Re: [WSG] IE bug

2004-02-20 Thread Lea de Groot
. (Each browser sets the default layout of some tags a little differently). Quite easy to change with css, eg: form { margin-bottom: 0; } as appropriate :) HIH Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems Brisbane, Australia * The discussion list for http

RE: [WSG] Definition list wish

2004-03-11 Thread Lea de Groot
dtSwallow/dt ddCoconut delivery system/dd /dl /li /ul Once again the two elements have been separated into two different lists, removing semantic information. Bad, bad thing ;) Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems

RE: [WSG] Definition list wish

2004-03-11 Thread Lea de Groot
ever way you really want to mark it up should be fine. But for the purist's argument... above you said 'definition lists' (plural). This is the difference between the two examples; you've ended up with multiple lists, where originally there was only one :) Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems

RE: [WSG] Relative font sizes - resizing in IE

2004-03-17 Thread Lea de Groot
On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 20:43:08 -0500, Kim Buttery wrote: Please explain your acronym AFAIK. Thanks. As Far As I Know http://www.geek2geek.org/ is one place to look up unknown acronyms. There are plenty of others. warmly, Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems Brisbane Australia

Re: [WSG] Browser Stats - What a shock!

2004-03-24 Thread Lea de Groot
did), whereas your CSS most likely *wont* work as expected in NN3/4, and hopefully your visitor numbers are low enough that you dont need to care. The two browsers have completely different code bases. HIH Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - http://elysiansystems.com/ Brisbane, Australia

Re: [WSG] New User

2004-03-26 Thread Lea de Groot
I've been screaming NoNoNoNoNoIDontHaveTime at the walls everytime Russ mentions how great it would be for people to start groups in other cities :) Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - http://elysiansystems.com/ Brisbane, Australia

RE: [WSG] 'Big, dumb web standards'

2004-04-20 Thread Lea de Groot
. The best revenge is success. :) warmly, Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - http://elysiansystems.com/ Brisbane, Australia * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints

Re: [WSG] Alt text for background images

2004-04-22 Thread Lea de Groot
it in the css because it is not Content, it is Presentation, thus they do not need to know about it if they cannot view images. Its fluff, bubbles :) (Our hardworked piccies. Fluff! Bubbles! Bah! g) If they need to be able to see alt text, then it should be in the Content. warmly, Lea -- Lea de Groot

Re: [WSG] Org Charts

2004-04-23 Thread Lea de Groot
be done reliably with CSS alone :( (Google for the discussion) (We were discussing geneology displays, but the format is pretty close :)) Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - http://elysiansystems.com/ Brisbane, Australia * The discussion list

RE: [WSG] Trying to add a back to top link

2004-04-24 Thread Lea de Groot
really want to specify the current page, have you tried $_SERVER['REQUEST_URI'] ? Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - http://elysiansystems.com/ Brisbane, Australia * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http

RE: [WSG] Launched my third xhtml site!!

2004-05-12 Thread Lea de Groot
On Wed, 12 May 2004 00:09:41 -0700 (PDT), Cameron Adams wrote: Can I order a strangulation by proxy? ;o] I wondered why he snuck in late, after we'd done the introductions! g Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - http://elysiansystems.com/ Brisbane, Australia

[WSG] Brisbane Meeting Report

2004-05-12 Thread Lea de Groot
and fun. :) Looking forward to the next one! Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - http://elysiansystems.com/ Brisbane, Australia * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm

Re: [WSG] css and accessibility question

2004-05-12 Thread Lea de Groot
- a quoted string of no length. HIH Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - http://elysiansystems.com/ Brisbane, Australia I ... can mostly solve the problems of the universe in one line of perl -- John Carter * The discussion list for http

Re: [WSG] old browser download site?

2004-05-13 Thread Lea de Groot
On Thu, 13 May 2004 16:40:03 -0500, Kevin McMonagle wrote: Is there anywhere i can download ie windows pre version 6? http://browsers.evolt.org/ All the browsers you can eat. Or something like that... :) warmly, Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - http://elysiansystems.com/ Brisbane

Re: [WSG] CSS calendar

2004-05-14 Thread Lea de Groot
) Lea ~ bah, i hate it when google doesnt give me what I want! -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - http://elysiansystems.com/ Brisbane, Australia * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail

Re: [WSG] floating thumbnails height causes line jumps

2004-05-07 Thread Lea de Groot
On Fri, 7 May 2004 20:08:12 +1000, Lea de Groot wrote: I'm finding that some of the captions are longer than others, and when an image+caption is shorter than one to the left of it, the following row doesnt go all the way across the page, but starts just to the right of the taller block

Re: [WSG] Form Data into Table/Database

2004-05-08 Thread Lea de Groot
are getting from your cross-post on webdesign-l? warmly, Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - http://elysiansystems.com/ Brisbane, Australia * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail

Re: [WSG] Web essentials is now active!

