Re: [WSG] site feedback, please?

2004-11-04 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
john wrote: I'm about 95% done with my first XHTML/CSS site, and I'd like to get some feedback, if you don't mind. ... http://www.drzeus.net/redesign/cslewis/ Your thoughts (and encouragement *grin*) are most appreciated. Your page is nice and well worth a visit (that's the well earned

Re: [WSG] Well since everybody... NOW WITH URL

2004-11-04 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Kim Kruse wrote: Sorry... http://www.mouseriders.dk/ ... It seems today is check my page day so I wondered if you would like to check my page too. The products (produkter) is not done yet but the rest should work fine. Yes, it does - up to a point. Looked at the actual content (since I can read

Re: [WSG] Well since everybody... NOW WITH URL

2004-11-05 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Kim Kruse wrote: I know about the site breaking when font is increased. It's because of the tabmenu (which is btw is crossbrowser and css only... no javascripts) I removed a menu item and now I can use largest fontsize in IE and increase the textsize to what looks like 30px fontsize to me

Re: [WSG] liquid layout and image sizes

2004-11-06 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Thorsten wrote: how do you guys tackle image sizes when using liquid layouts? to my knowledge, you can't really set relative sizes for images without indirectly cropping the image, right? You can treat images as any other element, or in combination with other elements. Clip, crop, overflow,

Re: [WSG] IE6 background image issue

2004-11-12 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: On 12 Nov 2004, at 4:17 pm, Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: IE 6 surprises me :/ http://dev.l-c-n.com/_j/head2.html A solution: ul {_display:inline-block} And IE 6 is beaten into submission. - Reading e-mail... - milking the cows... - feeding the herd... - killing an

Re: [WSG] Site Critique

2004-11-12 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Laurie Keith wrote: If any of you busy people have a spare 15 minutes, can you give me an honest evaluation on our new corporate web site. http://www.createwith.com Opera 7.54 on modem (44kb)... - I would have left after 30 seconds (while downloading) if this had been for real. - Looks like a

Re: [WSG] Site check please - launched it finally!

2004-11-13 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Michael Kear wrote: The size is already at 0.7em because I adopted the excellent suggestion of Hugh Todd and changed it. There is one flaw in how the font-size is implemented: IE/win is buggy if we apply too small font-size on body (less than 100%), and ems are buggy on body. The browsers own

Re: [WSG] Design template for CMS, any thougts?

2004-11-15 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Siteman DA - Bent Inge wrote: My goal is that the pages are accessible, SEO-friendly and that the design will be easy to change. I would really appreciate some quality feedback on this subject as the cms is suppose to be finished yesterday :-) The template is validated XHTML and CSS. The link to

Re: [WSG] Design template for CMS, any thougts?

2004-11-15 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Siteman DA - Bent Inge wrote: When it comes to target=_blank i agree with you, but I'm not sure the customers will. This is by the way, the only reason I use Transitional instead of Strict XHTML. As always; inform your customers-- and let them have it their way. They pay the bill...

Re: [WSG] problem with a layout

2004-11-17 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
patrik breitenmoser wrote: hi all, i tryed to make a website with css. i became the layout from a friend of mine. the problem know is, that i think it's not that easy to do it in css. i started the page and tested it in safar. everything lookt ok. but all other browsers escpecali ie/pc it looks

Re: [WSG] forcing IE6 into quirks mode

2004-11-17 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Terrence Wood wrote: Does anyone on this list deliberately force IE6 into quirks mode? Yes, always... :) I have seen this done on a couple sites (ok...one), where the site has a comment in the first line before the doctype ( = quirks mode ).the notion of doing this seems attractive at first

Re: Usability dogma's [was Re: [WSG] Font size]

2004-11-18 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Jeroen Visser [ vizi ] wrote: I don't know why there's this 'designers who reduce browser base font size are evil' attitude. I go with Owen Briggs, who relates browser default size to general OS GUI elements' font size. No problem with that, other than the fact that we see those tiny text-bits

Re: [WSG] help with z-index?

