Re: [WSG] Avoiding the evil br

2005-10-09 Thread Jon Tan
which is then style span{display:block} with CSS. Each span could have a semantically useful classname or you could look in to the hCard microformat: http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard Jon Tan Grow Collective www.gr0w.com - Original Message - From: Hope Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Web

Re: [WSG] Avoiding the evil br

2005-10-09 Thread Jon Tan
format adds meaning to span's in this instance and additonal page weight is tiny. Kind regards Jon Tan www.gr0w.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints

Re: [WSG] Avoiding the evil br

2005-10-09 Thread Jon Tan
I was present for Tantek's talk and I thought he said address was used only for information about the author, not for various adddresses that might be listed on a Contact Us page. I don't recall what he said about br. I'll have to download the podcast and listen to it again -- it will be a

Re: [WSG] Avoiding the evil br

2005-10-09 Thread Jon Tan
apply to non-CSS agents too? I.e: The Secretary, Your Club, PO Box 999, Anytown VIC 3000. Is just as semantically correct as The Secretary, Your Club, PO Box 999, Antown VIC 3000. Regards Jon Tan www.gr0w.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version

Re: [WSG] Avoiding the evil br

2005-10-09 Thread Jon Tan
but I would always seek to minimise the block level grouping elements in my mark-up. Jon Tan www.gr0w.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.13/126 - Release Date: 09/10/2005

Re: [WSG] Avoiding the evil br

2005-10-09 Thread Jon Tan
resource like a web site which was the example intitally given in the discussion. The HTML4.01 address recommendation is here: http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/struct/global.html#h-7.5.6 Regards Jon Tan www.gr0w.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version

Re: [WSG] Avoiding the evil br

2005-10-09 Thread Jon Tan
span or div, if the purpose of wrapping these lines is just to make them behave as block elements, then why not wrapping only 2 our of 4? If it was pure presenation, sure, but this was with reference to sematics. A hCard (which was the original idea of the reply) needs more:

Re: [WSG] More on character encoding

2005-11-23 Thread Jon Tan
, if it will be visible checkpoint 13.1 also applies: 13.1 Clearly identify the target of each link. [Priority 2] Link text should be meaningful enough to make sense when read out of context http://www.w3.org/TR/WAI-WEBCONTENT/#gl-facilitate-navigation Jon Tan www.gr0w.com [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [WSG] starting ordered lists from a number other than 1

2005-11-23 Thread Jon Tan
images so access to groups of images themselves is achieved through that? Jon Tan www.gr0w.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints

Re: [WSG] :after, IE, and link text wrapping

2005-11-23 Thread Jon Tan
talking about frisbees I get jealous. Jon Tan www.gr0w.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **

Re: [WSG] starting ordered lists from a number other than 1

2005-11-23 Thread Jon Tan
. Jon Tan www.gr0w.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon Tan Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2005 12:29 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] starting ordered lists from a number other than 1 Chris Kennon [EMAIL

Re: [WSG] Dragon Way (Site Check)

2005-11-25 Thread Jon Tan
(same as 1.) see 3. 5. Slow Safari - fine IE5.2/Mac: Slow as hell (over a minute). Definitely not a connection issue as all other browsers are fine. Something is causing IE5.2 to struggle when rendering your code. Suggest they're using IE5.2/Mac to test unfortunately. Jon Tan www.gr0w.com

Re: [WSG] Casual Friday[Drop-Down Menus]

2005-11-25 Thread Jon Tan
of logical steps towrds their goals. Too often I've been interested in something mentioned in the content of page but then being _forced_ to use a master drop down menu to find related information becuse there was no link from the content to quickly drill to it. Jon Tan www.gr0w.com

Re: [WSG] Re: University textbook or other resources?

2005-11-26 Thread Jon Tan
/The_DDA_and_IT.cfm Jon Tan www.gr0w.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **

Re: [WSG] menu suggestions and problems

2005-11-26 Thread Jon Tan
to their business. In any event, by reacting so ungraciously to input, I doubt it will encourage further assistance with your problem. Jon Tan www.gr0w.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http

Re: [WSG] menu suggestions and problems

2005-11-26 Thread Jon Tan
On Saturday, November 26, 2005 9:53 PM, Christian Montoya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I could have sworn I got all these e-mails last night, what's going on?!? Ditto. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

Re: [WSG] Newcomers and Web Standards

2005-12-03 Thread Jon Tan
your code with the a validator will also help you along the way. In any case, you can definitely do better than notepad. Good luck. Jon Tan www.gr0w.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http

Re: [WSG] talking points for standards

2005-12-06 Thread Jon Tan
this PR firm can go to more effect work. Even if (and no disrespect meant by this) they love the PR firm's designs and don't like your own ideas they can always produce the visual design and you code it. Either way your NFP saves money. Jon Tan www.gr0w.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] [1] http

Re: [WSG] Search Engine Script *Little off topic*

2006-02-08 Thread Jon Tan
Hi Todd This is self promoting but we might have what you're looking for. Please feel free to check our PHP plug-in Grow Search listed here: http://webstandardsgroup.org/go/resourcecat30.cfm or directly here: http://www.gr0w.com/amos/growsearch/ There's also a livesearch version available

Re: [WSG] Today's lesson: Respect - be courteous up or leave

2006-02-09 Thread Jon Tan
Russ, that was beautiful. The gentle sarcasm brought a tear of mirth to my eye. ta. lol. russ - maxdesign wrote: I want to talk today about respect. For those of you who have not heard of this concept, respect is sometimes defined as courteous regard for people's feelings. When you reply to

Re: [WSG] Standards compliant slideshow

2006-03-13 Thread Jon Tan
Darren West wrote: Hello, Can anyone please recommend a standards compliant slideshow script that uses a list of images within the HTML markup to dynamically create the show. Slightly self-promoting but try http://scooch.gr0w.com . The current demo is woefully out of date already with a lot

Re: [WSG] maximum backward compartible to mobile phone (WAP) users? Which XHTML DTD?

2006-03-17 Thread Jon Tan
browser. Thanks Jon Tan www.gr0w.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **

Re: [WSG] Alt versus Title Attribute

2008-05-27 Thread Jon Tan
Tom Livingston provided the following information on 28/05/2008 3:26 AM: Can anyone give me a clear example/explanation of the difference between the alt attribute and the title attribute? How about a real 'attributes for dummies' reference?? The difference seems very slight to me... Hi Tom,

Re: [WSG] Marking Up Poems

2008-06-19 Thread Jon Tan
be interesting to know how alternative browsers handle both br /s and single/double line breaks in pre blocks. Do they inject a pause or other aural boundary? Jon Tan - http://jontangerine.com/ [1] http://www.ualberta.ca/~sreimer/ms-course/course/punc.htm

Re: [WSG] Marking Up Poems

2008-06-19 Thread Jon Tan
On 19 Jun 2008, at 11:06, Jon Tan wrote: On 19 Jun 2008, at 10:08, James Jeffery wrote: A question was raised at work today 'How do you mark up a poem'. I looked into it but found nothing worthy. My original thought was to use P's and class names, but one article I read said XML

Re: [WSG] IE6/7 behaviour

2008-06-24 Thread Jon Tan
On 24 Jun 2008, at 15:41, Rob Enslin wrote: Code CSS snippet: body { margin: 0; padding: 0; text-align: center; } #wrap { width: 832px; margin: 0 auto; } …that should do it. All the best, Jon - http://jontangerine.com/