[WSG] IE6 3-pixel jog victim

2008-02-10 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
Hi, I have restyled a timeline but have come stuck with IE6's 3-pixel jog. I cannot apply the usual remedy (floating the paragraph) as I need any element next to the floated offender to be indented. Hence the paragraph has a left margin which cannot be zero. I've tried all the usual IE6 tricks

RE: [WSG] IE6 3-pixel jog victim

2008-02-10 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
Hi Thomas, I have restyled a timeline but have come stuck with IE6's 3-pixel jog. Add left padding to the paragraph intead? Unfortunately that won't work. My aim is to have all paragraphs aligned to the left, even if they start below the year box. That's why I need to flow the year box but not

RE: [WSG] IE6 3-pixel jog victim

2008-02-14 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
I have restyled a timeline but have come stuck with IE6's 3-pixel jog. I cannot apply the usual remedy (floating the paragraph) as I need any element next to the floated offender to be indented. Hence the paragraph has a left margin which cannot be zero.

[WSG] RE: Sitemap and accessibility

2008-03-09 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
Cheers, Jens Korff Lead User Interface Developer Creative Services Unit Fairfax Digital Level 2, 1 Darling Island Road Pyrmont NSW 2009 T: +61 2 8596 4405 F: +61 2 8596 4466 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike at

RE: [WSG] Firefox developer toolbar

2008-03-09 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
Does the web developer toolbar support Firefox 3.0 beta 3? Here's a beta for the beta: http://jefim.wordpress.com/2008/01/08/webdeveloper-add-on-for-firefox-3- beta-2/ Cheers, Jens Korff The information contained in this e-mail message and any accompanying files is or may be confidential.

RE: [WSG] a target= blank not part of xhtml

2008-03-27 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
Poping up windows makes assumtion of the user's behaviour. I second that. Originally I had the target solution, then (to make it XHTML-compliant) an inline JS solution. With the next redesign I will throw it out altogether and just indicate external links through CSS, but leave it to the user to

[WSG] Floating model: FF counterintuitive

2008-04-17 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
Hi group, I have a really easy setting: h2 style=float:left;width:300pxheading/h2 div style=float:left;width:300pxdiv one/div div style=float:right;width:200pxdiv two/div When I imagine this I expect the browser to render the two left-floated elements on the left side and the single

RE: [WSG] Floating model: FF counterintuitive

2008-04-17 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
Maybe I should clarify: This is how FF aligns them: +---+ |heading| +---+ +---+ ++ | div1 | |div2| | | || +---+ ++ ...which is *not* what I want. I'd like to have the IE version, sketched below. I think it's because the heading and div1 make up a chain of

RE: [WSG] Floating model: FF counterintuitive

2008-04-17 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
Hi Casey, Changing the order of the DIVs in the source should fix the problem you're absolutely right - changing the source order would solve the problem. But in order to keep together what content-wise has to be kept together (heading and div1) I wanted to know if there is another solution.

RE: [WSG] Floating model: FF counterintuitive

2008-04-18 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
Hi guys, thanks for all your valuable input. In the end I introduced and floated to the left another div which wrapped the heading and div1. This way I ensured that the context was preserved (relationship between heading and div1's content) and that this new block of content aligned with div2

[WSG] Form best practice

2008-04-20 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
Hi all, we are currently evaluating how we code up forms. In the process I'd like to review form best practices. I guess you've come across a good form with respect to either design, functionality, semantics or interaction. Please send me any bookmarks you might have of what you consider top of

RE: [WSG] Form best practice

2008-04-22 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
Hi Jessica others, thank you very much for your contributions. This got me started really well. We're now entering the process of reviewing the guidelines we'd like to apply and some good and bad examples. Cheers, Jens The information contained in this e-mail message and any accompanying

RE: [WSG]

2008-04-22 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
Hi Anat, there is no tool that fully automates the process - too many issues need manual inspection. However, for what can be automated and what needs to be reported back to a human reviewer we found TAW a good (and free) option. http://www.tawdis.net/taw3/cms/en (see right hand side for

[WSG] An efficient CSS architecture

2008-04-24 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
Hi all, I'm currently in the lucky position to be able to design a CSS architecture from scratch. I was thinking of creating a layered approach where I have a CSS layer for - the CSS reset - the site layout (structural parts, ie. columns, rows, header, footer) - the site's elements (boxes which