2004-11-18 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
john wrote: Now, I'm having a bit of a brain fizzle and I can't figure out how to prevent the text from being seen inbetween the buttons when I scroll. Once the text reaches the bottom of the buttons, I want it to disappear...but for the life of me, I can't figure out. Perhaps I've been working

Re: [WSG] forcing IE6 into quirks mode

2004-11-18 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Jeroen Visser [ vizi ] wrote: Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: I know of no limitations in IE6 when doing this, and it saves some coding too. The improved box-model isn't reason enough to debug several versions of IE/win. IE/win can be made to almost behave like a good browser should-- in quirks mode

Re: [WSG] forcing IE6 into quirks mode

2004-11-18 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Patrick Lauke wrote: Anyway, if the whole quirks mode thing is only used to throw IE into the old box model, why not simply circumvent the problem by not using padding? If that _was_ the only difference that caused problems, yes I would go along with that. You are describing the solution I use

Re: [WSG] forcing IE6 into quirks mode

2004-11-19 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Jeroen Visser [ vizi ] wrote: Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: I don't belong to the group of screaming developers. Hi Georg, Sorry for this misunderstanding --I didn't mean to group you in any way. It's just that I was a bit amazed about your view when in general, the web standards 'society' regards IE

Re: [WSG] forcing IE6 into quirks mode

2004-11-20 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Iain Harrison wrote: Hello Gunlaug, Saturday, November 20, 2004, 12:05:19 AM, you wrote: IE6 should be seen as an obstacle from a users point of view, as well as from a web designer's position. I'm not a user and I don't design for IE6 either. Although I think I agree with you, the reality is

Re: [WSG] forcing IE6 into quirks mode

2004-11-20 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Wayne Godfrey wrote: I find your take on all this very interesting as it is my mindset to try and find the happy medium that you seemingly are now accomplishing. I was wondering if you can give links to some of your sites and/or to some of the discussions on css-d. The thread should tell that I

Re: [WSG] Convincing usability/standards arguments

2004-11-21 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Nick Lo wrote: I think Felix has put in a lot of time and effort with his work at... http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/auth/wauth1.html ...and I found a lot of his demonstrations useful. I'd like to add my name under that comment. Have visited his site a number of times over the last couple of months,

Re: [WSG] Site review - torresburriel.com

2004-11-22 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Daniel Torres Burriel wrote: Hi all! I'd like you to review my personal site. All pages validate (I think) except the weblog section, under PMachine engine. http://www.torresburriel.com Look out for the top section and those images... Absolute positioning there makes the page unreadable upon

Re: [WSG] optimising CSS?

2004-11-26 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
john wrote: I'm just wondering if there's a service available that optimises stylesheets. I know I have redundancies and some junk code in my CSS, and I'd love to have it streamlined. Any thoughts? I don't think there are software capable of doing any _real_ clean-up in CSS-- yet. Have heard

Re: [WSG] How exactly does IE fall short and where do I find standards-compatibility charts?

2004-11-29 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Terrence Wood wrote: kkk!! Are you saying that expressions in CSS don't work with IE6 SP2??? And, What does H.S. mean? Reports indicate that IE-expressions on my pages fall short in IE6, 5.5, 5.0 in XP-SP2 with High Security setting. H.S. = High Security. I can't test this, as I don't

Re: [WSG] Help with a layout

2004-11-30 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Matt wrote: 1. If I add content to the left or right columns, the footer doesn't push down, and the content overlaps - the layout breaks. I would like for all 3 columns to be the same height, no matter which one has more or less content. All you need is to add clear: both; to #Footer. That is

Re: [WSG] new msn search engine

2004-12-01 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Joey wrote: You mean this? http://beta.search.msn.com/ Yeh this is ALMOST valid well its nice to know they are validating their code. Ted Drake wrote: those crafty MSN folks. Who knows what is up their sleeves. !--[if gte IE 5] do make wonders too, doesn't it? Why didn't they wrap everything

Re: [WSG] Site check please (especially Mac)

2004-12-01 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Seona Bellamy wrote: Any PC users who want to look and give opinions would also be appreciated. :) The site: http://www.onehouseproductions.com/ohp2/ You should try a better positioning-method for that curved menu. The items leave the curved background-image and ends up all over the place upon

Re: [WSG] Site check please (especially Mac)

2004-12-01 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Seona Bellamy wrote: Hmm... Any suggestions about how I could better do it so that it stays put? I would have thought that absolute positioning with the coordinates given in px would have been fairly static. :( I'm not sure what else to try. You are relative-positioning those links inside an

Re: [WSG] No skipping to content needed?

