Re: [WSG] UTF-8 ,charset and Standard

2004-11-30 Thread Kornel Lesinski
UTF-8, a flavour of unicode, is an universal character set. You don't define any codepage/language for it. You just simply use whatever characters you like. meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=UTF-8 / This creates Content-Type header being http equivalent. Content is

Re: Focus highlighting, was Re: [WSG] Some links for light reading (30/11/04)

2004-11-30 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Does that really matter? In Firefox and IE there is a focus border anyway. IE doesn't support :focus or outlines, so there isn't much you can help. In Firefox Cursor-Mode (F7) uses small text-cursor that isn't good for bad sighted people anyway. Opera with spatial navigation always adds

Re: [WSG] Foreign Translations

2004-11-30 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:30:11 -0500, Ketan Vakil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it an okay plan to take an existing English website programmed in ColdFusion and basically duplicate it across a few other languages (French, German, Italian, Spanish) either in their own directories like /english

Re: [WSG] charater sets

2004-11-30 Thread Kornel Lesinski
In UTF-8 files you can use extra characters in their natural form instead of HTML entities - like nbsp, shy, mdash, ndash. You may also use quotes, elipsis, etc. They take less space and are safer for string manipulations on server-side. You don't have to worry about copying and pasting from

Re: Focus highlighting, was Re: [WSG] Some links for light reading (30/11/04)

2004-11-30 Thread Kornel Lesinski
The problem with declaring all three in one is that IE 5 (possibly 5.5 also, can't remember which right now) for PC chokes on any declaration that contains :focus. Combining your :active and :focus rules will effectively cancel that entire declaration in dodgy old IE. oh, dodgy old IE :/ remember

Re: [WSG] Are conditional comments the way to do this?

2004-12-01 Thread Kornel Lesinski
First I'd check if that problem can be fixed so that you can keep one stylesheet. You might have some error in styles that some browsers ignore and other don't. If by PC browsers you mean IE, check if it isn't one of it's well-known bugs: http://positioniseverything.net/explorer.html Some

Re: [WSG] Images in Nav, Splash Screens.

2004-12-01 Thread Kornel Lesinski
I try to explain to clients (and designers...) that user always knows where he got to - people just don't type random adresses :) Site design should already have logo and corporate look'n'feel so such splash screen basically has no information on meaningful content. Visitors seeking

Re: [WSG] Why does firefox tooltip only TITLE attribute and not ALT?

2004-12-01 Thread Kornel Lesinski
I am curious as to why Firefox only understands the title attribute when creating tool tips, why cant we just use ALT? ALT is for alternate content only and should be visible only when image is not. It is like noscript and other HTML fallbacks. TITLE was created especially for tooltips. All

Re: [WSG] Flash menu (was: Remote control CSS - A quick little article about lists)

2004-12-01 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Article mentions some disadvantages of Flash. I'd like to add another one, IMO biggest one: * Flash links cannot be opened in new window (ie. user has no control over it) With growing popularity of tabbed browsing this starts to be huge disadvantage, especially if Flash is used for menu.

Re: [WSG] Why does firefox tooltip only TITLE attribute and not ALT?

2004-12-01 Thread Kornel Lesinski
It's much easier to check alt attributes with the tooltip than by reading source code after all. You can install Web Developer Toolbar extension or press G in Opera. -- regards, Kornel Lesiski ** The discussion list for

Re: [WSG] Code or Markup

2004-12-02 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Was CSS developed first for XSLT/XML and then applied to HTML? Or vice versa? CSS was developed for HTML. Hakon Lie, co-autor of CSS, doesn't like XSL-FO. http://people.opera.com/howcome/1999/foch.html SGML existed first and DSSSL was used to style Wow, compared to DSSSL CSS is s easy and

Re: [WSG] What's right

2004-12-02 Thread Kornel Lesinski
hmm. ok, of course you are right. My next question is, what writing a declaration like a#id, what is happening? Certinally don't wanna throw out a it works so it must be right, since it is obviously not correct - but the question begs to be answered, why does it work? is that in some way