RE: [WSG] An efficient CSS architecture

2008-04-28 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
Hi Paul, thanks for your thoughts. Could you share why you went for Yahoo YUI rather than e.g. Blueprint CSS? Please explain to me what you mean with CSS for a creative workgroup and dev workgroup. Why is this distinction necessary? I am currently looking into CSS compression. This has,

[WSG] IE8 beta's a nightmare

2008-04-29 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
Hi community, we just did some testing of our sites in IE8 beta and got some ahhhs and ohhhs - not because of its standard compliance, rather because all sites seem to be broken: logos disappeared, elements misplaced, Google maps blown up, etc. Did anyone do some more testing with IE8? Do we

RE: [WSG] IE8 beta's a nightmare

2008-04-30 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
Hi Thom, finally someone who addressed my original question ;-) We'd tested a few sites, build over the last 18...24 months, and I'm not sure about how much IE-only styles there are. I guess the doctype is mainly XHTML Transitional if at all. I hope once IE8 is out of beta we'll have more

RE: [WSG] The Problem of adjacent links

2008-05-09 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
The most common separator used in such circumstances ... is the vertical bar...whilst it is quite wordy That's the reason why I've started *not* to use it anymore. I'm using borders instead and add the class last to the last list element to apply no borders at all. Whilst a border is slightly

RE: [WSG] The Problem of adjacent links

2008-05-11 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
Screen-reader users have said that the vertical bar is THEIR preferred character Really? Do you have any data supporting your claim? I'm happy to learn more since we cannot conduct user tests on our end. As was pointed out before, I thought a read of List. 5 items. Item one: . Item two:

RE: [WSG] Marking up company logo

2008-05-28 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
The H1 should be used for the most important heading, usually the name of the page I second that. We used to have lots of logos in h1s too, and after a thorough SEO discussion we changed that to a p. The h1 now holds the page title. Cheers, Jens The information contained in this e-mail

RE: [WSG] Alt versus Title Attribute

2008-05-28 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
I don't see the point of the null alt strings. Consider e.g. sponsor images. You don't want to pollute your SEOed page with sponsor keywords, nor is it necessary from an accessibility point of view. Cheers, Jens The information contained in this e-mail message and any accompanying files is

RE: [WSG] Background-position in percentage

2008-06-03 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
Does anyone know why [bg image positioning] was created that way, and/or can you tell me if there's some very useful thing this rule allows you to do? As Alex pointed out this is the way to use if you want to right-align or bottom-align a bg image. Also for horizontal/vertical centering this is

RE: [WSG] Structuring CSS

2008-06-09 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
How are you guys structuring your CSS files? I am currently in the process of restructuring our CSS. The approach I'm looking into is as follows: 1) use Eric Meyer's reset CSS to create a common base 2) use Blueprint's grid.css for the grid layer 3) use a component CSS layer to a) give

RE: [WSG] Reset CSS

2008-06-10 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
Wondering what your thoughts are on whether to use a 'reset' framework for CSS I wouldn't label it a framework since it's effectively just a single, simple style sheet. For me it's benefits are * one initial place to reset margins, paddings (saves me from doing this over and over again

[WSG] Semantic coding of posted in

2008-06-12 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
I need to code a posted in list of terms where an entry could be filed in, eg: Posted in: category1, category2 My initial choice was to use an unordered list, but what do I with the heading posted in? Should I use a definition list rather? Can we assume that we define where the entry has been

RE: [WSG] transparency, png IE6 ??

2008-06-16 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
Does anyone have a clever full functional solution for this transparency crap to make work ? I know it's a rather old thread but I just came across a nice solution which does not even need an iepngfix.htc Javascript. One template I work on required a semitransparent background. I have it

[WSG] Link to WSG archive in footer?