2004-12-04 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Ben Curtis wrote: Content as in stuff, not satisfied. A lot of people put an in-page anchor at the top to skip navigation or skip to main content. Are there any hidden gotchas with simply putting the navigation last and positioning it first? All I have been able to interpret about proper

Re: [WSG] New Windows

2004-12-06 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Paul Novitski wrote: At 11:11 AM 12/6/04, Felix Miata wrote: Fresh meat: http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20041206.html Yes, but only 605 respondents?! Yikes, that's a small sample. Nielsen's results, satisfying as they are to one allergic to commercialism, would carry more weight if the sample

Re: [WSG] float and table width combination problem in IE

2004-12-07 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Cade Whitbourn wrote: Can anyone help me identify what's going wrong with the following layout in IE6/Windows. I've been struggling with it all morning, and I suspect there may be a simple fix that I've just overlooked. The page: http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~cadewhitbourn/test/demo.htm The

Re: [WSG] link rel not working. @import ok!

2004-12-15 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Brett Walsh wrote:: I thought there might be a restriction on the number of sheets allowed. Is there? The number of stylesheets is obviously not the problem in your case, but maybe someone like to know... Don't know of any standard limit, but I tested it a while back. - 50 link rel= / no problem

Re: [WSG] Cross browser background-position

2004-12-15 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Jonathan T. Sage wrote: Alright, so, I am out of ideas... ... My problem is that IE/Win does not support background-position: fixed in the same way that gecko does (or at all maybe?) not sure which browser 'get's it right' here, but the desired effect is the one in firefox. anyway, would

Re: [WSG] Float problem (perhaps) in IE 5 on www.mccn.org.au

2004-12-15 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Nick Lo wrote: I've just released... http://www.mccn.org.au/ ...and realised a little late that some last minute tweaks (possibly) have thrown out the Stay Informed column on the home page in PC IE 5. Some stuff in there widens the column in IE5/win. For a start, take out (or hack) the width:

Re: [WSG] Checking in as many browsers as possible

2004-12-19 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
David R wrote: Wong Chin Shin wrote: ... and how in tarnation do some of you guys manage to maintain so many of them. Simple answer: I don't :) I use http://www.browsercam.com, its got practically every UA and platform under the sun, the Remote Access feature is particularly useful Browsercam

Re: [WSG] expand divs height with content

2004-12-20 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Jeffery Fernandez wrote: I am trying to get a Div to expand its height when the content grows. Site development url is http://www.hotshot.com.au/dev/fpaa/ This: http://www.positioniseverything.net/easyclearing.html , or any other clearing-method, should fix that problem. BTW: IE6 won't display

Re: [WSG] Display Differences

2004-12-23 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Lori Leach wrote: I always code my CSS and check it in Firefox. I have added the box hacks to my CSS to fix it for IE5 and IE6 - but now it is just a bit off in my right column using Firefox. I have been racking my brain trying to figure what I could have that is wrong in here. Can someone

Re: [WSG] CSS alignment issues

2004-12-26 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Tatham Oddie wrote: ... As for making the whole world FF-users, if you visit my site from any other browser soon you will be redireted via this page: http://www.e-oddie.com/sydneylife/GetFirefox.aspx Hopefully that should get some more users switching. Be careful with that any other browser -

Re: [WSG] CSS alignment issues

2004-12-26 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Tatham Oddie wrote: Not sure what you mean by: then your name will end up on the wrong list. Besides that, I'm a reasonably active Firefox evangelist, not just a standards evangelist. I'm tossing up on allowing other standards compliant browsers and it will probably end up heading that way

Re: [WSG] Browser Check - such inconsistencies!