Re: [WSG] designing for the cell phone and PDA

2004-12-03 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Are there any successes or failures out there? I have no idea if my attempts works in the real world, since I do not even have one of those small devices. Have only been able to test in Opera SSR on PC. I have compared PC SSR to real device. It is very close. The only thing is that mobiles use

Re: [WSG] A quick breakdown of some code today

2004-12-07 Thread Kornel Lesinski
What browsers support CSS3? I'm guessing Firefox does/might. Are there others? Ofcourse there isn't a browser that supports more than little bits of CSS3. Gecko supports CSS3 selectors Opera supports CSS3 media queries Explorer supports some of the CSS3 text module (text-justify: newspaper; is

Re: [WSG] Firefox screen-reader emulator

2004-12-08 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Do any of these, or any others for that matter, support aural style sheets? from that list, emacSpeak only, unless things have changed recently... Opera 7.60 for Windows has support for voice xml and some aural styles. The software: http://snapshot.opera.com Docs and tutorials:

Re: [WSG] Netscape 4 - let it die

2004-12-10 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Don't blame the end user for the lousy browser their employer sticks them with. Educate the employers instead. Sure, if it works - don't change it. By supporting NN4 you just keep it alive and give message to bureaucrats that it is OK browser. So make it stop working. I think that employee

[WSG] iframe 100%

2004-12-11 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Do you know a good way to get iframe inside messy table-based layout to stretch to 100% available height? In IE it is as simple as iframe height=100%, but Opera is very picky about heights :( I'm trying to make hotfix for someone else's site, so mess, tables and iframe has to stay :/ I

Re: [WSG] Changing Standard

2004-12-12 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Why using a:link ? a /a means that the word inside is a link a { color:blue; text-decoration:underline; } is the same as setting a:link { color:blue; text-decoration:underline; } Link is a redundant tag No, it isn't. Think about these: a onclick=foo/a a href=bar/a a {} matches both, and :link

Re: [WSG] LOCAL XHTML TESTING - HOW TO DO IT?

2004-12-12 Thread Kornel Lesinski
For serious testing install web server locally. There is for example easyphp.org (and many others) that install and configure Apache, PHP, MySQL with almost one click. Then you can configure Apache to send .xhtml files as application/xhtml+xml or use PHP for that. httpd.conf: AddType

Re: [WSG] Reduce Page Weight

2004-12-13 Thread Kornel Lesinski
The point of putting metatags on pages is mostly for search engines. What if I create a conditional statement on my dynamically generated pages that print these meta tags (especially ketword and description ones) only if it is a bot. Maybe just forget about them altogether? Use good titles,

Re: [WSG] Some links for light reading (14/12/04)

2004-12-13 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 23:48:40 +1100, russ - maxdesign [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://news.com.com/Mozillaaimsformobilebrowsermarket/2100-1032_3-5483683.html I'd like to note that this news is disinformative. You could think that there isn't any browser that reformats pages, zooms images and

Re: [WSG] Video Files

2004-12-14 Thread Kornel Lesinski
For 30mb movies that is not a good idea. Browser will try to save whole file before sending it to application. This eliminates streaming. Not quite correct. When the QuickTime Movie is authored correctly, QuickTime plays the Video while it still downloads. You'd have to make few kb dummy quicktime

Re: [WSG] Standards Macromedia Contribute

2004-12-15 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On the Mac, Contribute uses the same (system-level) rendering engine as Safari, which means you should not get any nasty surprises with the layout. Are you sure? Some time ago there was a deal between Macromedia and Opera: http://www.opera.com/pressreleases/en/2002/07/20020702.dml (oh, and

Re: [WSG] Site review plz

2004-12-16 Thread Kornel Lesinski
The url: http://www.azapi.com/ Reviewing the home page only. Firefox 1.0 on Win2K, dial-up connection. The page took a long time to load. Looks like one of those if you don't have cable or ADSL we don't want your business type of sites. I suggest converting top and bottom backgrounds to JPEG.

