Re: [WSG] will Eric Meyer�s C SS SCULPTOR put me out of job?

2007-08-27 Thread Chris Wilson
That's the same short sighted question asked when WYSIWYG editors were introduced. If something like this is making you fear for your career, you really need to reevaluate if you are even in the right feild let alone career. ***

Re: A: [WSG] Target Lawsuit - Please Make Yourself Heard

2007-10-03 Thread Chris Wilson
A private company should be able to do whatever the hell they like. Suit is without merit and frivolous. What's next, suing vehicle manufacturers for not providing a braille manual? I'm all for accesability, but there is no reason it should be mandated, and lack of is in no was discriminatory.

Re: A: [WSG] Target Lawsuit - Please Make Yourself Heard

2007-10-03 Thread Chris Wilson
Better yet, since not everyone can see, lets require all publications to include a braille copy, all musical artists to provide a written transcript of ever performance. That would of course be madness... Why should a different standard be applied to the web? On 10/3/07, russ - maxdesign [EMAIL

Re: A: [WSG] Target Lawsuit - Please Make Yourself Heard

2007-10-03 Thread Chris Wilson
... Cat On 10/3/07, Chris Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or do you think that your right to 'do what the hell you like' outweighs other people's right to be treated equally? Be treated equally? They have to CHOOSE to visit the site. So, because they want (want need)to do

Re: A: [WSG] Target Lawsuit - Please Make Yourself Heard

2007-10-03 Thread Chris Wilson
If you are going to argue for standards and accesability, follow your own advice first. Captain table layout over here. You don't even have alt tags on your images. Hypocritical aren't ya? Joe Ortenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.joiz.com

Re: A: [WSG] Target Lawsuit - Please Make Yourself Heard

2007-10-03 Thread Chris Wilson
bigeasyweb.co.uk ? There is no reason why an accessible site should cause blindness. On 10/3/07, Stuart Foulstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, October 3, 2007 11:18 pm, Chris Wilson wrote: I think my point is being missed entirely. I completely support standards and accesability

Re: A: [WSG] Target Lawsuit - Please Make Yourself Heard

2007-10-03 Thread Chris Wilson
No, not madness. Instead, it would be a good way to bring art to audiences that might not otherwise know it. Yes, but once you start applying that logic inside legislated rules of presentation and usage (which is the issue here, or will be), a site can no longer be the art the artist desires.

Re: A: [WSG] Target Lawsuit - Please Make Yourself Heard

2007-10-03 Thread Chris Wilson
As it happens, a Braille version of a publication is one of the least useful things you can do. In the UK only 2% of registered blind people read Braille. How many web users are disabled to the point of using screen readers (anyone using it by choice not by necessity doesn't count, that's their

Re: A: [WSG] Target Lawsuit - Please Make Yourself Heard

2007-10-03 Thread Chris Wilson
Oh, this mailing list has been stagnant for quite some time, needs a good argument if you ask me. :) *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe:

Re: A: [WSG] Target Lawsuit - Please Make Yourself Heard

2007-10-03 Thread Chris Wilson
Those are all well and good, but utterly useless in a global marketplace. Should I be under your countries guidelines? Mine? What if I'm international? All of them? What if country As guidelines are incompatible with country Bs... Or should legislation hinge on guidelines proposed, created, and

Re: A: [WSG] Target Lawsuit - Please Make Yourself Heard

2007-10-03 Thread Chris Wilson
Speaking of ' logical fallacy' On 10/3/07, Breton Slivka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These are some of the worst analogies I've ever seen. The target website is not a work of art, it's not a mountain, it's not a car, it's not a drive up ATM, it's not a building. Not to mention the slippery

Re: [WSG] Cost of Accessibility

2007-10-08 Thread Chris Wilson
McLaughlin, Gail G wrote: We always ask the client if they require that the site comply with accessibility. The response ranges from What is accessibility? to we'll worry about that later to No! So you build poor sites unless specifically told to build them to standards? Ouch.

Re: [WSG] CSS Help

2007-10-23 Thread Chris Wilson
Contrary to everything else put forth about the 'issue', this actually works... change #sidebar a:hover,.blogfoot a:hover{ border:1px solid #FFF !important; } to #sidebar li a:hover,.blogfoot a:hover{ border:1px solid #FFF !important; } add the li so it only applies to links inside the

Re: [WSG] CSS Help

2007-10-23 Thread Chris Wilson
Lex parsimoniae. Cheers. On 10/23/07, Chris Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris Wilson wrote: Contrary to everything else put forth about the 'issue', this actually works... that statement isn't correct because this also works: #sidebar .one-image a:hover { border: 1px

Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: [WSG] How to make DHML cover flash

2007-10-26 Thread Chris Wilson
Come off it. Under no circumstance has it ever cost us more to do it right than to do it poorly; shoddy workmanship always results in higher costs. If it is costing you too much to do it right, you are doing more than just your coding wrong. On 10/25/07, Michael Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [WSG] Re: worst site I've seen lately

2007-10-29 Thread Chris Wilson
I have to agree. Not everything has to be so damn usable that it has no visual flair, something that, sadly, tends to be the norm on this list. This is neat if only because it's quite unique. On 10/29/07, Olly Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/29/07, Rob Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [WSG] Best way to clear a float

2007-11-12 Thread Chris Wilson
Why not just use clearfix? On Nov 12, 2007 12:15 PM, David Hucklesby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:58:37 -0600, Likely, James A. wrote: Hello, I am curious to see how others clear floats. *Sometimes* I find this works: #parent {overflow: auto;} This does require