2004-05-06 Thread Lea de Groot
On Thu, 06 May 2004 17:21:30 +1000, russ - maxdesign wrote: Early bird rates apply till 1 July 2000 Darn, and I only missed it by 4 years! duck Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - http://elysiansystems.com/ Brisbane, Australia

RE: [WSG] Is a degree necessary? THREAD CLOSED - Open it back up! Please.

2004-05-15 Thread Lea de Groot
the respect they deserve and bring only those discussions here. HIH Lea ~ not a list moderator and definitely not a government employee -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - http://elysiansystems.com/ Brisbane, Australia * The discussion list for http

Re: [WSG] A tip on using multiple CSS classes

2004-04-30 Thread Lea de Groot
(sp?) warmly, Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - http://elysiansystems.com/ Brisbane, Australia * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list

Re: [WSG] A tip on using multiple CSS classes

2004-05-01 Thread Lea de Groot
decided that it was undetermined by the spec how it should be handled, therefore different browsers could handle it different ways. But I'm happy to bow to your greater knowledge :) warmly, Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - http://elysiansystems.com/ Brisbane, Australia

Re: [WSG] A tip on using multiple CSS classes

2004-05-01 Thread Lea de Groot
(sp?) warmly, Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - http://elysiansystems.com/ Brisbane, Australia * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list

Re: [WSG] Australian Communications Authority

2004-05-02 Thread Lea de Groot
information on standards based development. Perhaps an equivalent of the US 508 legislation? Loath as I am to encourage more legislation passing, any thoughts on how we can get something like this here? Lea ~ cant beleive I am typing this... -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - http://elysiansystems.com

Re: [WSG] Request: Is it semantically correct?

2004-05-02 Thread Lea de Groot
ddEastern Europe: 48 births for 1000 women/dd ddWestern Europe: 22 births for 1000 women/dd /dl (thats what I'd do - mind you, this is the 30-second take as I am being called for breakfast!) Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - http://elysiansystems.com/ Brisbane, Australia

Re: [WSG] javascript form submission

2004-05-18 Thread Lea de Groot
if it isn't. All your client-side validation would be missing, but thats duplicated server-side and is only on the client for user-convenience, right? :) HIH Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - I Understand the Internet http://elysiansystems.com/ Web Design (Usability, Information Architecture

Re: OT - Safari stability [WSG] should I track down this problem?

2004-05-20 Thread Lea de Groot
, and a restart fixes it :) Lea ~ who might be able to argue that discussing the stability of a standards-compliant browser is on-topic? -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - I Understand the Internet http://elysiansystems.com/ Web Design, Usability, Information Architecture, Search Engine Optimisation

RE: [WSG]

2004-05-25 Thread Lea de Groot
. :) warmly, Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - I Understand the Internet http://elysiansystems.com/ Web Design, Usability, Information Architecture, Search Engine Optimisation Brisbane, Australia * The discussion list for http

RE: [WSG] legal requirements for accessability

2004-05-26 Thread Lea de Groot
inaccessible items which weren't in your original design, unless they are under your oversight, then you aren't responsible, although to cover your bum you probably want to keep copies of your design work :) ymmv Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - I Understand the Internet http://elysiansystems.com

RE: [WSG] legal requirements for accessability

2004-05-26 Thread Lea de Groot
contrast but the client wants it anyway, etc... Hon, if your advice is 'make it accessible' and they then don't make it accessible, it wont be *you* at risk, surely :) Particularly when you keep your correspondance to show that you *did* tell them to make it accessible, as above :) Lea -- Lea de

[WSG]

2004-05-28 Thread Lea de Groot
Sergio Villarreal has written 'Tables Vs. CSS - A Fight to the Death', a SitePoint article where he does the same design in tables and then in css, and then comes to some conclusions about which was better. http://www.sitepoint.com/article/tables-vs-css Interesting read. Lea -- Lea de Groot

