using a table. If you want to use a table, just do
it.
For accessibility I'd suggest using a label on each input but hide it
visually using one of the standard techniques.
Um, how is hiding the label going to improve accessibility?
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On 12 Jan 2005, at 10:47, Mike Foskett wrote:
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Personally I'd argue that a form is not a means of displaying tabular
data, it's an input mechanism.
Er... Agreed.
I was of the opinion, perhaps incorrectly, that the form in question
was intended to input tabular data hence
? Surely each one needs
a label of some kind?
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of the object. Completely different things!
You can come up with as many ways to justify the use of layout tables
for forms, but it doesn't make it right!
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forms do?
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not wanting to order chips because they are
fattening and then eating half on mine instead. The intention is good,
but it doesn't make the calories go away :-)
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with blanks for the insertion of details or information
They seem distinctly different things to me.
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Justin Thorp wrote:
http://www.digital-web.com/articles/accessibility_from_the_ground_up/
I did a presentation on Accessibility the other night. If you're
interested, here are my lecture notes.
http://www.andybudd.com/presentations/skillswap05/accessibility/
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advantage, contact Google and complain. I've a friend who's a
professional SEO and one of the main things he and many of his
colleagues do is report dubious sites. If after a month or so nothing
has been done about it, then complain about it.
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to spam Google while hurting the more honest SEO's out there.
Now where did I put my list of keywords, my doorway pages and my
cloaking scripts?
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faster than
nested table layouts.
Turning that on it's head, what's left for a client to get excited
about?
Fats loading, accessible pages that Google will love. Supplier
independence, easier maintenance and faster time to market.
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explore all the
options.
:-)
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as XHTML strict. And I'm guessing they probably aren't
serving their pages up as XML so strictly speaking they are serving
their pages up as HTML anyway.
This kind of pettiness and misunderstanding of accessibility really
gets my goat.
It's a damn shame if you ask me ;-)
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Patrick H. Lauke wrote:
Sorry, ended up being a cyclic argument, but you see what I mean...and
*that's* what Andy meant (if I may be so bold as to make an educated
guess)
That's exactly what I meannt.
Go for your life :-)
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text site and contrast,
linarized tables etc. It worked fine on sites with a strict dtd.
However most of the sites I tested didn't have a dtd, throwing the
browser into quirks mode and screwing up my custom stylesheet.
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to change, or you end up building in issues due to the
fact that the prototype was built rapidly.
I tend to use low-fi wireframes then hi-fi prototypes, usually output
from the Phtoshop/Fireworks templates as regular table based HTML.
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they
have been changes, but sometimes it's easy to forget, especially as
most of the time it's not relay mission critical.
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Nancy Johnson wrote:
Is it true that the W3C has not done a spec for Flash? If that is so
why?
Because Flash is a proprietary product!
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stands that it's not theirs to write a spec for.
However If you can show me the W3C page that details the Java spec I
may change my mind :-)
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and assumptions.
Cheers
PS - your personal website is quite nice however, clean, crisp, and
the user
will have the same experience every time they visit, regardless of the
machine.
Yes, I must sort that out. About due for a redesign :-)
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is fine,
but the
site dropped off the radar when trying to test in anything else.
Um, do you mean that the site doesn't work in any other browser other
than Opera or Firefox? Can I ask what you tested it on?
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elaborate?
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in the not too
distant future to highlight interesting work.
However I do think that the site is about the text rather than
superfluous images, so we wanted to put the content at the forefront
of the site.
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with all the traffic from the
WSG :-)
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background of the navigation
items to
be clickable, not a biggy though.
Yes, I agree. A few people have mentioned this so its on the todo list.
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me know if those screenshots were prior to
the change, or if the problem is still there?
Sorry to be a pain
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Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:
BTW: can I keep/use those screenshots in case I want to write
something
about that old bug on my own site? They sure got the point through!
As long as you mention that we fixed the problem and provide a link
to the site, I don't see any problem with it.
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