Re: [WSG] noscript in xhtml1.0 strict

2004-12-16 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 16:37:49 +0100, Nick Verstappen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the noscript tag not allowed anymore in XHTML 1.0 Strict? I'm trying to use it, but it does not validate. If it IS allowed, what markup should I use to make it validate? Many thanks! Ofcourse it is allowed.

Re: [WSG] background loading issue

2004-12-16 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 13:19:48 -0600, Charles Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris Kennon wrote: Any suggestions on bringing the file size down? I've tried interlacing the .gif the current size is the lowest without image degradation. Just for comparison, I took the image into PaintShopPro

Re: [WSG] accessible image form buttons

2004-12-16 Thread Kornel Lesinski
SOLUTION 1: BUTTON Search img src=button.gif alt=Search /BUTTON Problem: Doesn't work in older browsers (e.g. NN4). Eh, another good solution spoiled by this zombie. a href=javascript:submitForm()Search/a Forget hackish href=javascript:. Use onclick instead. To make this less evil you could put

Re: [WSG] accessible image form buttons

2004-12-16 Thread Kornel Lesinski
The problem is the input style doesn't work in all browsers. In particular Opera and some of the Mac browsers will ignore them, if I remember correctly. Current version of Opera does excellent job with styling input elements. Opera even lets you change border on checkbox elements. I haven't

Re: [WSG] accessible image form buttons

2004-12-17 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Hmmm... I have tried to hide the border of an input field in Opera, but it flatly refused: input{border:0;} This is Opera 7.23 oh, that bug. Fixed in 7.50 or 7.60... For Opera 7.2 use: input {border: 0 solid;} -- regards, Kornel Lesiski ** The

Re: [WSG] Semantic Mark-Up for Product Catalog

2004-12-17 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 11:46:20 -0500, Michael Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris Kennon wrote: In the following name/value listing what would be the most semantic mark-up. Product Name: Product Number: Product Description: Product Cost: I'd probably use a definition list: dl dtMy

Re: [WSG] Semantic Mark-Up for Product Catalog

2004-12-17 Thread Kornel Lesinski
And please, please, if using a table remember to include row and column scope. What is the default scope? -- regards, Kornel Lesiski ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm

Re: [WSG] question - follow, index meta tag

2004-12-13 Thread Kornel Lesinski
If I have the following on my index page, do I need to repeat it on every page at my site? Doesn't this tag appearing once send the robots forward to all the other pages? meta name=robots content=index, follow / You don't need that at all. Index, follow is default behaviour and won't

Re: [WSG] Standards Macromedia Contribute

2004-12-15 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Are you sure? Some time ago there was a deal between Macromedia and Opera: http://www.opera.com/pressreleases/en/2002/07/20020702.dml (oh, and Apple: http://www.macminute.com/2003/09/30/opera) Not Apple. Adobe. oops. It was supposed to be and Adobe. Test it: body {content: It's Opera;} You

Re: [WSG] neat code in A9 search

2004-12-20 Thread Kornel Lesinski
there appears some funny characters. !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN This is another Microsoft invention - BOM marker used to recognize UTF-8 files. ByteOrderMarker makes no sense in UTF-8. Notepad and other MS-tools silently insert it in all UTF-8 files, making

Re: [WSG] neat code in A9 search

2004-12-20 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 16:04:48 +0100, JohnyB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do I remove this BOM marker once it's inserted? Damn it, it causes all my XSL transformations on Java to fail! I use PSPad (www.pspad.com), it doest it transparently (if set in preferences). alternatively you can open file

Re: [WSG] neat code in A9 search

2004-12-20 Thread Kornel Lesinski
BOM is a Unicode standard. Without BOM, applications have to waste resources trying to figure character encoding. Here are some FAQs about BOM: http://www.unicode.org/faq/utf_bom.html#22 I know that. FAQ more or less confirms what I've said - BOM in UTF-8 is Microsoft conventions for .txt