2004-12-28 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Lori Leach wrote: http://www.zenfulcreations.com/sites/sss/ http://www.zenfulcreations.com/sites/sss/c/global.css So - can I get a double check on the ones that appear to work okay, and some possible direction on what I need to do to get it to work right in the ones that don't... I really

Re: [WSG] Please Check Menu / PC user

2005-01-06 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
berry wrote: That way I am sure that the font and the design will be always be the same with different resolution. That way user don't have to enlarge windows. The design will be always a the good size. http://www3.sympatico.ca/berryf/Template2.htm I'm sorry, but you cannot rely on

Re: [WSG] G* addressing standards

2005-01-07 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
russ - maxdesign wrote: I'd put the question back to the group... Rather than ask why should I not use pixels, as there is nowhere that forces me not to, why not ask how can I make my content as accessible to the widest audience possible. If you ask this question, then right now, with the

Re: [WSG] G* addressing standards

2005-01-07 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] wrote: G.S: Two factors creates this accessibility-problem with pixel-defined text: - Web designers in general don't know that IE/win can *override* font sizes. - Users in general don't know that either. The technical side of it: IE/win has ignore font size...

Re: [WSG] CSS Roundbox

2005-01-11 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Lori Leach wrote: It works super well, unless you have as much content as I have on the page I have it on! Then the right side repeats. None the less, he has done more than I could have asked for and I am very grateful! I hope others get to use this too~ Just had a go at it, with a few changes.

Re: [WSG] problems fitting content in third column in IE win

2005-01-15 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Bruce Gilbert wrote: http://www.echs.dpsnc.net/testing/html/public_affairs.htm. the problem I am having is in IE Win, the text in the third column (on the right) is not fitting inside the column borders. I originally tested using firefox,... A few things: - A lot of margins and paddings,

Re: [WSG] Problem getting this layout to behave

2005-01-17 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Kim Kruse wrote: http://mouseriders.dk/thierry/ 1. I can't get the #inner div to line up with the tab menu above in any of the above browsers. #inner { width:660px; margin-right:auto; margin-left:auto; background-color:#FFF; padding-top: 1px; /* note */

Re: [WSG] IE clearing when not needed

2005-01-18 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Lyn Patterson wrote: www.westernwebdesign.com.au/host.html Have a floated box that I want to sit inside and overhang another box. This works fine in FF and Opera but IE is clearing the normal box and putting it underneath the floated box. How do I make this work in IE? You can make it work -

Re: [WSG] IE clearing when not needed

2005-01-18 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Lyn Patterson wrote: Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: You can make it work - partially at least - by removing div class=intro from the unnatural flow in IE/win through style-changes. That is negative back-side margins on floats - for short... :) Thanks, Georg - before I received your reply I kept

Re: [WSG] Where is my navbar?

2005-01-19 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Lori Leach wrote: I have a CSS Drop Menu navigation on the following page - I can see it in FF but not in IE. http://www.zenfulcreations.com/client-files/gu/ IE/win need a HasLayout hack. @media all { * html mainMenu {height: 0;} } ... at the end of your stylesheet, will bring the menu up on

Re: [WSG] Where is my navbar?

2005-01-19 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Lori Leach wrote: Georg, I added that to the bottom, and the menu is appearing at the top now, but my submenus are wrong in IE. Just continue, using this... ul li.menubar {position: relative;} ...which will put the submenus in the right place. If IE/Mac don't like this (as I can't test that one

Re: [WSG] empty named anchors

2005-01-19 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Focas, Grant wrote: Empty link elements are not good (as Patrick pointed out)but what about named anchors (destination anchors)? Is there any reason why they should not be empty? I'm typically using anchors like this one: a id=item_1 name=item_1/a, and can't see the need to fill them. As Kornel

Re: [WSG] Brazilian Portal site Review. Opinions Welcomes

2005-01-19 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Genau Junior wrote: I would appreciate all comments and suggestions about interface, design and usability standards. The temporary address is: http://meucarronovo.locaweb.com.br Hmmm, give it one click of font-resizing in Firefox, and it lines up nicely down the page. One more clearer would help

Re: [WSG] Review of website please

2005-01-20 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Miles Burke wrote: We've just launched our new website, having had a quick CSS learning curve over the last few months, and would love opinions/feedback/criticism of it. Everything is game - let me know it all, no matter how bad. :) Please have a gander at http://www.bam.com.au The page looked

Re: [WSG] Floating to left and/or right...