2008-06-22 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
I just tried to find the WSG's archive which took a Google search after unsuccessfully searching for it on webstandardsgroup.org. Why not include this link in the standard post footer next to the guidelines link? Helps us search before we might ask again what has just been discussed. Cheers,

RE: [WSG] columns with matching vertical alignment

2008-07-10 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
I would like to know the best (or at least better and simple) way to achieve this kind of design. [horizontally aligned lists at the end of parallel columns] Hi Ben, I'd keep the content together for semantic reasons. Then you need to assess the maximum text you allow for both the paragraphs

RE: [WSG] Forcing a vertical scrollbar in Firefox 3

2008-07-10 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
Opera Web Standards Curriculum: http://www.opera.com/wsc/ It is interesting to note that they fail to follow the most basic web standard for implementing an image tag - specifying width and height - so that the page annoyingly jumps when the image is loaded. But heads up for only one

[WSG] Semantic markup of a byline date/time

2008-07-15 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
Hi all, I'm trying to find a semantic representation of the following construct which is part of an article template: Byline goes here July 15, 2008 - 3:51PM Page 1 of 2 | Single page The current implementation uses proprietary byline and date tags and a span for the pagination information.

RE: [WSG] Semantic markup of a byline date/time

2008-07-17 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
Did you manage to find a solution to this? Hi Ben, I ended up using this structure: div class=articleDetails cfix h5Nam vestibulum leo id condimentum/h5 citeDominus 23, 2008 - 10:36AM/cite pPage 1 of 3 a class=single href=#Single page view/a/p p class=commentsa

RE: [WSG] Pop-Ups (BOM)

2008-07-17 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
what's your views on Pop-Ups My spontaneous answer is that I would expect pop-ups to alert me to something that needs immediate attention, as you say when I forgot to save my email draft. If I'm using web apps the correct way I don't expect any pop-ups since web apps can manage all other

RE: [WSG] Semantic markup of a byline date/time

2008-07-17 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
I may be wrong, but your use of cite looks the wrong way around - surely a citation should point at a document? If it's a cite _attribute_, then yes, it should point at a document. But a cite element, as I understand it, marks up a piece of attribution text, and so can simply be the name

RE: [WSG] What if (element width + margin ) container width?

2008-07-25 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
For example, you could add overflow-x: hidden to the container to stop the expansion Hi David, that's what I did (to Blueprint CSS actually). Since the overflowing bit was just a margin anyway I could accept this fix for IE6. Cheers, Jens The information contained in this e-mail message

RE: [WSG] Shopping cart - who does what

2008-08-13 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
Do the free [shopping carts] (such as ZenCart and OsCommerce) do an adequate job ? I once did a ZenCart job for a friend and found it extremely confusing. ZenCart has hundreds of options and if you're new to the software you should prepare for a lot of searching on the net. That said there are

RE: [WSG] Figures out issues. Standards for troubleshooting css

2008-08-31 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
Setting backgrounds is one of the quickest ways to check line-ups while designing and troubleshooting. Another technique I use daily is to invalidate CSS rules instead of commenting them out during troubleshooting. I second these techniques. I use bg colours as well and invalidate CSS by

[WSG] Equidistant floats in a container

2008-09-08 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
Hi all, I need to float elements in a container so that they have the same margin between them. I've seen somewhere a technique how this can be done without additional classes, but can only remember part of it. This works in Firefox and Chrome, but not in both IEs: div ... ul

RE: [WSG] Equidistant floats in a container

2008-09-08 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
if you're viewing in IE6 it will be the double-margin bug Would be easier to say for sure if there was some code to view. I thought of the double-margin bug too, but that seems not to be the issue here. Since the code's still in development I cannot provide a link unfortunately. I had

RE: [WSG] Learning Javascript properly

2008-09-18 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
I've been trying to convince people here at work to use JQuery for UI... Are there any takes on JQuery vs. Mootools? Easier? More compatible? Less filesize? Thanks! Cheers, Jens The information contained in this e-mail message and any accompanying files is or may be confidential. If

[WSG] Accessible date picker widget

2008-10-29 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
Hi all, I'm looking for an accessible widget that lets you select a date. It should be lightweight (or compressible), not depend on frameworks and allow for keyboard use / screenreaders. The ones I've found so far couldn't take all hurdles. Thank you! Cheers, Jens The information

RE: [WSG] RE: Accessible date picker widget

2008-10-31 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
Hi guys, thank you very much for your suggestions, I'll have a thorough look through them. Cheers, Jens The information contained in this e-mail message and any accompanying files is or may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, dissemination, reliance, forwarding,

[WSG] Chrome and Safari render the same...or do they?

2009-01-07 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
Hi experts, I'm running into big rendering differences between Google Chrome and Safari 3.1/PC. They are said to render pages the same, given that they're using the same Webkit engine. The differences seem to be mainly due to the different font rendering. Safari's fonts are way smaller, hence my

RE: [WSG] Chrome and Safari render the same...or do they?