Re: [WSG] Tables Vs. CSS - A Fight to the Death

2004-05-28 Thread Lea de Groot
, and the browsers will improve and require fewer hacks. And we'll look back to the good old days when you *really* had to know your stuff to build a good looking webpage ;) Lea ~ sorry for forgetting the subject, guys! Its the toddler trying to drag me off my chair, really! g -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems

[WSG] quotes on q tag

2004-05-31 Thread Lea de Groot
the compliant browsers. Lea ~ and if anyone can tell me what to call the little blocks of text that are pulled out and the surrounding paragraph wraps around it, I will be forever in your debt! Makes googling difficult when you can't remember what the silly things are called -- Lea de Groot Elysian

Re: [WSG] quotes on q tag

2004-05-31 Thread Lea de Groot
pull-quote Thanks guys! warmly, Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - I Understand the Internet http://elysiansystems.com/ Web Design, Usability, Information Architecture, Search Engine Optimisation Brisbane, Australia * The discussion list

Re: [WSG] Selector naming conventions

2004-05-31 Thread Lea de Groot
/whats_in_a_name.html - hot off the presses, even :) warmly, Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - I Understand the Internet http://elysiansystems.com/ Web Design, Usability, Information Architecture, Search Engine Optimisation Brisbane, Australia * The discussion

Re: [WSG] position image over div

2004-06-01 Thread Lea de Groot
suggestions welcome. images/hot_tub_spa.gif is the image, to save others time in the hunt :) That image has size 168x150, while the div using the image as a background is set to have a height of 100px. Perhaps increasing this number might help? HIH Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - I

Re: [WSG] position image over div

2004-06-01 Thread Lea de Groot
the divs there to put it on top :( What about some negative padding on the 'header'? (Ewww!) HIH Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - I Understand the Internet http://elysiansystems.com/ Web Design, Usability, Information Architecture, Search Engine Optimisation Brisbane, Australia

RE: [WSG] Anti-spam mailto encoders using Character Entity Evasion

2004-06-04 Thread Lea de Groot
that I also hide the 'mailto:' part. Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - I Understand the Internet http://elysiansystems.com/ Web Design, Usability, Information Architecture, Search Engine Optimisation Brisbane, Australia * The discussion list

Re: [WSG] Relative font sizes without relative dimension units

2004-06-05 Thread Lea de Groot
either, but it is Saturday :) Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - I Understand the Internet http://elysiansystems.com/ Web Design, Usability, Information Architecture, Search Engine Optimisation Brisbane, Australia * The discussion list for http

Re: [WSG] What Editors do you guys use?

2004-06-05 Thread Lea de Groot
On Sat, 5 Jun 2004 23:07:25 -0500, helmut wrote: What CSS/XHTML/HTML editors do you guys use for hand coding and testing? Under ISX, ATM, subethaedit - http://www.codingmonkeys.de/subethaedit/ HIH Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - I Understand the Internet http://elysiansystems.com/ Web

Re: [WSG] getting ride of table layout

2004-06-07 Thread Lea de Groot
. Google is your friend. :) HIH Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - I Understand the Internet http://elysiansystems.com/ Web Design, Usability, Information Architecture, Search Engine Optimisation Brisbane, Australia * The discussion list

ADMIN - OT Re: [WSG] IE 7 Promo Images

2004-06-07 Thread Lea de Groot
find one for this sort of discussion? http://webdesign-l.com/ is one suggestion. Thanks, Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - I Understand the Internet http://elysiansystems.com/ Web Design, Usability, Information Architecture, Search Engine Optimisation Brisbane, Australia

Re: [WSG] KHTML ??