2005-01-23 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Alex Katechis wrote: Hi all, this is my first shot at a tableless XHTML/CSS design and its turning out better than I thought... Everything is going according to plan, _except_ for one minor detail that is making a big difference. This _is_ one of the most difficult details in web design based

Re: [WSG] Comment before the DOCTYPE?

2005-01-23 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Maxine Sherrin wrote: I'm going through all the templates which came from our design competiton which will be used in Style Master 4, knocking them into shape. I've found one which puts a comment *before* the DOCTYPE declaration. And of course, when you remove this comment the layout breaks in

Re: [WSG] Nav Before or After Main Content

2005-01-24 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Michael Wilson wrote: My question at this point is: which is a better approach--nav first with a skip to content link or nav last with a skip to nav link? I'm inclined to think putting the nav last or at least after the main content is better for screen readers and such as well as for SEO, but I

Re: [WSG] Web site review please

2005-01-25 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
John Britsios wrote: Please see here: http://www.webnauts.net/ Had a look around with Opera7.54, FF1.0 and IE6. The page looks fine when I don't stress anything. I like the font a bit larger though, and your pages are a bit weak when I step it up. It simply looks a bit strange when I use larger

Re: [WSG] Image alignment and text

2005-01-25 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Chris Taylor wrote: Is there a CSS equivalent for the age-old image properties 'align=left' and 'align=right'. When these are used any text that is next to the image is automatically lined up with the top of the image. The way we usually do it looks more like this: style img{ float: left; }

Re: [WSG] Browser Checks

2005-02-07 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Paul wrote: This is more of a general standards question, but if you are designing a page for the public in general (in my case a university) at what point ( % wise _or_ # of browsers) do you say 'Okay this is the site, no more trying to accommodate obscure browsers/older versions of browsers.

Re: [WSG] Site Review...

2005-02-08 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
David R wrote: http://www.w3bdevil.com/scripts/ - Check z-index on the headline. Left side link Home is overlapping bottom of W3b's ... in Opera. Fine in FF and IE-win - *All* text with relative font-size for IE-win, please? - Otherwise: just fine. http://www.w3bdevil.com/turkeys/ - No problems

Re: [WSG] Why DO floats not stretch their containers?

2005-02-10 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
John Horner wrote: * floated elements too big for the enclosing element spill out * except on IE, where they stretch the enclosing element that's a bit simplified, but essentially correct, right? Right. For instance, with this code: div style=width:300px;height:100px;border:1px solid black;

Re: [WSG] Why DO floats not stretch their containers?

2005-02-10 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Josh McDonald wrote: Sorry, I can't test my statement here, so if I am wrong please correct me, but as far as I remember taking out the set height (or min-height) of Div B will reduce Div A to 0 height. Floating Div B has got a similar effect to giving position:absolute - Div A will ignore the

Re: [WSG] Why DO floats not stretch their containers?

2005-02-11 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Andreas Boehmer wrote: Can you give an example of where standard-compliant browsers expand the outer container with a float as content? I believe Roger pointed to the almost perfect example: http://www.complexspiral.com/publications/containing-floats/ Myself, being a heavy user of floats,

Re: [WSG] accessibilty and responsibility

2005-02-11 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Alan Trick wrote: Ok, I see your point here, but I'm the web designer for a company. Most of our customers probably wouldn't know what a 'browser' is and think that the 'e' is the is only way to 'download the internet'. I can't simply forget my customers browsers without alienating them as

Re: [WSG] linking to style sheet - how best?

