Re: [WSG] Popup 'box' on hover

2007-08-23 Thread Jason Grant
Or even this: http://www.cssplay.co.uk/menu/lightbox Regards, Jason www.flexewebs.com On 8/23/07, Spirit Q.9 Gaming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.cssplay.co.uk/menu/gallery_click Can you use this? On 8/23/07, Nick Roper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, A client would like

Re: [WSG] Using XLST to define microformats

2007-08-26 Thread Jason Grant
Hi Paul, Good question. I am working currently on tesco.com and this is one of the ongoing debates we have, inside W3C as well, as XSLT is used all over the place and we are trying to achieve maximum accessibility and so on. I am not aware that something 'standardised' exists on this matter as

Re: [WSG] Standards friendly 'page tagging' web stats

2007-08-26 Thread Jason Grant
Try this: http://www.google.com/analytics/ Hope its good. Regards, Jason www.flexewebs.com On 8/27/07, Paul Hempsall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, I'm investigating improving our current method of reporting our web traffic - we currently use server logs only (with an annual

Re: [WSG] Input tag - closing tag optional?

2007-11-25 Thread Jason Grant
Hi Dusan, Here are some of the unofficial guidelines I work with: div / will not work with IE in certain circumstances. It might give you some errors which you might find mind-bogglingly difficult to debug (i.e. very weird behaviour). div/div will behave much better, but (unless you have an ID

Re: [WSG] Fwd: using fieldsets and legends (outside a form) for adding structural markup

2008-05-20 Thread Jason Grant
Hello Julian, If you are unsure about what an HTML tag is there for, look up in the W3C specs. http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/interact/forms.html#edef-FIELDSET It is pretty clear to me there that fieldset element exists for the purpose of grouping form elements together, and not for other

Re: [WSG] Fwd: using fieldsets and legends (outside a form) for adding structural markup

2008-05-20 Thread Jason Grant
for making bold text. Regards, Svip 2008/5/20 Jason Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello Julian, If you are unsure about what an HTML tag is there for, look up in the W3C specs. http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/interact/forms.html#edef-FIELDSET It is pretty clear to me there that fieldset

Re: [WSG] Fwd: using fieldsets and legends (outside a form) for adding structural markup

2008-05-20 Thread Jason Grant
Hi Julian, strong is for emphasis. I am on your side on that one. divs are for separating components/sections of a page and can be semantically very strong, especially when given a meaningful class or id name (e.g. header, footer, contacts, product, etc.) fieldset however is quite specifically

Re: [WSG] Fwd: using fieldsets and legends (outside a form) for adding structural markup

2008-05-21 Thread Jason Grant
Hi Julian, One more subtle point here (after taking this discussion into the office with guys that work with me) a point was made today that within DOM fieldset is part of the form hence you cannot reference a fieldset through DOM unless it is inside a form, so it is definitely a wrong approach

Re: [WSG] Marking up company logo

2008-05-29 Thread Jason Grant
I am surprised that we are even discussing this topic here. This issue is mentioned in the last sentence of this blog post: http://www.flexewebs.com/semantix/?p=5 Please follow the link provided in there to W3C site which mentions what h1 is there for. Kind regards, Jason www.flexewebs.com --

[WSG] MA in web development

2008-06-11 Thread Jason Grant
to influence the feedback at this point. All suggestions are very much appreciated. Regards, Jason Grant www.flexewebs.com/semantix *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http

Re: [WSG] Firefox 3 candidate

2008-06-18 Thread Jason Grant
It will replace it even if you install into different directory. :-( Then it means you are not going to have your FireBug available to work with. FF3 is very nice and I am excited. Just can't wait for FireBug to become compatible with it as it is so crucial for us of course. Regards, Jason

Re: [WSG] Shopping cart - who does what

2008-08-14 Thread Jason Grant
Hello everyone, Will try to keep it simple. I have much experience of working on various e-commerce systems and know the following: 1. Serious e-commerce systems are very complex (i.e. Magento) 2. 90% of e-commerce systems are not accessible, let alone standards compliant 3. Even