2004-06-10 Thread Lea de Groot
+khtmlhl=en vs. http://www.konqueror.org/ Lea ~ Must Sleep... -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - I Understand the Internet http://elysiansystems.com/ Web Design, Usability, Information Architecture, Search Engine Optimisation Brisbane, Australia

Re: [WSG] Interesting reading

2004-06-14 Thread Lea de Groot
level? or Mind your language, please! Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - I Understand the Internet http://elysiansystems.com/ Web Design, Usability, Information Architecture, Search Engine Optimisation Brisbane, Australia * The discussion

Re: [WSG] Must Read

2004-06-16 Thread Lea de Groot
. Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - I Understand the Internet http://elysiansystems.com/ Web Design, Usability, Information Architecture, Search Engine Optimisation Brisbane, Australia * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

[WSG] font-family support

2004-06-20 Thread Lea de Groot
thought it was fine to let the browser default, but apparently not! :( Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - I Understand the Internet http://elysiansystems.com/ Web Design, Usability, Information Architecture, Search Engine Optimisation Brisbane, Australia

Re: [WSG] OT - Standards Compliant Websites Directory

2004-06-23 Thread Lea de Groot
with the characteristics of someone's message please speak to them directly. The other 732 members really don't care and often get annoyed at the waste of their time. thanks! Lea -- Lea de Groot WSG Core Member * The discussion list for http

Re: [WSG] Linking Background Images

2004-07-04 Thread Lea de Groot
on your repeating-x example. HIH! Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - I Understand the Internet http://elysiansystems.com/ Web Design, Usability, Information Architecture, Search Engine Optimisation Brisbane, Australia * The discussion list

[WSG] Brisbane Meeting Wednesday July 14

2004-07-13 Thread Lea de Groot
forgotten about it, its not too late to RSVP! (Or just turn up ;)) warmly, Lea -- Lea de Groot * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting

[WSG] Brisbane July Meeting - Report

2004-07-16 Thread Lea de Groot
standards compliant. This month, Marc told us why we should. :) A very interesting and detailed open forum followed - for those who were unable to attend, you *really* missed something! Next meeting should be Wed September 8 - put it in your diary now! :) warmly, Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian

Re: [WSG] Brisbane July Meeting - Report

2004-07-16 Thread Lea de Groot
location :) (Or you could book a ticket for September ;)) Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - I Understand the Internet http://elysiansystems.com/ Web Design, Usability, Information Architecture, Search Engine Optimisation Brisbane, Australia

[WSG] A California meeting? was Brisbane July Meeting - Report

2004-07-16 Thread Lea de Groot
! (and, on the assumption that CA state is a moderately large place - particularly hands up whose in the general Marina Del Rey area?) warmly, Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - http://elysiansystems.com/ Brisbane, Australia * The discussion list for http

Re: [WSG] Re: Does a CSS file load all graphics or only page relevant ones?

2004-07-19 Thread Lea de Groot
been changed in later versions. It would be fairly simple to test for various browsers. warmly, Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - I Understand the Internet http://elysiansystems.com/ Web Design, Usability, Information Architecture, Search Engine Optimisation Brisbane, Australia

Re: [WSG] technique of converting to tablefree layout

2004-07-21 Thread Lea de Groot
? :) Thanks, all Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - I Understand the Internet http://elysiansystems.com/ Web Design, Usability, Information Architecture, Search Engine Optimisation Brisbane, Australia * The discussion list for http

Thread closed Re: [WSG] Search Tool

2004-07-28 Thread Lea de Groot
questions to Web Standards issues. Could anyone interested please send their replies off list? Thanks, Lea -- Lea de Groot WSG Core Group * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm

[WSG] image placement

2004-08-12 Thread Lea de Groot
technique that will let me wrap the text around it. (cross browser that is - this is a real world page that needs to look good in IE :( ) any ideas on how to separate the content and the pres on this one? Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - http://elysiansystems.com/ Brisbane, Australia

Re: [WSG] image placement

2004-08-12 Thread Lea de Groot
On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 03:33:02 +0100, Patrick H. Lauke wrote: p { background: url(someimage.png) no-repeat left top; } p:first-letter { padding-left: 15px; } Would that work? I was thinking of text-indent, but it only does the one line. Works in IE5.5 onwards. 5 and below don't quite get it,

Re: [WSG] image placement

2004-08-12 Thread Lea de Groot
. I think I will opt for 'clean' on the grounds that I dont write any raw html, all my code is generated from php, so I am doing things like OOO at the code level, rather than the markup :) Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - http://elysiansystems.com/ Brisbane, Australia

ADMIN: THREAD CLOSED Re: [WSG] AntiSpam Alert from tbrick52

2004-08-21 Thread Lea de Groot
about this, the lesson is obvious - if you find these whitelist systems useful, ensure any mailing list you join is added to your whitelist before you start receiving messages, or suffer embarrassment in the community. Thanks, Lea -- Lea de Groot WSG Core Group