2005-02-17 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
J. DesGeorges wrote: I am wondering what is the consensus for calling a style sheet. The @import rule or the link href method ... I am confused as to the merits of both. If you can point me to a resource that discusses this issue I would really appreciate it. This might help:

Re: [WSG] Having trouble understanding floats and clear - and a few other minor issues

2005-02-20 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Rosemary Norwood wrote: I've been trying to get the banner for my site set up the way I would like. The design is here: http://www.blackwork.com/access/access_lesson2_page1.html The CSS is lessons.css in the same directory. It may not look like it, but h1 occupy the whole line. Set

Re: [WSG] Having trouble understanding floats and clear - and a few other minor issues

2005-02-20 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Rosemary Norwood wrote: BTW: you have triggered IE/win's extreme font-step bug. ... Did a search on Google and in the archives for references for this bug but couldn't find any. Could you point me to a resource (or even describe what it is so I can play with a solution for myself)? It's easier

Re: [WSG] IE problem at small window size

2005-02-28 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Rachel Campbell wrote: I have a problem with IE at small window size (640 x 480) when the content of the page gets shunted underneath the menu bar on the left. You should be able to see it happening on http://actemp.sipu.apu.ac.uk/timetabling/camb/ttindex.phtml A large enough negative back

Re: [WSG] IE problem at small window size

2005-02-28 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Rachel Campbell wrote: http://actemp.sipu.apu.ac.uk/timetabling/camb/ttindex.phtml I've just noticed that this fix makes #footer come up the page; unfortunately it needs to stay at the bottom of the page, below #leftcolumn. Any ideas as to how that can be achieved? div#columns {min-height:

Re: [WSG] overflow: hidden not working...

2005-03-07 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Chris Stratford wrote: WHY doesn't my forum table Clip the large image? Where do I need the overflow: hidden??? Doesn't work on a table. A table will expand by default, and no style can prevent that-- at least not in any browser I've tested in. The only solution that'll work for you, is something

Re: [WSG] overflow: hidden not working...

2005-03-07 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Susanne Jäger wrote: Try adding: table.posts {table-layout: fixed;} http://www.w3.org/TR/2003/WD-CSS21-20030915/tables.html#propdef-table-layout I checked it with the edit styles-Bookmarklet and it works in Mozilla 1.8b, I'm not sure about cross-browser support. It does indeed work in FF 1.0,

Re: [WSG] overflow

2005-03-08 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
john wrote: I've never used overflow before, but I'm experimenting with possibly using it as a means to contain a product listing within a page design (essentially keeping the page itself relatively short, but having the product listing scrolling within one of the divs). My question is...since

Re: [WSG] Float help

2005-03-14 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Keith Ellis wrote: http://techvisioneer.com/clients/wshein/demo/admin/test/NewDesign.htm I have a fairly simple header/content/footer layout except the height of the logo in the header is greater than the desired height of the header itself. My goal is to have the logo fixed in the upper left

Re: [WSG] Re: Float help

2005-03-14 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Keith Ellis wrote: Georg, I haven't tested this yet since I'm at the day job right now but why would I need the margin style? Yes, that's what makes the whole thing work-- once you've made the changes to your html-code. Those margins are repositioning the div back to where it is in your original.

Re: [WSG] style attribute depreciated in xhtml 1.1?

2005-03-15 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Alan Trick wrote: I just found you that the style attribute is depreciated in xhtml 1.1. Does this mean that it will eventually be obolete? If so, what do they expect us to do for inline styles because it doesn't always make sense to have everything in an external style sheet. Well, unless

Re: [WSG] help with IE 3-pixel bug

2005-04-03 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Gallagher, Robin wrote: http://home.vicnet.net.au/~persia/final/test.html The background image in the floated right column is being affected by the IE 3-pixel bug. I would go for the simplest solution: #rightColumn {_width:202px;_margin-left: -2px;} ...that'll fix IE6. Then I would try a proper