Re: [WSG] labels as input wrappers + h6 in place of legend

2008-10-16 Thread Jason Grant
always used label arount input fields labeltext: input type=text //label without the for= attribute. I've never had problems with it, and I don't think I've ever seen any recommendation against it. Johan Douma [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008/10/16 David Dorward [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jason Grant wrote

Re: [WSG] labels as input wrappers + h6 in place of legend

2008-10-16 Thread Jason Grant
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Re: [WSG] labels as input wrappers + h6 in place of legend

2008-10-17 Thread Jason Grant
it is. As you get more advanced in this, the whole 'set' will get even more bloated. Enjoy your HTML forms 'discovery'. Cheers, Jason On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 5:50 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Jason Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Friday

Re: [WSG] labels as input wrappers + h6 in place of legend

2008-10-17 Thread Jason Grant
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Re: [WSG] labels as input wrappers + h6 in place of legend

2008-10-19 Thread Jason Grant
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[WSG] JS patterns

2008-12-07 Thread Jason Grant
appreciate feedback from people and comments on how to improve them even more. Needless to say that I am using and re-using these patterns and can highly recommend them. Regards, -- Jason Grant BSc, MSc CEO, Flexewebs Ltd. www.flexewebs.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] +44 (0)7748 591 770 Company no.: 5587469

Re: [WSG] JS patterns

2008-12-07 Thread Jason Grant
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tee Sent: Monday, 8 December 2008 12:37 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] JS patterns On Dec 7, 2008, at 4:34 AM, Jason Grant wrote: A quick note to the group to say that a great, lightweight, JQuery based, continuously updated, object

Re: [WSG] SEO and headers order

2009-04-15 Thread Jason Grant
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Re: [WSG] SEO and headers order

2009-04-15 Thread Jason Grant
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Re: [WSG] Borders in liquid layouts

2009-04-17 Thread Jason Grant
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Re: [WSG] Box model in IE7

2009-04-23 Thread Jason Grant
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Re: [WSG] Box model in IE7

2009-04-24 Thread Jason Grant
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Re: [WSG] Box model in IE7

2009-04-24 Thread Jason Grant
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Re: [WSG] legal list numbering

2009-08-26 Thread Jason Grant
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Re: [WSG] legal list numbering

2009-08-26 Thread Jason Grant
. ant.grak...@gmail.com wrote: IE not understand this. You don't agree? 2009/8/26 Jason Grant ja...@flexewebs.com: Inspect the TOC of this page and see that the markup I used is essentially correct. The difference is that they wrote the numbers down into the page (i.e. 1.1, 4.11, 5., etc

Re: [WSG] legal list numbering

2009-08-26 Thread Jason Grant
at 2:33 PM, Antony Gr. ant.grak...@gmail.com wrote: This isn't work correctly: 'counter-reset' and other CSS styles for this nested lists not supported by IE. 2009/8/26 Jason Grant ja...@flexewebs.com: This isn't a problem at all. It's a simple thing to do in HTML. Example: ol liBlah

Re: [WSG] The 'Some Links for Light Reading' posts

2009-09-23 Thread Jason Grant
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Re: More than one H1? (was [WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: WSG Digest)

2009-10-16 Thread Jason Grant
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[WSG] Re: More than one H1?

2009-10-16 Thread Jason Grant
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Re: More than one H1? (was [WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: WSG Digest)

2009-10-16 Thread Jason Grant
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Re: More than one H1? (was [WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: WSG Digest)

2009-10-16 Thread Jason Grant
subject does not exist. so IA wise and semantic wise this is not a must. google wise it is. On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Jason Grant ja...@flexewebs.com wrote: Tim, Well done for reading the spec - it's always a must. However, Google came after the HTML4.01 spec and what Google wants

Re: More than one H1? (was [WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: WSG Digest)

2009-10-16 Thread Jason Grant
/watch?v=GIn5qJKU8VMfeature=channel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIn5qJKU8VMfeature=channel(video from March 2009) Tim On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Jason Grant ja...@flexewebs.com wrote: Tim, Well done for reading the spec - it's always a must. However, Google came after the HTML4.01

Re: [WSG] RE: More than one H1?

