Re: [WSG] Strange problem

2005-03-10 Thread Ingo Chao
designer schrieb: www.sheltielife.co.uk ... However, one lady has contacted my wife because she 'can't see the gallery'. She just can't access your left frame when javascript is disabled. In FF, choose Tools/Options/Content/, and disable JavaScript, to see. I think this is a problem of your

Re: [WSG] IE div problem

2005-03-16 Thread Ingo Chao
Robin Campbell Joy schrieb: The problem is within the header, where a div gets bigger than it should. If i take the header image out of the code, the div renders correctly. Site: http://www.andrewjoy.com/newsite/ #header img {display: block;} should fix that. regards, Ingo

Re: [WSG] Site Review - coylemedical.com

2005-03-17 Thread Ingo Chao
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Thank you Peter for the quick response and heads-up! I'm puzzled because I'm using Windows XP Home edition and checked the site in IE 6 and FF 1.0, and the logo isn't skewed. I'm using absolute positioning for the logo, therefore if any of the many WSG experts can

Re: [WSG] Site Review - coylemedical.com

2005-03-17 Thread Ingo Chao
Ingo Chao schrieb: And this may cause the drop of the right column-float under the content when the viewport is sized wide enough. Sorry, maybe this effect is not reproduceable on your font/screen/cache settings, so here is a screenshot of the drop in IE6 http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/tmp

Re: [WSG] Not sure what IE Hack to us

2005-03-17 Thread Ingo Chao
Jenny Francois schrieb: I'm having issues with the right column on my site (http://www.aekituesday.com) in IE. The text aligns too much on the right It's a pain to debug such huge generated pages :) A simplified testcase would be nice. Anyway, some of the problems started at Tuesday, February 22.

Re: [WSG] disappearing bullet in opera 7 when using floating image

2005-03-24 Thread Ingo Chao
Gerard Copinga schrieb: when I put a right floating image in an unordered bulleted list, then in opera 7.54 the list item holding the floating image doesn't show the bullet anymore. ul liItem 1/li liimg src=0_brailleleesregel_kleinst.jpg width=150 height=170 alt=Foto van een brailleleesregel

Re: [WSG] Crazy IE: background images

2005-04-01 Thread Ingo Chao
Piero Fissore schrieb: ... If you visit www.immaginecreativa.it/unipn with Firefox (Mozilla, Netscape, Opera, Safari or other GOOD browser) you can see beautiful pictures on the top of the page, under the principal navigation menu. If you visit that site with IE, those images won't be loaded! ...

Re: [WSG] CSS issues: Opera's absolute positioning

2005-04-11 Thread Ingo Chao
Patrick Lauke schrieb: Kornel Lesinski The funny thing is, that in my Opera 8b3/win your XHTML is pixel-perfect with original Firefox startpage, Interesting. In my copy of Opera 8 (can't remember which beta, but it's build 7401) I have the Advanced Search / Preferences to the right of the actual

Re: [WSG] CSS issues: Opera's absolute positioning

2005-04-11 Thread Ingo Chao
Patrick Lauke schrieb: I'm pretty sure it's a bug in (Win) Opera's absolute positioning implementation, but annoying nonetheless... would anybody be able to suggest a simple fix to get the advanced search/preferences list to align properly next to the input on my frugal google experiment

Re: [WSG] Someone who *wants* the peekaboo bug

2005-04-11 Thread Ingo Chao
John Horner schrieb: Not stupid at all, but I checked that and no, it's all happening via HTTP from a web server, no local paths involved. If it's not too much trouble, could we see an URL? Ingo ** The discussion list for

Re: [WSG] Client wants flashing text

2005-04-15 Thread Ingo Chao
Jamie Mason schrieb: 2 important points before I start... 1. Don't get me wrong, I don't want flashing text! 2. Don't get me wrong, I don't want flashing text! Thou shalt learn when to say 'no.' It's only a particular range of flashing speeds that trigger epillepsy isn't it? Its a wide

Re: [WSG] Unexpected padding (margin?) on right float

2005-04-18 Thread Ingo Chao
Cole Kuryakin - x7m schrieb: http://www.x7m.us/_clients/danielik/dev/testing/index.htm Somehow, some right-padding or right-margin has crept into the right side of the red outlined box in IE. #sideBar { margin: 25px 14px 25px 15px; padding: 0pt; width: 140px; float: right; display: inline; /*

Re: [WSG] To float or not to float

2005-04-25 Thread Ingo Chao
Hope Stewart schrieb: In my email, I was originally going to have a third option of floating both columns, but when I tested it in Safari the columns sat on top of one another instead of side-by-side. ...: #right { float: right right: 10px; width: 45%; border: 1px solid black;

Re: [WSG] help, please!!