Re: [WSG] Hover psuedo-class issues

2004-12-21 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Does anyone know of any existing (and much simpler) JavaScript libraries that enable :hover, :focus, and :active for non anchor tags for IE? http://www.xs4all.nl/~peterned/csshover.html -- regards, Kornel Lesiski ** The discussion list for

Re: [WSG] Please explain use of html#____

2004-12-21 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:31:27 +0930, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is a child selector: http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/CR-CSS21-20040225/selector.html#child-selectors html#wrap means element with id=wrap inside html (but not inside other element inside html). If its not body id=wrap (or head) then it

Re: [WSG] Please explain use of html#____

2004-12-21 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Kornel Lesinski wrote: So, in this case it's CSS hack. AFAIK IE5/win ignores and + selectors and iterprets it as html #wrap. Still trying to find out which browsers mistakenly apply this. IE5/5.5/6 seem to rightly ignore the rule. The closest I came was the star-7 hack http://centricle.com/ref

Re: [WSG] W3C what are they doing ?

2004-12-22 Thread Kornel Lesinski
- I doubt XHTML 2/DOM 3 will hit the main stream for a number of years (at least 5). So I wouldn't start worrying about it now. - I don't think XHTML 2/DOM 3 have be designed with developers in mind. These guys are not thinking about our immediate needs - they are thinking about the direction of

Re: [WSG] opera float question

2004-12-22 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Opera7 doesn't allow fieldsets to float. Bug. -- regards, Kornel Lesiski ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help

Re: [WSG] Why style to IE?

2004-12-27 Thread Kornel Lesinski
If you make commercial sites you must live with the fact that it is mainly for IE. Loudest f. you I can tell to IE is Firebar: http://hpstudios.homeip.net/Firebar.html Usually I don't have to trash the code with conditional comments. * html {} and * {} css hacks are enough. I try to make pages

Re: [WSG] Why style to IE?

2004-12-27 Thread Kornel Lesinski
I think it is important *not to* buildtest in IE first. You have to avoid building your code on top of some IE bug/quirk. It is much less work to force IE to behave well, than making all other browsers misbehave like IE. For that matter I build and test pages for Firefox and Opera7 first (having

Re: [WSG] Why style to IE?

2004-12-27 Thread Kornel Lesinski
The only bug/quirk with IE that I've come across that needed my attention was the big one: box model. I prefer to use the box in a box sort of workaround This needs excessive divs and without IE support for '' selector requires them additionally messed with lots of id/classes. Why serve any

Re: [WSG] learning CSS

2004-12-27 Thread Kornel Lesinski
I am learning CSS tricks (I know the star hack) but where can I find out about Vicki's 'conditional comments' and Kornel's *{} ?? Where is this stuff documented? http://positioniseverything.net/explorer.html is a great resource for IE bugs and hacks. Conditional Comments:

Re: [WSG] Browser Check - such inconsistencies!

2004-12-28 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Konqueror 3.0.5 Wow, amazing it works. CSS in Konq 3.0 is sooo bug ridden. Safaried Konq 3.3 behaves much better. IE4 - PC Ignore it. IE4 is suicidcal when it comes to CSS. All Versions of Opera If in Opera 6, you can ignore it. But if it breaks in latest Opera you have a problem. Opera 7.5

Re: [WSG] page not validating as xhtml 1.0 strict - explanation?

2004-12-29 Thread Kornel Lesinski
i know that one must put block elements inside inline elements with xhtml 1.0 strict, but this isn't the case here? paragraphs are block elements, as are divs. You got this other way round. It's: inline content inside block. p can go inside div, but div in p cannot. p must have inline

Re: [WSG] making money out of web standards

2004-12-29 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Separating content and layout made perfect sense to me as a programmer. XML/XSLT is good 'cos it allows me to modularize sections of a site without having to resort to server-side technologies. ...except server-side XSLT transformation, right? Because XSLT on client side is non-semantic,

Re: [WSG] XSLT on client-side (was: making money out of web standards)