Re: [WSG] Can someone tell me... (long)

2004-08-22 Thread Lea de Groot
down to the block of interest, then change the little square blob with the drop down arrow on the details pane (stupid that it doesnt have a name attached - how are we supposed to discuss it?) to say 'CSS Style Rules' Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - http://elysiansystems.com/ Brisbane

Re: [WSG] Can someone tell me... (long)

2004-08-22 Thread Lea de Groot
in Firebird? I've no idea when they introduced that one! Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - http://elysiansystems.com/ Brisbane, Australia ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http

Re: [WSG] [OT] NZ vs Aust

2004-08-25 Thread Lea de Groot
preferred topic is, Scott - saves me having to assign one, you know ;) Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - http://elysiansystems.com/ Brisbane, Australia ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web

Re: [WSG] PHP is stopping my page validating as xhtml 1.0 Strict

2004-08-25 Thread Lea de Groot
tag. DIV is a common choice for this. FIELDSET is an excellent choice HIH Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - http://elysiansystems.com/ Brisbane, Australia ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web

ADMIN: THREAD CLOSED Re: [WSG] [OT] Monospaced Unicode Font

2004-08-27 Thread Lea de Groot
replies back to Peter, not the list. Guys, we've got a few of these absolutely-nothing-to-do-with-web-standards posts sneaking in again. Can we find more appropriate venues, please? Thanks, Lea -- Lea de Groot WSG Core member ** The discussion

Re: [WSG] ADMIN THREAD CLOSED was Sitepoint Web Business Kit

2004-09-02 Thread Lea de Groot
, validate. So obviously it is not very important to his business at this point in time. So, you agree - its offtopic. eg Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - I Understand the Internet http://elysiansystems.com/ The leading a href=http://elysiansystems.com/;Brisbane Search Engine Optimisation

Re: [WSG] Interview markup?

2004-09-05 Thread Lea de Groot
Clearly, the second of these is *not* a definition, and is somewhat close to an interview. A Definition List, despite its poor name, is useful for linking series of two elements. A1-A2 B1-B2 C1-C2 (yes, also D1-D2, D3) I think its perfect for an interview type layout Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian

[WSG] Brisbane Meeting, Wednesday

2004-09-05 Thread Lea de Groot
PROTECTED] if you haven't already done so - usual location, 6:30 start for 7PM. Drop us a line if you like to come but aren't familiar with the location and we'll fill you in :) warmly, Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - I Understand the Internet http://elysiansystems.com/ Web Design

Re: [WSG] Brisbane Meeting, Wednesday

2004-09-09 Thread Lea de Groot
the list to worry about right now; no one reads my blog anyway. Well, I guess that isn't true tonight :)) Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - I Understand the Internet http://elysiansystems.com/ Web Design, Usability, Information Architecture, Search Engine Optimisation Brisbane, Australia

Re: [WSG] Web standards planet

2004-09-12 Thread Lea de Groot
does the site do for me? Should I add my blog? If so, how? What am i supposed to do with this long list of sites? (I mean this literally, not critically - how am I supposed to use them? It isn't very readable and doesn't add any information to the list-of-site concept. HIH Lea -- Lea de Groot

Re: [WSG] Image work around

2004-09-18 Thread Lea de Groot
. bg Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - http://elysiansystems.com/ Brisbane, Australia ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration

Re: [WSG] screen resolution and standards

2004-09-24 Thread Lea de Groot
, but a good (does some mental arithmetic) 40% arent. (I use a small js generated web bug to record this sort of data and mention in the privacy policy that I do that, for those who want to know) warmly, Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - http://elysiansystems.com/ Brisbane, Australia

Re: [WSG] Vignette and web standards = disaster?

2004-10-12 Thread Lea de Groot
email much :( Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - I Understand the Internet http://elysiansystems.com/ Search Engine Optimisation, Usability, Information Architecture, Web Design Brisbane, Australia ** The discussion list for http

Re: [WSG] Semantics of Breadcrumb you are here links

2004-10-15 Thread Lea de Groot
on it. Perhaps it just seems overkill? HIH Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - I Understand the Internet http://elysiansystems.com/ Search Engine Optimisation, Usability, Information Architecture, Web Design Brisbane, Australia ** The discussion list

Re: [WSG] AOHell

2004-09-28 Thread Lea de Groot
that there are no visitors using X because its either been excluded through browser sniffing or looks so bad that they leave straight away -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - I Understand the Internet http://elysiansystems.com/ WebTalk: Putting Businesses on the Internet - a newsletter at http://elysiansystems.com

Re: [WSG] Letterhead/footer using print style?