Re: [WSG] position:absolute in IE

2005-04-04 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Alan Trick wrote: That's what I had, but AFAIK, you can't have the page resize to fit the viewport without absolute/fixed positioning (unless you use a screwy js hack). If you could prove me wrong I would be very greatful. Personally I dislike absolute positioning. David Laakso wrote: Looks

Re: [WSG] position:absolute in IE

2005-04-05 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Thierry Koblentz wrote: Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_1.html Basically it is this: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/negativemargins/ This technique uses negative margins too, but does not require structural hacks for clearing, and I believe it has better browsers

Re: [WSG] position:absolute in IE

2005-04-05 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Thierry Koblentz wrote: Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: http://www.gunlaug.no/homesite/main_7_b.html Hi Georg, You're floating the right column and you have a few structural hacks for clearing in there. Did you try without floating it? I had much better result that way. Then, the *only* browser

Re: [WSG] IE, margin: 0 auto - does work???

2005-04-08 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Chris Stratford wrote: Sorry I should also say that the text-align in the parent element is NO center. Thats why I am so suprised its working! But IE seems to understand margin: 0 auto; IE6 always has -- when in standard mode. regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no

Re: [WSG] link one style sheet from another

2005-04-13 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Kvnmcwebn wrote: Is it ever helpful to link one style sheet from another using @ import? It may save you from having to link in additional stylesheets from each of maybe a hundred pages or more. It really depends on how you organize your stylesheets and your sites. I always @import extra

Re: [WSG] Quirks mode vs Standards mode

2005-04-14 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Sarah Peeke (XERT) wrote: I am interested in people's thoughts about using quirks mode (ie adding ?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8? before the doctype) vs standards mode. Think we had a similar discussion a few months back... It is recommended to use the xml-prolog with xhtml1.0, and it _is only_

Re: [WSG] Problem with floating heights

2005-04-15 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ive made a little demo site, that shows my problem clearly http://www.tres.dk/test I want the container div to follow the heights of the floating elements, #left and #right In Internet Explorer it does, but not in Firefox, Opera, Safair or any other browser. The height

Re: [WSG] Quirks mode vs Standards mode

2005-04-15 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
russ - maxdesign wrote: How about correct rendering of the box model? I'm aware of the box-model issue. That's why I linked to a W3C-page where this is explained in simplest terms. http://www.w3.org/International/articles/serving-xhtml/ Now, my question again - rephrased: are there anything IE6

Re: [WSG] Quirks mode vs Standards mode

2005-04-15 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
designer wrote: ... Not sure what it is you're looking for . . . Basically everything that differs so much between standard and quirks mode in IE6 that using standard mode results in less code and simpler and more robust solutions than using quirks mode. -- Kornel Lesinski wrote: Right-aligned

Re: [WSG] zindex

2005-04-15 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Alan Trick wrote: Hi, I've been playing around with positioning and z-index and I'm wondering if it is possible to give a containing box higher z-index that it's children. As far as I have been able to tell, ( in firefox/opera ) it doesn't work. I have a ul with a background:transparent

Re: [WSG] Quirks mode vs Standards mode

2005-04-16 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Foster, Raymond W wrote: Also, IE6's handling of keyword font sizes in standards mode is consistent with other modern browsers. IE6 in quirks mode (and IE 5.5) renders keyword-defined font sizes a step larger than most other browsers. Yes, IE6 handle a few things _differently_ in standard and

Re: Subject: Re: [WSG] Quirks mode vs Standards mode

2005-04-16 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Tim White wrote: ... It looked almost like the 3px jog bug, but since I wasn't using boxes, floats and the like that wasn't it. Thanks Tim. (no further details needed :-) ) Have a few cases in my internal archive that sounds like that one. Some of these cases are solved by changing mode, but that

Re: Subject: Re: [WSG] Quirks mode vs Standards mode

2005-04-17 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
David Laakso wrote: On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 07:04:57 +0200, Gunlaug Sørtun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IE6 will go into quirks mode if there's anything above the DTD in our source-code. We may put a comment or whatever up there at the top, but I use an ***xml prolog***. Yes, there's an error