2005-04-25 Thread Ingo Chao
Rachel Campbell schrieb: The problem is that the header doesn't always display at all on some pages, such as http://www.ely.anglican.org/parishes/camgsm/new_site/activities/music/index.html. There isn't a problem if you set IE's options to refresh on every visit to the page, but that's not

Re: [WSG] Re: [Repost] 4 px gap in Safari and Gecko based browsers

2005-04-25 Thread Ingo Chao
tee schrieb: Sorry, realized I got the url wrong. Here is the right one: http://www.clients.lotusseeds.com/catering_new.html Thanks for the URL. #intro object {display: block;} /* do not touch */ should fix it here. :) Objects are inline replaced elements like images, they sit on the baseline.

Re: [WSG] Re: [Repost] 4 px gap in Safari and Gecko based browsers

2005-04-25 Thread Ingo Chao
tee schrieb: Thanks Ingo. It fixed but create a new problem for IE 5.2 Mac. It doubles the space. http://clients.lotusseeds.com/ie5.jpg I know DW design view has display problem but this is something unusual as soon as I inserted your code to my css file: http://clients.lotusseeds.com/dw.jpg

Re: [WSG] divs are shrinking when i move my mouse over them in IE6, how can i fix this?

2005-04-27 Thread Ingo Chao
Jeroen Verburgh schrieb: I'm not really sure it has anything to do with the contents of the floating divs, because none of them move around. When I move my mouse over a hyperlink, then all floating divs following the one containing this link move a little. Maybe shrinking isn't the most accurate

Re: [WSG] Web Standards in Estonia

2005-04-28 Thread Ingo Chao
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: http://triin.net/2005/04/27/Web_Standards_in_Estonia (The page itself is in Estonian, but the referred article is for all of you, who for some strange reason don't speak the language, translated to English.) Hopefully the information will prove helpful for someone...

Re: [WSG] Two separate CSS issues

2005-04-28 Thread Ingo Chao
Stevio schrieb: Hi Bob, Thanks for the suggestion but it didn't work! Stefan's suggestion did not work either. Any other ideas anyone? Anyone know why a floated div is hidden in IE6? Stephen apply the Holly hack to #maincontent for an explanation http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/rpfloat.html when you

Re: [WSG] IE extra space; background not showing up; odd links

2005-04-29 Thread Ingo Chao
White Ash schrieb: Hello! I don't know why, but I'm having a time with my design in IE. Firefox and Netscape have no problem. The idea is that the content area would be flush top with the bottom of the background. There is a big space in IE. td {padding-top:0; padding-bottom:0;} Also, in IE,

Re: [WSG] ie bug - content disappears on hover

2005-04-29 Thread Ingo Chao
Drake, Ted C. schrieb: When you mouse over some of these divs, the content disappears and the background color appears. It's like you are erasing it in blocks. http://positioniseverything.net/explorer/guillotine.html In case it is not the guillotine, you could provide an URL to a simplified test

Re: [WSG] update - ie bug - content disappears on hover

2005-04-29 Thread Ingo Chao
Drake, Ted C. schrieb: I keep finding a solution in adding height:1% to various elements. This seems like a temporary fix. Can someone explain to me why the height:1% is needed and why it could sometimes cause background images to not display? height:1% will affect other browser too, say IEMac. So

Re: [WSG] another update - ie bug - content disappears on hover

2005-04-29 Thread Ingo Chao
Drake, Ted C. schrieb: ... I wish I could set up a generic example, but it would take me too long to do the entire page. I'll see if I can duplicate the issue with just the highlighted section. That would be a good approach. Here's an update. When I put height:1% on the hovers, the problem

Re: [WSG] Firefox bug?

