Michael Kear wrote:
So just for the hell of it, I hit the Top Style 'stylesweeper', and
bingo! Everything was nicely laid out.
I love TopStyle's stylesweeper - before a site goes live, I use it to
remove all extra spaces (to reduce download time). If I want to work on
that file again, I
Hi,
I've been lurking here for a while, but seeing Russ's excellent
presentation at the meeting before MXDU has encouraged me to be more
active. I'm the appointed Standards/QA Nazi in my workplace, as well
as being in charge of search engine marketing for our clients. Oh, and
I'm supposedly
Scott Mebberson wrote:
I'm not sure about any font examples like the Visibone one, however,
did you ever see this at Russ' website:
http://www.maxdesign.com.au/presentation/headings-as-images/index.cfm
I've yet to see an image replacement technique that worked for search
engines, was
russ weakley wrote:
However, all of these image replacement methods have serious downsides that
should be explained to designers before they jump on them as a solution.
That's my view exactly. Some of the techniques are very good, but
there's still nothing I'd want to use on a commercial
conditional
comments[1] - obviously the framework controls how the browser
identifies itself in this regard, not the rendering engine.
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comments[1] - obviously the framework controls how the browser
identifies itself in this regard, not the rendering engine.
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that from (Contribute on
Windows uses Internet Explorer) .
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Contribute (Mac): Opera
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the search angle important... it's
just all I eat, think and dream about lately :)
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those that I did respond to. Of course, many
people simply don't complain...
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don't make much difference at all, I do tend to remove
extra spaces and blank lines when I'm coding. Tidy code, tidy mind? Either that or I'm
particularly anally-retentive...
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, or the doctype is incorrect or missing. That's why use of the
xml prolog, while recommended by the W3C, is not a good idea.
Here a cool article with more examples of different doctypes then you'll
ever want to see: http://www.hut.fi/~hsivonen/doctype.html
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It worked for me no problem - I just dragged the bookmarklet link (the one
which is hosted on his server) from the page to my Firefox bookmark toolbar.
I have the Edit CSS extension installed...
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, SOMEWHERE, by the end of today, I swear I will have pull quotes
in little rounded panels. Somewhere :)
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Hi Aaron,
How about this article, helpfully titled Why tables for layout is stupid.
http://www.hotdesign.com/seybold/
Also, I highly recommend Jeffrey Zeldman's book Designing for Web
Standards. It's a great read, for zealots and non-zealots alike :)
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were for the wrong spelling. So including both
spellings is actually quite smart.
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etc are for.
A different beast is a desktop xhtml editor for use by developers, such as DWMX,
GoLive, TopStyle etc.
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I don't see the confusion. The post asked about a WYSIWYG editor the
generates XHTML and CSS, not component that integrates with a Web app.
The same poster clarified in the third post in the thread with:
but to edit documents on the web
I just thought I'd point out the distinction, as one
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another case a while ago where the only way to get rid of a huge gap between li's was
to add a border-bottom. Very strange.
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in an image. That way, you know that you're only targeting sighted,
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height on the list item and the
anchor, but inline elements don't have a height so it makes sense that that is ignored.
I'm out of ideas - anyone got any?
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Barbara Dozetos wrote:
wow, thanks! This teaches me so much!
The best resource I've found on how css positioning works is
http://www.brainjar.com/css/positioning/
I must have read it through at least 20 times... eventually it starts
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Barbara Dozetos wrote:
wow, thanks! This teaches me so much!
The best resource I've found on how css positioning works is
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, but a
previous release was OS9 compatible. I think I found it on the Canadian
Netscape site.
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fine. So until
you find the bug, don't despair!
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In my experience, IE5 Mac needs distinct clearing divs, eg:
div style=clear:both/div
rather than just the clear property on existing elements.
Of course, I'm not a Mac user, so take that advice with a grain of salt!
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, this is a great resource, and I'm going to shut up now.
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, having good navigation, and resizable text.
Jeffrey Veen caused a big debate by loudly proclaiming I don't care about
accessibility - and he's right. If you code nice html, you don't need to
care.
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, keeping as much presentation in css as
possible, having good navigation, and resizable text.
:)
Moral of the story: Stay Away From Sweeping Statements
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. If we did have a
client that wanted something that was going to make their site inaccessible,
long before we pulled them up on accessibility issues we'd be warning them
it would be affecting their Google ranking. That might be a good approach
for you.
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sites in a valid way
doesn't mean your pitches to clients or the sites you deliver need to look
any different (ok, they will look better, but an untrained eye probably
wouldn't notice anything specific, nor should they).
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Hi Marie,
If you're going to use xhtml, you need to give every attribute a value. Your
example would become:
option value=# selected=selectedSelect a page/option
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Are there any other browsers its invisible to? Anyone?
Pretty exhaustive list of hacks, both good hacks and bad hacks:
http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=CssHack
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That's known as price-fixing here in the US and that is illegal.
That's not true. Discussing going rates in various countries is not
price-fixing. A group of people agreeing to only charge a certain rate is
price-fixing. This is having less and less to do with web standards.
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lack of a
better suggestion. Fix up the rendering mode issue and you'll be on the right
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Russ Weakley - Maxdesign [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I played around with flash and and then Peter and I were threatened with
defamation in the Supreme Court of Queensland:
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Neerav [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I can view it in Firefox 0.8 , heres the text for ppl who cant access it
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We've created some hard-hitting pro-standards banner ads on our site.
Cool! There's some more here:
http://www.lazycat.org/postcards/index.html
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BTW - IF there are any programs out there that do this - please let
me know!
I think I can do most, if not all of that with TopStyle Stylesweepers.