2004-12-29 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 22:48:05 +0800, Wong Chin Shin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, don't really understand what you mean by your statement below. The XSL document may not be readable but the XML can be set to be as readable and descriptive as we want it to? XML has no semantics. Your custom

Re: [WSG] XSLT on client-side (was: making money out of web standards)

2004-12-29 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Won't attempt at going any further as I don't think I'm talking about web standards at any length. XML and XSLT are W3C standards :) If you don't have server-side technologies available, then you may transform your XML using (offline) shell script and upload XHTML to server. -- regards, Kornel

Re: [WSG] Re: stylesheet switching in IE6

2004-12-29 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 22:36:26 +, Patrick H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Erwin Heiser wrote: Ijust cracked it, IE was chocking on the lang=en statement inside div lang=en class=en (in the XHTML code) in combination with this statement div:lang(en) in the style sheet. I remembered that IE

Re: [WSG] Semantic markup for object dimensions/units

2004-12-30 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Any thoughts on semantic markup for object dimensions? For example works of art; height x width x depth 400mm x 800mm x 200mm I can't think of anything better than using unicode 'x' for multiplication. [X]HTML doesn't have any markup for dimensions. -- regards, Kornel Lesiski

[WSG] Funky tags or XHTML2 Transistional

2004-12-31 Thread Kornel Lesinski
I'm thinking about creating my own doctype/DTD and adding some new tags. Instead of having div class=foo or span class=foo I'd like to simpy have foo tag. div and span have no semantic meaning, and foo in practice would have no meaning either, but there are some advantages: - less to write -

Re: [WSG] Funky tags or XHTML2 Transistional

2005-01-01 Thread Kornel Lesinski
First of all, current browsers don't really use the Document Type Definitions provided by the W3C website, they just look for the correct Document Type Declarations. So, they probably will recognise your DT Declaration as another junk and will probably fall back to the quirksmode (I wouldn't

[WSG] comment to Creative Commons RDF in comment

2005-01-04 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Creative Commons gives a bit of XML to paste into your page ...but XML is inside HTML comment. Don't you think it's rather pointless? XML parsers won't pick it up, so if you want to get license info, you have to threat whole file like a tag soup anyway. Do you know tools that read this rdf

Re: [WSG] being framed!

2005-01-05 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 10:29:22 -, designer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frameborder 0 still leaves the space between the frames, so is effectively useless. Oh, indeed. It was a long time since I last used frames :) oveflown elements, server side includes or webmaster-side preprocessing are IMO

Re: [WSG] Interesting Doctype: anyone seen something like that before?

2005-01-05 Thread Kornel Lesinski
!DOCTYPE HTML generated by Dreamweaver, does not conform to W3C open standards Hehe, that's a good one :) OK, they don't want to follow standards, that's okay with me, but blaiming Dreamweaver for that... hey, isn't this the program that many Web Standards activists use? Dreamweaver is just a

Re: [WSG] Slightly OT... Interview with IE Dev team

2005-01-05 Thread Kornel Lesinski
I was wondering if any of you have any specific questions, queries, or comments regarding the development of IE, and more specifically, IE7 which may, or may not, come with Longhorn (before... if we're lucky) Does Microsoft feel resposibility for the web? Do they realize how much web traffic

Re: [WSG] Slightly more OT... Interview with IE Dev team

2005-01-05 Thread Kornel Lesinski
I just went to the main page for Internet explorer to look for some information and while the images were loading, I noticed the alt attribute of one image was Need alt text Maybe that's a cry for help of some poor developer trapped in Redmond? ;) ** QUESTION ** In what condition is Explorer

Re: [WSG] Slightly OT... Interview with IE Dev team

2005-01-05 Thread Kornel Lesinski
responsibility only, which is to maximize return on investment. He has done this incredibly well. I'm deeply worried that Microsoft is just going to make tabbed browsing add-on, to put some fire out, and keep it's 12-year old engine. From their point of view, following web standards is: *