Re: [WSG] Quirks mode vs Standards mode

2005-04-17 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Richard, you wrote: I think the decision has more to do with maximising the expectation that your design will appear the same on any browser than to do with the features that are available. Also allowing that expectation to continue as standards and browsers move forward and browsers implement

Re: [WSG] Skip Navigation Visibility

2005-04-18 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
InfoForce Services (Angus MacKinnon) wrote: This brings up a question. How effective are Skip navigation links? I have heard that half the people do not understand what skip navigation links are. I design web sites to get to the main content or with very few links until the main content. I'm in

Re: [WSG] UTF-8

2005-04-18 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Anders Nawroth wrote: What characters needs encoding into numeric entities when using UTF-8? I try to avoid entities with exception for ' Look for some answers here: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/Unicode.html ...so I don't have to give incomplete answers about something I'm not an

Re: [WSG] device independence

2005-04-18 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Rachel Radford wrote: Is there a web site or an accurate way of 'testing' websites on PDA's and cell phones if you don't have access to them? Not really. Too many non-standards around... There is a real standard: 'media handheld', but support for it is sketchy to non-existent for most

Re: [WSG] IE three pixel bug has beaten me

2005-04-18 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] wrote: This is the second time I am coming across the IE three pixel bug, but this time it really got me: Only temporarily... http://www.addictivemedia.com.au/clients/gta/home2.html Try killing a float-bug with a float: #home_right {margin: 0; float: left;} ...

Re: [WSG] UTF-8

2005-04-19 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Dean Jackson wrote: The only time I use them is when I'm on a keyboard/system where I don't know how to enter the character, such as å. I'd type aring; in this case. PS. Hopefully the W3C i18n guru Richard is listening and will tell everyone if I'm wrong. I'll second that... Can someone actually

Re: [WSG] UTF-8

2005-04-19 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Jan Brasna wrote: - Half of the Norwegian sites I visit in a day are full of question-marks--until I actively change encoding, and change it again, and again... Hmm, we here in CZ use Latin2 or CP1250, everyone uses proper charset headers, so no problem with this. You hit one of the usual

Re: [WSG] To float or not to float

2005-04-25 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Hope Stewart wrote: ... What, if any, are the advantages and/or disadvantages of (1) floating neither column compared to (2) floating one column? Sample CSS: ... Absolute positioning of larger parts of a page, is *not* recommended. Only elements with fixed dimensions, in an environment of fixed

Re: [WSG] Re: [Repost] 4 px gap in Safari and Gecko based browsers

2005-04-25 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
tee wrote: Sorry, realized I got the url wrong. Here is the right one: http://www.clients.lotusseeds.com/catering_new.html Simple fix: #intro {line-height: 0;} Note also: LOCATION is too high up in Opera. Some adjustments needed to top of that list. regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no

Re: [WSG] Firefox bug?

2005-04-29 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
designer wrote: I have been trying to produce a gallery thing without using a table, and my test file has four images in a vertical column. It all seems fine, except in FF1.0, where the second and fourth images display several dashed lines across the image.

Re: [WSG] what ie bug is this?

2005-04-29 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Kvnmcwebn wrote: What ie windows 6 bug creates relics like the ones at the bottom of the boxes in the central column of this page? http://mcmonagle.biz/OTI/INDEX3.HTM Countless bugs in IE6, but I think this is a human bug / coding error. There may be one or more misplaced /div in your

Re: [WSG] Firefox bug?

2005-04-30 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
designer wrote: Perhaps you are right and I should ignore it. However, it is unsightly, as you can see if you look at the jpg screen grab I've put at: http://www.treyarnon.fsworld.co.uk/wg/FFbug.jpg I see, but that's Firefox messing up the /background on top of background/. I couldn't see that

Re: [WSG] Fake Horizontal Frames Layout

2005-04-30 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Peter J. Farrell wrote: I'm newer to CSS then I'd like to admit, but I was wondering if it is possible to create a layout that consists of three content areas (Think about a 3-column layout turned 90 degrees). You've got plenty of fun waiting for you up the CSS-road. :-) Something like:

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