2005-05-01 Thread Ingo Chao
designer schrieb: ... FF1.0, where the second and fourth images display several dashed lines across the image. (on the face of it, they are all the same) If I refresh the page the lines disappear, but on scrolling they come back again. http://www.treyarnon.fsworld.co.uk/wg/galleryv2.html cannot

Re: [WSG] Firefox bug?

2005-05-02 Thread Ingo Chao
Gene Falck schrieb: ... I just checked on the 269840 bug and it sounds as if it might be related to a nuisance problem I've been seeing in a huge local app (my work notes)... My problem isn't lines but rather an occasional vertical doubling of the background image I am using for LI bullets. The

Re: [WSG] disappearing element in page

2005-05-02 Thread Ingo Chao
Carl Reynolds schrieb: ... if I narrow the IE window enough that a horizontal scroll bar appears and refresh, or go to the page for the first time, the menu area (on the left) disappears. If I then widen the window far enough for the scroll bar to go away, the menu appears and remains visible,

Re: [WSG] disappearing element in page

2005-05-02 Thread Ingo Chao
Ingo Chao schrieb: Carl Reynolds schrieb: http://hyperbole-software.com/movie-buzz/ http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/tmp/disappearingcontent.html And I think the problem (the a. p. menu is disappearing in IE6 and IE5.5 on reload) is triggered when the floated div#center-layout's margin-left: any

Re: [WSG] Mystery connection of css and non-liquid design

2005-05-02 Thread Ingo Chao
Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] schrieb: Something I find really strange is that a lot of people who put emphasis on Web Standards suddenly found their way back to non-liquid, 800px, centered design. I am wondering why that is? Andreas, there is a long discussion with many comments in some

Re: [WSG] disappearing element in page

2005-05-03 Thread Ingo Chao
Carl Reynolds schrieb: Thanks Ingo for your responses. I spent the day yesterday looking at the things you suggested and at brunildo's site to see how they apply to my problem. I agree with you that it looks as if the problem arises when the browser thinks the total width of the page exceeds

Re: [WSG] hooked floating divs

2005-05-08 Thread Ingo Chao
Richard Lake schrieb: vary in size a little, particularly height. Scroll down to the Climbers Some of the images on this page: http://www.pricklypair.co.nz/products.php Vines or Perennials to see an example. All of the images are inserted in a floating div. When one of the floating divs in the

Re: [WSG] the mysteries of float - i seek enlightenment

2005-05-25 Thread Ingo Chao
Scott Reston schrieb: ... If I wrap the divs in one big div, I still see the same issue. The thing I'm most interested in, though, is the WHY? I want to understand the rule that I've run afoul of so that I can avoid it in the future. I'm not getting 'float drop' caused by a too-wide element

Re: [WSG] a elements and what they can contain

2005-05-26 Thread Ingo Chao
John Allsopp schrieb: I believe that, and all my reading leads me to believe that a elements may only contain other inline elements (not including a elements. Can anyone point me to the definitive part of the HTML spec that says this?

Re: [WSG] a elements and what they can contain

2005-05-26 Thread Ingo Chao
Ingo Chao schrieb: http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/struct/links.html#edef-A 12.2 The A element !ELEMENT A - - (%inline;)* -(A) -- anchor -- (%inline)* content: zero or more inline elements -(A) but no other A element You are right, there is no phrase visible to me that explicitely

Re: [WSG] the mysteries of float - i seek enlightenment too

2005-05-26 Thread Ingo Chao
While I was zooming the text-size in FF, I saw that one line of text partly overlaps the red float. http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/tmp/lineinfloat.html looks like the real browsers have some float bugs too. FFnightly20050525 WinXPSP2. Can this be confirmed on a Mac build? If this is a bug,

Re: [WSG] SOLVED the mysteries of float - i seek enlightenment too

2005-05-26 Thread Ingo Chao
Thierry Koblentz schrieb: What about this one? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41412 Yes. At the moment I got your mail, I got the same info from Bruno Fassino at css-d where I had moved the thread to. Thank you! the attachment