Re: [WSG] Slightly OT... Interview with IE Dev team

2005-01-05 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 11:17:48 +1100, Mariusz Stankiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They should just ship firefox with longthorn and forget about IE7 No, thats crazy talk! ...but they could buy out Opera Software... ;) -- regards, Kornel Lesiski

Re: [WSG] Slightly OT... Interview with IE Dev team

2005-01-06 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Microsoft has been hyping about web-applications more than you'd imagine, the MSDN Library is full of articles on the subject. 3 of the included posters in the 2003 edition are about web-applications. They don't think about W3C-standards based applications. They are just using a buzzrword to

Re: [WSG] Conditional comments

2005-01-06 Thread Kornel Lesinski
What I wondering is, could a comment be used to feed a GIF variant of a logo to IE to replace a PNG (with alpha) that IE doesn't support? Don't double your code. Using apache mod_rewrite and PHP you can make all PNG 'files' to actually contain GIF, if requested by explorer. See:

Re: [WSG] Conditional comments

2005-01-06 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 16:39:46 -0500, Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would do something along the line of the below perhaps, recently did, but am wondering if it is a good idea?: !--[if IE] style h1.one(or something) {visibility:visible} h1.two(or something else) {visibility:invisible} /style

Re: [WSG] G* addressing standards

2005-01-07 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Which standard exactly prohibits use of px as font-size unit? Exactly this one: http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG10-CSS-TECHS/#units and soon this one: http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/WD-WCAG20-CSS-TECHS-20040730/ -- regards, Kornel Lesiski ** The discussion

Re: [WSG] problem with gradient and background in IE/Win

2005-01-08 Thread Kornel Lesinski
in the Fox, the transition between the gradient and the background-color is seamless while in IE/Win (5/5.5/6) the colors suddenly don't match anymore. please disregard the slightly mangled layout. any ideas? Use GIF if you need colors to match exactly. Sad, but true.

Re: [WSG] list spacing

2005-01-10 Thread Kornel Lesinski
You can only set the padding and margin properties if the LI element is block or inline-block. Not inline, I'm afraid. (AFAIK!) or you can set line-height on inline li element. -- regards, Kornel Lesiski ** The discussion list for

Re: [WSG] London Web Standards Conference

2005-01-11 Thread Kornel Lesinski
You can find out more, help to support and register on the shiny new website: http://www.atmedia2005.co.uk Looks interesting, but 345 registration fee is too much for me. -- regards, Kornel Lesiski ** The discussion list for

Re: [WSG] Can I use a table in a form?

2005-01-13 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:01:38 +, Andy Budd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that inputs in a table are ok. This is tabular data, although not output, but input, but the structure certainly is tabular. To read a table user needs to understand its structure (associate content with headings,

Re: [WSG] Can I use a table in a form?

2005-01-13 Thread Kornel Lesinski
If you want to use tables to lay out your forms (or anything else for that matter) then go for it. The point is that it is not layout table. It has semantic value. It's a kind of table that can have summary, caption, headers and contains repeating sets of data. hairs and getting semantic, isn't

Re: [WSG] Zero margin - just sharing

2005-01-14 Thread Kornel Lesinski
I know a lot of people use this: * { margin:0; padding:0; } issue I found with this, was that within dropdowns the downarrow GUI, covers some of the text on the right. That's why I never reset margins/padding for all elements, and just set them (both!) where it matters (body/h1/ul/li).

Re: [WSG] Two CSS Question

2005-01-17 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Well, GMail works on the various browsers (ok, I havent tested *all* of them), so I can report it works there too :) Well, it doesn't work in Opera 7.5x. Opera Software implemented XMLHttpRequest and ActiveX objects emulation (only js side, no real controls), specially for GMail. Opera 8 beta

Re: [WSG] Behaviors

2005-01-17 Thread Kornel Lesinski
can someone provide any piece of information about behaviors in CSS They are IE-only. That's all I care to know. Some useful implementations: http://www.xs4all.nl/~peterned/csshover.html http://dean.edwards.name/IE7/ Microsoft has some docs on the subject:

Re: [WSG] List item spacing problem

2005-01-18 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:49:54 +0400, Marwan Farha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In IE6 the spacing between the subNav list items is perfect but in Firefox they become all squashed up against each other, and i can't seem to find the problem. I'd say that in Firefox list is as it should be, and IE6

Re: [WSG] Required by Depreciated attributes

2005-01-18 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Thing is, I need the ol li ol element to start at a specified number. The HTML4.01 spec says I can use the start= attribute, but that its depreciated... So what replaces the start= attribute in XHTML1.1? I couldn't see anything in CSS about it. Ignore XHTML/1.1. Removal of start is a

Re: [WSG] User Preference Script

2005-01-19 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 19:34:58 +1000, Tony Aslett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would love some feedback on a User Preference Script http://www.csscreator.com/generator/userpref.php Because Opera is not able to modify stylesheet rules, I've been looking for a different solution, and I found one -

Re: [WSG] empty named anchors

2005-01-19 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Empty link elements are not good (as Patrick pointed out)but what about named anchors (destination anchors)? They are obsolete. Refer to any id instead. Is there any reason why they should not be empty? I wouldn't be surprised if it was because of a bug in Netscape4. -- regards, Kornel Lesiski

Re: [WSG] Placing a link text on top of BG image

2005-01-19 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Further to Carmelyne's post I am also having trouble placing link text over the top of background graphics.Surely there must be a way of using CSS to position the text? Yes, there is a simple way: use padding. See http://browsehappy.pl (note: .pl) - heading gfx is just h1 and text is positioned

Re: [WSG] User Preference Script

2005-01-19 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Personally, I don't see the point in JavaScript-powered style switchers when Server-Side works better... Client-side switcher has immediate effect, so it's easier to choose style IMHO. Besides that, there is no real difference. Current browsers' built-in style switcher implementations are

Re: [WSG] Conditional comments

2005-01-19 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Does this really work on IE? Can I really use transparency in my PNG-24 and have IE display it? Or is there some hidden catch? There are several catches. http://dean.edwards.name/IE7/notes/#PNG -- regards, Kornel Lesiski ** The discussion list

Re: [WSG] valid table tags for xhtml strict

2005-01-20 Thread Kornel Lesinski
and got a lot of very unreliable information and not found what I'm looking for. Try the source: http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/ XHTML is based on HTML4, so this also applies (note the Deprecated columns!): http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/index/elements.html

Re: [WSG] valid table tags for xhtml strict

2005-01-20 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Kornel - you might like to double-check your statement that It is not valid in XHTML/1.1 or any Strict [X]HTML version. http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/index/attributes.html indicates that the align attribute it is *NOT* deprecated for COL, COLGROUP, TBODY, TD, TFOOT, TH, THEAD and TR.

Re: [WSG] meta tag standards

2005-01-20 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Is there anything wrong with closing meta tags like so: meta name=keywords content=Web, Development, Design, Hosting, Ecommerce, IT, Consultancy, Logos, Logo, Websites /meta In XML probably not, but tag-soup browsers/robots may try to fix your code and assume that /meta is ment to be

Re: [WSG] valid table tags for xhtml strict

2005-01-20 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Because people expect data cells to be centered under column headings and row headings to be left aligned more often than not? This can be done with CSS. If the alignment is different, will it change the meaning of data? I think not. It's presentational. -- regards, Kornel Lesiski

Re: [WSG] valid table tags for xhtml strict

2005-01-20 Thread Kornel Lesinski
That wasn't my point. The expected result is readily achievable with no CSS at all. The few cell alignments that would deviate from the norm in any given table would require no significant difference in file size from those that require CSS classes for the same purpose, and the stylesheet itself

Re: [WSG] valid table tags for xhtml strict

2005-01-20 Thread Kornel Lesinski
I thought the whole point behind (x)HTML strict was separation of content and presentation. Keeping align attributes does not seem to fit in. I think I've found the reason why these properties are kept. There is a fundamental incompatibility of HTML columns model and CSS inheritance:

Re: [WSG] valid table tags for xhtml strict

2005-01-20 Thread Kornel Lesinski
It is expected, but does it belong to HTML? h1 means header and is expected to look like a header, even if it is small. What makes h1 look like a header if not for a significantly larger size than everything else? Alignment? Font style? Color? Background? Decoration? Letter spacing? People used

Re: [WSG] .php extension

2005-01-20 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:48:49 -0330, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am on a hosted site, where would I find that file? Other .php pages display just not this one. Then you have some fatal error on your page, but server has disabled error display. See it using such php file: ?php

Re: [WSG] IE 6 will not pick up background image

2005-01-21 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Okay I have a page (http://www.m5i.com/m5hr/new/test.php), when I cross-browser check IE will not pick up the background image. Is this a syntax error, do you have to declare the background object a couple different ways ? about syntax errors ask here:

Re: [WSG] The Content Generation[2nd Post]

2005-01-21 Thread Kornel Lesinski
To keep the user informed of the number of pages remaining out of n http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/CR-css3-page-20040225/#pg-based-extensions A UA MUST act as if there was a counter with the name of 'pages' and its initial value was set to the total number of pages. AFAIK currently no browser supports

Re: [WSG] double space after period

2005-01-23 Thread Kornel Lesinski
How about using en/em-space instead of regular space? http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/chars/spaces.html -- regards, Kornel Lesiski ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for

Re: [WSG] Re: Advantage of word-wrapping?

2005-01-23 Thread Kornel Lesinski
In both cases, UAs will render the content exactly the same... I was wondering if there were any advantages to the former... I heard something about some obscure UAs ignoring content beyond the 80th Column or something myth. -- regards, Kornel Lesiski

Re: [WSG] Re: Advantage of word-wrapping?

2005-01-24 Thread Kornel Lesinski
BUT - for development purposes wrapping is far more readable. Same way that code indenting is a nice thing to do but serves no practical purpose. Of course, if you're very concerned about page size (kb wise) the wrapping, indenting etc are just pointless wastes of space. Most of my pages are

Re: [WSG] Future XHTML Proposals?

2005-01-24 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Where the Simple edition is a vastly simplified version where there's less emphasis on content/presentation separation, such as greater support for attribute styles and perhaps a LayoutTable element? Where each LayoutCell has a Context Order informing screen-readers in what order to read

Re: [WSG] content-language

2005-01-24 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:06:00 +, john [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can somebody please explain what the content-language meta tag is useful for? It's not exactly meta tag. It's HTTP header. See: http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc3282.html Is it required for validity? No. I have a site that is being

Re: [WSG] Question about use of flash in a pure css page

2005-01-24 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:03:29 +0100, Sven-Eric Buschgens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem that has occured for the menu we are using a flashbased menu. Is removing flash menu altogether an option? It seems that you can do it with simple :hover and animgif or it might be possible to get

Re: [WSG] content-language

2005-01-24 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 17:08:47 +, john [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally I think that HTML lang (or xml:lang) attributes are more appropriate (and precise). Could you please elaborate more on this? I'm just wondering what I should do for this site, since there are multiple languages.

Re: [WSG] content-language[is it search op?]

2005-01-24 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 10:10:52 -0800, Chris Kennon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would this fall under search engine optimization? If so where could I find more on the subject? http://diveintoaccessibility.org/day_7_identifying_your_language.html -- regards, Kornel Lesiski

Re: [WSG] Right aligned lists...

2005-01-25 Thread Kornel Lesinski
I searched the archives and could not find an answer to my question... Is it possible to generate right-aligned lists with CSS and have the bullet on the right instead of the left? Not really. You can easily simulate this effect using Generated Content and maybe CSS21 counters for ordered lists.

Re: [WSG] XHTML 1.0 Strict and PHP

2005-01-26 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 17:47:47 +, David R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Bo$$ wrote: What about frames? Use ID too? #1: Don't use frames untill XFrames comes out and gets supported #2: You don't need to give any element an ID attribute unless you're doing either a runat=server or doing ECMA/DOM

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