2009-10-16 Thread Jason Grant
and they say to use multiple H1's! -- *From:* li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] *On Behalf Of *Jason Grant *Sent:* 16 October 2009 14:48 *To:* wsg@webstandardsgroup.org *Subject:* Re: More than one H1? (was [WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: WSG

Re: [WSG] RE: More than one H1?

2009-10-16 Thread Jason Grant
] *On Behalf Of *Jason Grant *Sent:* 16 October 2009 15:25 *To:* wsg@webstandardsgroup.org *Subject:* Re: [WSG] RE: More than one H1? EBS Admin - Matt doesn't say to use multiple H1s on the page, but says that you will not get penalised for using them (within reason) on a given page. Every site

Re: [WSG] Re: More than one H1?

2009-10-17 Thread Jason Grant
and informative people on this list, which I appreciate. - Christian Fagan - Fagan Design - fagandesign.com.au - p: (+613) 9314-1841 Oliver Boermans wrote: 2009/10/16 Jason Grant ja...@flexewebs.com ja...@flexewebs.com: Ollie you are threading a dangerous ground there. Explained

Re: [WSG] Re: More than one H1?

2009-10-17 Thread Jason Grant
Oh yes, and let's not forget that Google isn't the only search engine on the planet too. :-) On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Jason Grant ja...@flexewebs.com wrote: Once again I have to come back to this great thread - one of the best discussions in the long time on this mailing list

Re: [WSG] Re: More than one H1?

2009-10-17 Thread Jason Grant
- fagandesign.com.au - p: (+613) 9314-1841 Oliver Boermans wrote: 2009/10/16 Jason Grant ja...@flexewebs.com ja...@flexewebs.com: Ollie you are threading a dangerous ground there. Explained here why you are wrong: http://www.flexewebs.com/semantix/semantic-uses-of-h1-h2-h6-html-tags/ Good link

Re: [WSG] Re: More than one H1?

2009-10-18 Thread Jason Grant
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Re: [WSG] Is pressing Enter to submit (or not) on forms an accessability issue? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2009-10-20 Thread Jason Grant
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Re: [WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (22/12/09)

2009-12-22 Thread Jason Grant
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Re: [WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (22/12/09)

2009-12-22 Thread Jason Grant
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Re: [WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (22/12/09)

2009-12-22 Thread Jason Grant
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[WSG] Accessibility does not matter!

2010-01-29 Thread Jason Grant
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Re: [WSG] Accessibility does not matter!

2010-01-30 Thread Jason Grant
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Re: [WSG] Accessibility does not matter!

2010-01-30 Thread Jason Grant
...@cfajohnson.com wrote: On Sat, 30 Jan 2010, Jason Grant wrote: Thanks to people who have commented via blog and email. ... @Chris F.A. Johnson That page is accessible, it just looks shit in the browser you tested in (whatever you have used there - would have nice to have test environment details

Re: [WSG] Accessibility does not matter!

2010-01-30 Thread Jason Grant
construct going on. HHmmm. Anyway. Back to my shell script. ;-) On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 10:00 PM, Jason Grant ja...@flexewebs.com wrote: @Chris F. A. Johnson Once again, the site only looks rubbish for most part and is still accessible with larger font size. How do you propose overcoming

Re: [WSG] Accessibility does not matter!

2010-01-30 Thread Jason Grant
wrote: From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Jason Grant Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:14 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Accessibility does not matter! So, what are you getting at? Yes, let's make the intranet completely

Re: [WSG] Accessibility does not matter!

2010-01-30 Thread Jason Grant
for Business Mobile: 0411 276602 i...@petermount.com http://www.petermount.com On 31/01/2010, at 12:16 PM, Jason Grant wrote: @Thierry I don't see how breaking a wrist has much to do with accessibility? My article does not say 'break all accessibility rules' if you can. It basically tries to say

Re: [WSG] Accessibility does not matter!