2004-10-01 Thread Lea de Groot
On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 11:53:16 +0200, Lorenzo Gabba wrote: Is it possible to create a 'hidden' letterhead and footer that would only show up in printed documents from a website? Certainly. Look at the media attribute for the link and style tags, eg. style type=text/css media=screen@import

Re: [WSG] floating image

2004-10-01 Thread Lea de Groot
the image, too. (Thank you for asking, I had a need for this on a page and the answer sprang straight into my head when I saw your question :)) warmly, Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - http://elysiansystems.com/ Brisbane, Australia

Re: [WSG] WSG Melbourne: Meet Doug Bowman and Dave Shea

2004-10-03 Thread Lea de Groot
make it up to Brisbane I can assure you we'll move the meeting to suit your times! :) Lea ~ not another meeting due until November, though :( -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - I Understand the Internet http://elysiansystems.com/ WebTalk: Putting Businesses on the Internet - a newsletter at http

Re: [WSG] best tags for FAQs

2004-10-03 Thread Lea de Groot
://www.maxdesign.com.au/presentation/definition/ HIH Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - I Understand the Internet http://elysiansystems.com/ Search Engine Optimisation, Usability, Information Architecture, Web Design Brisbane, Australia WebTalk: Putting Businesses on the Internet - a newsletter

ADMIN - thread closed was Re: [WSG] timezone other than GMT+10?

2004-10-06 Thread Lea de Groot
this as a suggestion for a repeat? Thanks, Lea ~ Ben, you also need to look into functions and unit testing -- Lea de Groot WSG Core Group ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail

Re: [WSG] Help. 2 extra words breaks the page

2004-10-07 Thread Lea de Groot
it looked fine in Safari for me :) Screenshot coming offlist Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - I Understand the Internet http://elysiansystems.com/ Search Engine Optimisation, Usability, Information Architecture, Web Design Brisbane, Australia

ADMIN Re: [WSG] Foreign Translations

2004-10-19 Thread Lea de Groot
cross-language content in a standards-based way is very on-topic for this list - please continue with that, its interesting and useful - pricing is offtopic. Anything beyond the standards relevant parts, please take offlist. Thanks, Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - I Understand the Internet

Re: [WSG] Semantics of Breadcrumb you are here links

2004-10-21 Thread Lea de Groot
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 16:14:51 +1000, russ - maxdesign wrote: http://www.maxdesign.com.au/jobs/css/list-obsessed/ Hey, Russ zeroed the margins and padding on the global element! Lea ~ must.. adopt.. serious.. demeanour... -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - I Understand the Internet http

Re: [WSG] select as form label

2004-10-21 Thread Lea de Groot
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 10:15:53 +1000, Nick Lo wrote: So my question is really; is the label around a select element essentially pointless? Nick, have you looked a the fieldset tag? Its useful for grouping fields together. HIH Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - http://elysiansystems.com

Re: [WSG] Firefox Promotion

2004-10-22 Thread Lea de Groot
unreasonable. The good people at WaSP - The Web Standards Project - are responsible for Browse Happy. I don't think W3c does anything (specific) about promoting browsers, and that probably correct too, as they should not be accused of bias. HIH Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - http

Re: [WSG] Circle menu

2004-10-24 Thread Lea de Groot
-- Lea de Groot WSG Core Group ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **

[WSG] Brisbane November Meeting

2004-10-24 Thread Lea de Groot
there! Details on the website, as usual: http://webstandardsgroup.org/go/event20.cfm warmly, Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - I Understand the Internet http://elysiansystems.com/ Search Engine Optimisation, Usability, Information Architecture, Web Design Brisbane, Australia

Re: [WSG] dublin core and search engines

2004-10-25 Thread Lea de Groot
case where they go on for pages and pages - but I don't imagine you have that many? If in doubt, do the test - take them out for a month and see what happens, even if only on one page. Remember to measure. But my gut instinct is to call 'crock', myself :) Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - I

ADMIN Re: [WSG] skip to content (was: Site Review Request)