Re: [WSG] Where to start?: Need to make a really junk code page to standards-compliant

2005-05-30 Thread Ingo Chao
Jack Saat schrieb: I have a really Junk code page you can view on http://www.extraheight.com/ and need to make this code standards-compliant. But want keep the same layout minus of course the clear view problems. There is so much junk in the code and I do not know where to start. :( From the

[WSG] Do not open the DETECTED message cause it contains a virus/trojan

2005-05-31 Thread Ingo Chao
The message is in the public archives and not adressed to you. It contains a zip-file. This zip contains a htm-file, but in fact its a htmpif wich will infect you Windows computer * Delete the message. * regards, Ingo Chao

Re: [WSG] Style PRE with word wrap?

2005-05-31 Thread Ingo Chao
Vaska.WSG schrieb: Actually, because I can't really find a way to get by on the word-wrap issue and also the use of indents (as they appear in the code) I've done all of this in php without code or pre. It uses nbsp;'s for the tabs (preg_replace(/\t/...). ... If you are curious this is

Re: [WSG] inline-block support?

2005-06-01 Thread Ingo Chao
Kay Smoljak schrieb: On 5/31/05, kemie guaida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was sure that there was some major browser not implementing display:inline-block, but in a quick test firefox 1.03, Opera 7 8 and even IE 6 are interpreting it correctly... I've never really thought about it before,

Re: [WSG] problems with links

2005-06-06 Thread Ingo Chao
jackie reid schrieb: ... www.mackayports.com The problem is when viewed in firefox:... in the left hand column div class=whiteblock I can't stop the logo images from having an underline, its underlining the whole link. This construct does expand the link in some line-boxes, but the entire

Re: [WSG] FF Bug - Any Fixes?

2005-06-18 Thread Ingo Chao
Chris Stratford schrieb: ... I still see the errors - should I use Absolute values (px, not em) to define my margin/padding on those lists? Would that fix the problem? It's hard to test the rounding error in all OS, text zoom level, and different dpi-settings. Yes, px-fixed lenghts and

Re: [WSG] Background image alignment - percentages and scalable elements

2005-06-27 Thread Ingo Chao
Chris Taylor schrieb: I'm having difficult aligning a background image the way I want to. The markup is like this: div class=percent2019.65%/div ... Chris, I don't know if I got the problem right, but I think Zoe's article abut Creating Liquid Faux Columns [1] covers a lot of the theme:

Re: [WSG] transparency support

2005-07-06 Thread Ingo Chao
kvnmcwebn schrieb: hello, Is the png transparency tut on a list apart still the most up to date method? thanks I found, in addition to the ALA artcle (guess you mean http://www.alistapart.com/articles/pngopacity/) this article by Lloyd Dalton helpful

Re: [WSG] transparency support

2005-07-06 Thread Ingo Chao
kvnmcwebn schrieb: 'this article by Lloyd Dalton helpful http://www.daltonlp.com/daltonlp.cgi?item_type=1item_id=217' thanks, thats very clean. What do you think of the comment/example from stylo at the bottom of this page? http://www.alistapart.com/discuss/pngopacity/#c4812 Sorry, I don't

Re: [WSG] Strange IE behavious that doesn't make sense

2005-07-06 Thread Ingo Chao
tee schrieb: Here is the url: http://clients.lotusseeds.com/dojoprocedures.html Another page that is using the #preamble is 'Karate overview'. There should have a fist image next to 'Dojo' and 'Karate overview', but it's not there in PC IE 5.5/6. Sense? We still speak of IE, don't we?