2010-01-31 Thread Jason Grant
matthewpenn...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 1:16 AM, Jason Grant ja...@flexewebs.com wrote: @Thierry I don't see how breaking a wrist has much to do with accessibility? Broken wrist = inability to use a mouse. If your site/intranet/app is not keyboard-accessible, how

Re: [WSG] Accessibility does not matter!

2010-01-31 Thread Jason Grant
Koblentz thierry.koble...@gmail.com wrote: From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Jason Grant Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:06 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Accessibility does not matter! @Matthew Pennell You are confused

Re: [WSG] Accessibility does not matter!

2010-01-31 Thread Jason Grant
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Re: [WSG] Accessibility does not matter!

2010-01-31 Thread Jason Grant
And while we are on the topic of Google, their UX principles are as follows: http://www.google.com/corporate/ux.html Please pay attention to points 6 and 7 carefully. Thanks, Jason On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 12:24 AM, Jason Grant ja...@flexewebs.com wrote: @Thierry Why does Google not care about

Re: [WSG] Accessibility does not matter!

2010-01-31 Thread Jason Grant
yourself look less clever than you actually are. On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 12:39 AM, Patrick H. Lauke re...@splintered.co.uk wrote: On 01/02/2010 00:24, Jason Grant wrote: @Thierry Why does Google not care about accessibility? Do they believe in 'Accessibility does not matter!' (rather than

Re: [WSG] Progressive Enhancement

2010-02-05 Thread Jason Grant
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Re: [WSG] semantic structure for icon and text

2010-05-11 Thread Jason Grant
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Re: [WSG] semantic structure for icon and text

2010-05-11 Thread Jason Grant
this.. but any idea what is the reason behind that? naveen *From:* Jason Grant ja...@flexewebs.com *Sent:* Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:03 PM *To:* wsg@webstandardsgroup.org *Subject:* Re: [WSG] semantic structure for icon and text Shrikant, Under all circumstances you ought to use a background image

Re: [ADMIN} spam alert - Thread Closed Re: [WSG] RE:

2010-08-12 Thread Jason Grant
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Re: [WSG] Yes or No? HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS

2010-08-17 Thread Jason Grant
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Re: [WSG] Yes or No? HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS

2010-08-17 Thread Jason Grant
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Re: [WSG] HTML5 with Chrome

2010-08-31 Thread Jason Grant
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Re: [WSG] Google 'X-ray' banner

2010-11-08 Thread Jason Grant
GIF indeed Sent from my iPhone On 8 Nov 2010, at 12:32, Foskett, Mike mike.fosk...@uk.tesco.com wrote: Animated GIF I believe. mike foskett http://websemantics.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of

Re: [WSG] Google 'X-ray' banner

2010-11-08 Thread Jason Grant
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Re: [WSG] Mobile urls

2010-11-14 Thread Jason Grant
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Re: [WSG] mobile

2010-12-30 Thread Jason Grant
Takes fng years to load up on my iPhone4 through the mobile connection, so I would say that's a #fail. Optimise that by all means. Design is clean, nice chunky, prodabble buttons which is cool, but not sure of the navigation paradigm from usability perspective (couldn't test for longer as

Re: [WSG] nav or menu?

2011-01-09 Thread Jason Grant
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Re: [WSG] To marquee or not to marquee here is the question!!!

2011-01-18 Thread Jason Grant
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Re: [WSG] HTML/CSS reference

2011-04-05 Thread Jason Grant
Shameless! ;-) Sent from my iPad On 6 Apr 2011, at 00:20, Russ Weakley r...@maxdesign.com.au wrote: A lot of personal opinion here... but try these books: Stunning CSS3 by Zoe Gilenwater The CSS Anthology by Rachel Andrew Designing with CSS by Andy Clarke Transcending CSS by

Re: [WSG] Google Les Paul tribute

2011-06-09 Thread Jason Grant
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Re: [WSG] Modal forms - what to call them?

2011-07-20 Thread Jason Grant
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Re: [WSG] Modal forms - what to call them?

2011-07-20 Thread Jason Grant
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Re: [WSG] Combining media stylesheets - best practice

2012-03-01 Thread Jason Grant
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Re: [WSG] Possibly the best CSS framework ever?

2012-04-01 Thread Jason Grant
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