2004-10-27 Thread Lea de Groot
On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 09:37:41 +0100, john wrote: A. skip to content B. skip to main content C. skip navigation I think we have strayed way off topic now. Can people please direct replies directly to John? Thanks, Lea -- Lea de Groot WSG Core member

RE: [WSG] Help with fieldset in a li

2004-10-28 Thread Lea de Groot
the 'for', but I could be wrong as I don't do that either :) Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - I Understand the Internet http://elysiansystems.com/ Search Engine Optimisation, Usability, Information Architecture, Web Design Brisbane, Australia

Re: [WSG] Margin Madness

2004-10-31 Thread Lea de Groot
, but i have had a couple of layouts where I couldn't get it to work without defining a border - so I defined a border to match the background colour. hacky... but it got the job done. :( Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - http://elysiansystems.com/ Brisbane, Australia

Re: [WSG] 6 days of WSG meeting frenzy

2004-11-07 Thread Lea de Groot
Vaughan hates having to eat all that extra cake if we overcater ;) I expect we'll also be discussing if we want to do a xmas get together - its almost that season! (Not already??) warmly, Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - I Understand the Internet http://elysiansystems.com/ Search Engine

Re: [WSG] 6 days of WSG meeting frenzy

2004-11-07 Thread Lea de Groot
On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 22:50:22 -0800, Rick Faaberg wrote: But they can't eat it too! Oh yes we can - and if you'd come visit, I'd serve you some myself. ;) Lea ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

[WSG] Brisbane November Meeting Canc^h^h^h - Postponed

2004-11-09 Thread Lea de Groot
will be held on the 2nd Wednesday of February (9th February 2005) to maintain the two month gap and maximise the possible attendance after the holiday period. Update your diaries, folks! We'll be taking RSVPs Real Soon Now! warmly, Lea de Groot Gary Menzel Brisbane Organisers ~ hmmm... green

Re: [WSG] Brisbane November Meeting Canc^h^h^h - Postponed

2004-11-09 Thread Lea de Groot
On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 00:21:42 -0800, Rick Faaberg wrote: But Lea you promised to personally serve me cake! :-) Consider it a standing offer. You grace us with your presence at a Brisbane meeting and I'll serve you cake ;) Lea ** The discussion

Re: [WSG] Site Check please

2004-11-10 Thread Lea de Groot
with javascript to pass the timezone and *then* php will know the client timezone. Bit dodgy, though. HIH Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - I Understand the Internet http://elysiansystems.com/ Search Engine Optimisation, Usability, Information Architecture, Web Design Brisbane, Australia

RE: [WSG] Another body tag question ...

2004-11-13 Thread Lea de Groot
of the css properties; I use it all the time for 'what are the values of...' and 'what the heck does that do?' :) HIH Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - I Understand the Internet http://elysiansystems.com/ Search Engine Optimisation, Usability, Information Architecture, Web Design Brisbane

Re: [WSG] Validate Inside Your Firewall

2004-11-14 Thread Lea de Groot
found assumes the page is web-accessable :( Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - I Understand the Internet http://elysiansystems.com/ Search Engine Optimisation, Usability, Information Architecture, Web Design Brisbane, Australia

RE: [WSG] Validate Inside Your Firewall

2004-11-14 Thread Lea de Groot
://www.hisoftware.com/accmonitorsitetest/ or http://bobby.watchfire.com/bobby/ ... but these both require the checked item to be web accessible. Anyone? I'm thinking I'll have to create my own toolbar :( Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - I Understand the Internet http://elysiansystems.com

Re: [WSG] Unsubscribing

2004-11-21 Thread Lea de Groot
the list will include the ability to go no-mail. So, all things with time! Lea ~ with core group member hat set to on -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - I Understand the Internet http://elysiansystems.com/ Search Engine Optimisation, Usability, Information Architecture, Web Design Brisbane

ADMIN - THREAD CLOSED Re: [WSG] Unsubscribing

2004-11-21 Thread Lea de Groot
-- Lea de Groot WSG Core member hat firmly on. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **

Re: [WSG] Weird CSS validation issue

2004-11-24 Thread Lea de Groot
, it doesnt see #fff, it sees 7364#fff872 type of thing. Try selecting all the supposedly white space around the first error (do all the lines above it to be sure) and re-hitting the spacebar. I've had weird things happen occasionally that way, although not recently. HIH Lea -- Lea de Groot

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