Re: [WSG] Strange IE behavious that doesn't make sense

2005-07-07 Thread Ingo Chao
Nathan Rutman schrieb: Whenever a background is disappearing, try to give layout to the parent of the element via the Holly hack. What does that mean? You want to give a height:0 to the parent element? I don't get it... Holly Bergevin's hack is described in detail here:

Re: [WSG] Element Jump (IE) and Full Width Problems problem1

2005-07-08 Thread Ingo Chao
Nathan Rutman schrieb: http://www.solvepoint.com/design/sp4.2/ 1) (IE ONLY) When the page loads, the menu items are in the upper-left corner of the screen until used the first time, then they jump into place. I thought they needed layout and so assigned height attributes to all items

Re: [WSG] image height and width question which is better CSS or inline

2005-07-09 Thread Ingo Chao
Nathan Rutman schrieb: 4) Specifying height and width on images by default was a trend made popular in the late 90's, where slow-to-render table-based layouts were used (which relied heavily on images pushing the cells around to the correct size/location) and everyone was using dialup

Re: [WSG] Vertical align(center) for two rows of text

2005-07-09 Thread Ingo Chao
akella schrieb: I know that making HEIGHT and LINE-HEIGHT equal for text - will make ONE row valign:center. But what about 2 rows of text? Is there some way to align even two rows of text this way? You'll need a container of known height http://www.brunildo.org/test/vertmiddle.html Ingo

Re: [WSG] Vertical align(center) for two rows of text

2005-07-09 Thread Ingo Chao
Sorry, just noted that Bruno Fassino's explanation of the technique he developed can be better understood here: http://www.brunildo.org/test/img_center.html with a link to the text centering method I already mentioned. Ingo ** The

Re: [WSG] Getting in a muddle

2005-07-11 Thread Ingo Chao
designer schrieb: www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk/typotest.html and there you will see the effect working fine in IE6, FF1.0, Opera etc. But IE5.5, although it gets the colour right, h6:first-letter doesn't pick up the increase in size for the first letter. havent looked to deep in it, but

Re: [WSG] help or web standards group?

2005-07-11 Thread Ingo Chao
Please don't forget, while forking, to build a third mediocres/average list, for those who squint at being a guru and tend to forget the years they were soo newbie. or, alternatively: Raise the level of the input in this list by more quality postings and answers. The quality of the

Re: [WSG] clearfixing

2005-07-16 Thread Ingo Chao
Rowan Lewis schrieb: Or how about the much simpler more correct method? http://www.quirksmode.org/css/clearing.html the problems the OP had in IE5.5 can get worse when the overflow: hidden of the simple clearing meets the Holly hack in other bugfixes needed in this browser:

Re: [WSG] Pure CSS Pop-ups using images... but as background-images in span

2005-07-26 Thread Ingo Chao
Julián Landerreche schrieb: Now, I have understood the solution. I need to add a property to the a:hover rule. a:hover { border: none; } Voilà! Now it works in IE6... Weird, weird bug... Yes, that's weird. Maybe this http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/pseudocss.html#hoverdesc will be of

Re: [WSG] Site Check: Broadleaf - please close this thread

2005-07-26 Thread Ingo Chao
Mugur Padurean schrieb: Would you sent your client to war (for big bucks) with slow, clumsy outdated weapons from the 20th century? We shouldn't use war metaphors in a thread that has all qualities of an holy war. After reading all possible relevant and irrelevant objections, I would

Re: [WSG] background images fluid

2005-08-01 Thread Ingo Chao
Bruce schrieb: It will size according to the resolution. Stretch and shrink. Not stretching, not static, though: http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/wide.html Ingo -- http://www.satzansatz.de/css.html ** The discussion list for

Re: [WSG] background images fluid

2005-08-01 Thread Ingo Chao
Bruce schrieb: That's it!! Bruce, I didn't expect that this attempt works for you. You need a very big image, resulting in 25k. --- You can choose a focus of the picture, which determines the percentage-value for the background-position. This makes the image look fixed (here: x=30%),

Re: [WSG] background images fluid

2005-08-01 Thread Ingo Chao
Bruce schrieb: I guess I cannot communicate what I mean. ... I was wondering if an image would stretch as a background image in the stylesheet as a background. That's all. Ingo did a demo as a background image of a h1 tag. I thought that would work. Using the EXACT same code that he used, in

Re: [WSG] Align text vertically in a division

2005-08-10 Thread Ingo Chao
Rachel Radford wrote: Is there any other reliable way of mimicking the old-school valign for table layouts? I realy don't want to use hacky stuff or any javascript stuff cause already there is so much hacks just for IE!!! Unfortunately, no, there is no way without massive hacking. Bruno

Re: [WSG] Win IE hacks -- Please help!