You can save the parameters ton run them again - I have a
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I think the main problem with switching browsers is visible right
properly even if they
follow all the instructions. It's running beautifully on my machine
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or source reordering is kind of redundant.
I try to use absolute positioning to put masthead, logos, nav etc at
the bottom so that all the content is close to the top, where search
engines will place higher importance on it. But that's another
story
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good things about Joe Clarke's book, not sure of the name.
I've been planning to get it.
Can't help you with the others, sorry.
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that
validate which is tough when content changes regularly, I think you
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http://www.weeklystandards.com/ uses, and reward sites built in the
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or financial
services or any of the other categories mentioned.
Of course, I'm not a lawyer!
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fill me in on the
original post? Thanks so much.
I think the original poster was just pointing to this link:
http://www.iht.com/articles/525584.html
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This simplest way to match them would be changing your meta tags.
I was under the impression - please correct me if I'm wrong - that if
the server is sending the character encoding, there is no need to also
have the meta tag. Is there any other reason to include it,
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, even amongst casual non-technical users, despite the fact
that IE has like 110% market share. I guess it's because you can't use
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in an external file to populate the
content on the page to start with? You could then use a noscript block
to explain to people that in order to see and use the bookmarklets,
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http://www.onetruefit.com is the only one I can think of...
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I was just wondering if anybody can point me in the direction of a
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situation, the relative links no longer make sense, which is where the
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, and it will use the IE5 box model... yuck.
another page about it here:
http://blog.tom.me.uk/2003/07/23/boie6selecta.php
This looks interesting... if it works in an external file, I think
I'll add this to my box of standard tricks. Good one!
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On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 02:59:48 +0200, John Britsios
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I have a question: Doesn't my web site pages here http://www.webnauts.net have a
logical navigation structure, therefore I do need to use the Tabindex tags
to display:none.
Sorry, that probably doesn't help you too much!
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I've got a page that when someone tries to print it in IE 6 on
windows, it crashes the browser.
There's
it, and Google is not being
helpful. Has anyone seen anything like this before?
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for stuffing the
navigation and masthead fluff down the bottom of the source code (good
for screen readers and search engines). You go with what suits the
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. Where else will you get to
hang out with html geeks, standards nazis and css heads? You can learn
stuff just by osmosis.
Yet another reason to support conferences like these is to encourage
the industry to hold more.
Damn, I *so* wish I could go!
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OS-dependent, so most people probably don't bother.
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Does anyone know an online resource that emulates netscape 4.7?
Why not just install it on your dev machine? It's not that bad...
http://browsers.evolt.org has an archive with heaps of different
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when no doctype is present.
If you post the pages exhibiting the problem, I'm sure someone here
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I've found on how CSS positioning works is
http://www.brainjar.com/css/positioning/ - I had it saved on my PDA
and read it every morning on the train ride into work for weeks, until
it really sank in.
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/ - the analyzer
gives specific recommended sizes for each component of a page (css,
js, html, images), and reasons for each too.
Another useful tool that reports on similar aspects is
http://www.sitereportcard.com/
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the containing DIV or the UL, LI or A elements.
Try removing all line breaks between your list items, ie:
ulliitem one/liliitem two/li/ul
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On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 08:38:48 -0700, Shane Helm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This works on Mac Firefox, but not in Safari or IE.
On Oct 31, 2004, at 1:22 AM, Florin Cojitza wrote:
object type=application/x-shockwave-flash data=banner.swf
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That's very interesting and tallies completely with my experience. Mind you
it, Outlook will handle threads
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exactly where it is, but if
you set up a Top Style site you should see the option. Basically it
finds classes and ids in your css that aren't used in your HTML, and
classes and ids used in your HTML that aren't defined in your css.
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if breadcrumbs are really that important.
This is veering off-topic rapidly, but here's an interesting
discussion on real world data on the use of breadcrumb navigation
which suggests they're not utilised by most average users:
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Kay Smoljak wrote:
There's a number of different screenreaders available for testing.
Some are free, others have trial periods. I recently installed the
demo version of JAWS under Virtual PC - it will run for 40
that accessibility is a big issue for them and I
have no doubt the new sites will be much, much better than what's
there now. I believe that several years of planning and discussion has
gone into the project!
I might drop an email to someone and try to find out more...
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to the main state
government stuff. They're currently discussing getting rid of it
completely.
Anyway, it will be interesting to see what they come up with when the
new common badging is released.
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possibilities will be limited, the accessibility of the site lessened,
and download time increased.
I'm feeling like this whole week is one big Friday afternoon, and that
somehow sounds rather lame. Can anyone recommend any other reasons or
throw in some kick-arse buzzwords to make me look good?
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was really searching for
words that would say your requirements are bad for web standards and
accessibility and therefore bad for your site which I think is mostly
on-topic.
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for effective search engine optimisation, but it's certainly a good
start, and also an awesome selling point.
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everyone knows how to
get them and how to install them.
Good luck!
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is a) not serving their market; and b) most probably illegal.
K.
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[1] Imagined conversation:
Some pointy-haired boss:
Oh dear, what about all this accessibility legislation?
17yo work experience dude who's just completed their Certificate in
Multimedia:
Don't worry
the conditional comment syntax wasn't
quite right. The way they handle GT and LT is a little odd... I'd
check what you have against MSDN.
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you... those standalone versions are very, very confused about their
identities :)
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for some
the standalone versions to be accurate for
anything. I have a Virtual PC image with Windows 98 SE and IE
5.00.2614.3500 and Windows 2000 with IE 5.50.4134.0600 - but no 5.01,
unfortunately. If you'd like me to take some screenshots anyway just
send the link.
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