2009-01-08 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
Hi all, thanks for your suggestions. I'm attaching a side-by-side comparison of a snippet of the page since I cannot put any code live, hoping the attachment gets delivered. Safari is on the left, Chrome on the right. If you cannot see the attachment, it shows how the graphical background

RE: [WSG] Title attribute

2009-01-11 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
I was wondering how valuable the Title attribute is Use the 'title' attribute when the link text needs to be short and doesn't convey all a user needs to know, eg. a href=... title=Latest News from InTheSticksLocal news/a. In this case you also add a bit of SEO. I found that, contrary to what I

[WSG] Code management advice needed

2009-03-05 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
Hi all, this might be slightly off topic and I'm glad for any redirects. We're managing our source code in a version control system called SVN. This works as long as frontend carve and backend integration are linear. Sometimes however we need to change code that's old from a frontend

RE: [WSG] Code management advice needed

2009-03-08 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
Hi Robert, Ben, James Martin, thanks for your responses. I've followed the links supplied and read your comments carefully. It seems that we really need to introduce tagging to set defined versions we can go back to to solve our problems. Currently we have a 'trunk' and a 'branch' for each

RE: [WSG] a WCAG 2.0 question

2009-03-13 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
I'm also bruised by new windows I didn't want and links which apparently didn't work because they refreshed an existing window below the current one. I second the line of argumentation against new windows. Even if screen readers can deal with them better now, I'd like to keep the user in control

[WSG] Using background images on submit buttons

2009-06-17 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
Hi community, on an ASP.NET-driven site we'd like to use background images for flexible-width submit inputs. Due to the .NET limitation we cannot use the button tag and are stuck with the following syntax: input type=submit value=Button Text / Did you ever style these submit inputs with

[WSG] RE: Using background images on submit buttons

2009-06-18 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
on an ASP.NET-driven site we'd like to use background images for flexible-width submit inputs. Due to the .NET limitation we cannot use the button tag and are stuck with the following syntax: input type=submit value=Button Text / Thank you for your inputs. However, we really cannot use the

[WSG] Accessible websites (was: accessible free web hosting account)

2009-06-30 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
Hi all, I believe making sites accessible is very important. We are all used to ramps near stairs, lifts near escalators, lowered curbs at intersections. We need to get used to baking in time into our projects for accessible elements. Such elements are hidden headings (to aid semantics), skip

RE: [WSG] Accessible websites (was: accessible free web hosting account)

2009-06-30 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
Hi, thank you for your thoughts and feedback. After all, the few people that do spend any time at all on making their websites accessible, probably aren't going to be experts in accessibility, so probably won't do a very good job of it. Yes and no. If we had no pioneers which

RE: [WSG] Strange Bottom Margin on Floated Elements I Can't Get Rid of

2009-08-16 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
Hi Cole, you can also specify {vertical-align:bottom} for the images. Cheers, Jens -Original Message- Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Strange Bottom Margin on Floated Elements I Can't Get Rid of Hi Cole, Try setting those images to 'display: block;'

RE: [WSG] playing with css

2010-01-19 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
I have one question I can't seem to find and answer to below is all my css in a document I have created. It is xhtml transitional. Do you have a (temporary) link so we can have a look? Cheers, Jens The information contained in this e-mail message and any accompanying files is or may be

[WSG] RE: Poetry needing block format but with line-breaks

2010-02-16 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
I'm doing a poetry 'zine. Quite a lot of poets want to set the way the poem looks as well as sounds; and one poem needs to be in block format, but with lines breaking at specific words, so I have to use the line-break ... Hi Susie, did you try using pre to preserve whitespace (which

[WSG] Using a dot . in a class name

2010-03-11 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
Hi all, I've noticed that YouTube uses a dot for its star rating: button class=[...] ratingL ratingL-4.5 It seems to work in browsers, but I'd like to know if this character is valid and if it might have future implications if used that way. Thanks, Jens The information contained in this

[WSG] Advanced Javascript course (Sydney)?

2010-09-16 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
Hi all, I am trying to find someone who can hold a one-day advanced Javascript course but have no luck. Many courses start with the very basics or take three days to get to the advanced level. We are looking for a syllabus that addresses things like . progressive enhancement principles .