2005-08-16 Thread Ingo Chao
Janelle Clemens wrote: I am uncomfortable with hacks and am trying to avoid them as much as possible. I really appreciate all the links and info on Win IE hacks that everyone has been giving but reading about how they work is not helping. I could really use an example of how to implement them.

Re: [WSG] Body text disappears in IE when window is maximised

2005-08-18 Thread Ingo Chao
Webmaster wrote: As promised I've been working away again creating a hack-free version of the Holy Grail 3-col layout. ... http://d81314.i50.quadrahosting.com.au/layout_test.htm I now ask the list's help in resolving a very odd and new bug to me. It only seems to occur in IE and happens when

Re: [WSG] IE, Ordered Lists and width on LI

2005-08-19 Thread Ingo Chao
Rachel Radford wrote: I’ve found that if I have an ol and a width specified through the css on the li that IE doesn’t actually number the list! They all turn up as number 1! Can someone explain why this would be… and does anyone know of a way around it? Dwain already provided a fix. We

Re: [WSG] IE Madness

2005-08-19 Thread Ingo Chao
Bob Schwartz wrote: On this page: http://www.fifeweb.org/wp/events/evnt_ga_res_2005_02.html I have a link at the bottom of the page (Back To Page One) which should send a visitor to: http://www.fifeweb.org/wp/events/evnt_ga_res_2005_01.html#top and it does in all the browsers I have tried

Re: [WSG] absolute positioning in IE

2005-08-28 Thread Ingo Chao
Anders Nawroth wrote: http://cms3.nawroth.com/testsidor/filer/testpage.html For disappearing a.p. boxes, see http://www.brunildo.org/test/IE_raf3.html Your testpage shows the problem listed as Example 1 The fix is to rearrange the html, or by inserting an empty box, see the subsequent

Re: [WSG] Tables - a challenge!

2005-09-08 Thread Ingo Chao
designer wrote: OK, I don't use tables, except for tabular data. I've been doing this standards stuff for for just one year and there is only one place where I use a table for layout, and that is to put something (div, or whatever) slap bang in the middle of the screen, both vertically and

Re: [WSG] Tables - a challenge!

2005-09-08 Thread Ingo Chao
Rimantas Liubertas wrote: 2005/9/8, Ingo Chao: ... For your specific dead center question, were the pure CSS path shows a very known CSS weakness in vertically centering content: ... A very known Internet Explorer weakness, I would say. Thanks. You are right. It's not CSS. Sorry

Re: [WSG] Tables - a challenge!

2005-09-09 Thread Ingo Chao
Christian Montoya wrote: http://www.jakpsatweb.cz/css/css-vertical-center-solution.html Does not work in MacIE. http://www.kriton.de/CSS/zentrieren/alle-zentriert.html would be another one. Tom Livingston wrote: http://www.wpdfd.com/editorial/thebox/deadcentre4.html Does need given

Re: [WSG] IE floating bug

2005-09-11 Thread Ingo Chao
Rowan Lewis wrote: http://www.pixelcarnage.com/development/evolt_lives See how the input element is pushed down and its surrounding paragraph element isn't? The input element is down the very bottom. I think this is the 3px txt jog [1] The sidebar/panel is a right float #panel { ...

Re: [WSG] IE Showing Transparent - APOLOGY

2005-09-17 Thread Ingo Chao
russ wrote you should warn members if you are providing a link that goes to questionable, offensive or adult content. Mani Sheriar wrote: But I do still need help with this issue if anyone can look past the questionable material. ;~) This list needs no ground rule like - Warning ...

Re: [WSG] IE Showing Transparent - APOLOGY

2005-09-17 Thread Ingo Chao
Rick Faaberg wrote: Where do we draw the line on these sites? The reason why this did not happen before on the WSG mail list is because no poster before did have problems in drawing a line for himself. We should not change this unwritten agreement. Ingo

Re: Censorship (was RE: [WSG] IE Showing Transparent - APOLOGY)

2005-09-17 Thread Ingo Chao
John Foliot, and Russ, good luck with the list. All the best. Bye. Ingo Chao -- http://www.satzansatz.de/css.html ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints