[WSG] Accessites.org Launches: Good-bye Accessible Site Stereotypes

2006-02-14 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
(Some of you may be interested in this. If cross-post, please forgive -Mike) Accessites.org Launches: Good-bye Accessible Site Stereotypes One of the most challenging marriages is that of accessibility with style. Some erroneously think in general terms that the two are in complete

Re: [WSG] TARGET in 4.01 Strict

2006-02-15 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
If I *have* to open a new window, I use this: onclick="target='_blank'" onkeypress="target='_blank'" It is still script dependent, and does work with key operation as well. Mike Cherimhttp://green-beast.com/http://accessites.org/ How does one open a new windo

Re: [WSG] TARGET in 4.01 Strict

2006-02-15 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
within the CMS. [1] http://greenbeastcms.com/ Sincerely, Mike Cherimhttp://green-beast.com/http://accessites.org/ [pony mode]?¿? This seems a little ridiculous to me. Just because a page/site, passes the automated W3C test, does not make it standards compliant. Tricking the validator into thinking

Re: [WSG] help with jello mold

2006-02-19 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Looking with Firefox 1.0.7, I get a horizontal scroll bar. It looks "broken" but I don't know the layout you're trying to achieve. I was looking at the source and I noticed your body tag is broken.Could that be causing problems? bodydiv id="sizer" Mike Cherimhttp://

Re: [WSG] FireFox eating Div

2006-02-21 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
{ text-align : left; margin : 10px 0 10px 0;} ul#nav li {display: inline;} To answer your question, I don't use IE as my default browser, but since most of my sites' visitors use it, it's rather important to me :) HTH. Sincerely, Mike Cherimhttp://green-beast.com/http://accessites.org

Re: [WSG] FireFox eating Div

2006-02-22 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
{ text-align : left; margin : 10px 0 10px 0;} ul#nav li {display: inline;} To answer your question, I don't use IE as my default browser, but since most of my sites' visitors use it, it's rather important to me :) HTH. Sincerely, Mike Cherimhttp://green-beast.com/http://accessites.org

Re: [WSG] Introduction and first submission

2006-02-23 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Sharon wrote: [...] I am Sharron a resident of the state of Texas, USA. I am a fairly newcomer to css, validation etcetera. [...] Welcome Sharon! Sincerely, Mike Cherim http://green-beast.com/ http://accessites.org/ ** The discussion list

Re: [WSG] Screen reader recommendations???

2006-02-28 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Hello Michael, Try the Opera 8.5 browser [1]. Sounds very much like the stand-alone products and it's very simple and convenient to use. Great test tool. [1] http://www.opera.com/ Sincerely, Mike Cherim http://green-beast.com/ http://accessites.org/ - Original Message - From

Re: [WSG] WordPress - XHTML 1.0 Strict compliance template

2006-03-02 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
it up with a Transitional DTD to allow more user flexibility. I offer a Wordpress theme [1] and it is written to the XHTML 1.0 Strict DTD. [1] http://green-beast.com/blog/?page_id=58 Please note, however, that some plug-ins may require modification. Sincerely, Mike Cherim http://green-beast.com

Re: [WSG] Announcing GrayBit v0.5 Beta

2006-03-10 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
I'd continue this on one more time to solicit responses. Does an anyone have any additional feedback, good, bad, or otherwise? Thank you. Sincerely, Mike Cherim http://green-beast.com/ http://accessites.org/ http://graybit.com/ [1] PS. To anyone that missed my original posting, I have

Re: [WSG] Announcing GrayBit v0.5 Beta

2006-03-11 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Russ, Steve, Thank you. Mike Cherim http://green-beast.com/ http://accessites.org/ http://graybit.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting

Re: [WSG] background won't repeat-y

2007-03-04 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
on the body, put that line there. If can be adjusted inward as well on the same line if you need it. Hope this helps. Respectfully, Mike Cherim http://green-beast.com/ PS. I would also add background-color : #fff; to the body element in your CSS. - Original Message - From: Dwain

Re: [WSG] New Project - Feedback Appreciated

2007-03-05 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Fantastic work, Sarah. My only comment is that I'd put your rounded corners in spans instead of divs. Seems like it'd be more semantic. Being they're just holding images and not really divisions. Respectfully, Mike Cherim http://green-beast.com/ - Original Message - From: Sarah

Re: [WSG] New Yorker Redesign

2007-03-27 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
direction. Mike Cherim http://green-beast.com - Original Message - From: John Horner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 6:58 PM Subject: [WSG] New Yorker Redesign Speaking of redesigns, http://www.newyorker.com/ is looking very nice these days

Re: [WSG] what is semantic?

2007-04-23 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
I would really appreciate if any tell me what is the term called semantic? Maybe this article by Mel Pedley will help shed some light on semantics for you, Navii. http://accessites.org/site/2007/04/semantics-why-bother/ Cheers. Mike Cherim http://green-beast.com

Re: [WSG] problem with 1 and 1 wordpress blog

2007-05-06 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Hello Dwain, To create a static page in WordPress just go Write in the admin, then select Page in the sub-menu. Just use the default template probably or a page template if one exists. It differs from the Post in that it becomes a dedicated page and even appears on a separate pages menu. To

Re: [WSG] Acronym tag usage

2007-05-10 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Hello Criag, Just how extensive should our use of the acronym tag be? Not very, IMO. We have some food for thought for you at Accessites. http://accessites.org/site/2007/02/dealing-with-acronyms-abbreviations/ Cheers. Mike

Re: [WSG] Acronym tag usage

2007-05-11 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
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Re: [WSG] Accessible, complex forms

2007-05-14 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
that input to look as it does in the email. input#amt { border : 0; border-bottom : 1px solid #000; } I really don't understand what you're asking for regarding the select at the end. Hope this helps. Cheers. Mike Cherim http://green-beast.com/ - Original Message - From: Greg

Re: [WSG] Semantics and small

2007-05-16 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Patrick H. Lauke wrote: For less important, there currently isn't an alternative, so small (albeit presentational) may be the only option ... or just going for a span, which is semantically just as meaningless. FWIW, I use the small element on my blog, on my latest WordPress theme, and for

Re: [WSG] dl v table for form layout

2007-05-22 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Steve Green wrote: No, a form is not a list of form controls [...] I agree. A form is not a list, nor is it tabular data. I know this was originally a demonstration to show the lesser of two evils, but evil is evil so less wrong still isn't right. What I don't understand is why there is this

Re: [WSG] Mocking up web interfaces

2007-05-24 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
David Laakso wrote Notepad. Me too. In my head I establish the looks of the design have a feel for colors, and know of some images, or a good idea of what I want in the end anyway (I can see the final product in my mind's eye), but I don't mock it up. I go right to Notepad and begin the

Re: [WSG] dl v table for form layout

2007-05-24 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Mariusz Nowak wrote: And other way - where it is written in specs that forms cannot contain tabular data? I would never use tables for anything else as for tabular data.. and it may happen that form constitutes tabular data. In such case I think we should use table element to structure

Re: [WSG] dl v table for form layout

2007-05-24 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Sander Aarts wrote: Does a form not have a sort of QA going on then!? Hello Sander, If one tries hard enough, it seems anything can be considered a list of sorts. For example: A web page is a list of headings and content paragraphs, but we wouldn't use a list to layout an entire web page,

Re: [WSG] Map of Australia Image Map

2007-05-24 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Felisimina wrote: We are trying to put together a map of Australia where the states appear on hover and are clickable. As I understand it, the hover state can't be used in area so I wonder if there is a way to display the States on hover without using javascript? Hello Felisimina,

Re: [WSG] dl v table for form layout

2007-05-24 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
.456bereastreet.com/archive/200701/styling_form_controls_with_css_revisited/ Sorry if I was unclear in my previous posts. Hopefully my message is clearer this time 'round. Cheers. Mike Cherim http://green-beast.com/ *** List Guidelines

Re: [WSG] dl v table for form layout

2007-05-25 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Karl Lurman wrote: How am I going to highlight the label input pair without a container div? A fieldset? Hello Karl, I will add a div or paragraph to a form if needed. A division in the form normally marked by color or a border is okay (as that slight meaning will be carried by the Div in

Re: [WSG] dl v table for form layout

2007-05-25 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Good morning :-) I should have expanded my example a little more since I do use the for attribute in labels, even when directly (implicitly?) associated: form fieldset legendSend us your contact info/legend pFields marked with * (asterisk) are required./p label

Re: [WSG] dl v table for form layout

2007-05-25 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
David Dorward wrote: Why not? In response to... Stuart Foulstone wrote: The for attribute should NOT be used when the label tag encloses the label text. My question exactly. I can't see that it is in any way harmful. Cheers. Mike Cherim

Re: [WSG] The use of asterisks in forms to indicate required fields

2007-05-26 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
. dfn title=Require field*/dfn But the same issue applies to DFN as it pertains to the expansion of titles -- I think. That's my two cents, anyway. I'll be interested in what others have to say about this. Cheers. Mike Cherim http://green-beast.com

Re: [WSG] dl v table for form layout

2007-05-27 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Katrina wrote: I note that in Mike's example, he using a br / in order to achieve a block-level style visual. Surely that should be avoidable? http://green-beast.com/gbcf/gbcf_form.php Certainly it would be avoidable using label { display : block; } but I wanted the form to retain its

Re: [WSG] The use of asterisks in forms to indicate required fields

2007-05-27 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
address:br / input type=text id=url name=url value=http://; / /label /fieldset Cheers. Mike Cherim http://green-beast.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http

Re: [WSG] The use of asterisks in forms to indicate required fields

2007-05-27 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Paul Novitski wrote: What if it were simply the word required? pEnter your contact information:/p fieldset legendRequired:/legend label for=nameName:br / input type=text id=name name=name value= / /label

Re: [WSG] The use of asterisks in forms to indicate required fields

2007-05-27 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Mordechai Peller wrote: Interesting; but what if you need (as is commonly the case) non-required fields interspersed with required ones? Optional I suppose. Just group them accordingly using the technique. fieldset legendOptional:/legend labelPhone input [...] / /label

Re: [WSG] The use of asterisks in forms to indicate required fields

2007-05-27 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
: optional foo blue :-) Cheers. Mike Cherim http://green-beast.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***

Re: [WSG] The use of asterisks in forms to indicate required fields

2007-05-27 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Terrence Wood wrote: Mike at Green-Beast.com wrote: A likely candidate might be putting the word in the in the label. which will bring us back to doe. doe a deer, a female deer [from the sound of music]... I said: How about just including (required) on the end of each label

Re: [WSG] The use of asterisks in forms to indicate required fields

2007-05-28 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
confirm). If this is indeed a fact, some users would miss them which might confuse the form's use even more. Cheers. Mike Cherim http://green-beast.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm

Re: [WSG] Re: Use of Fieldsets other than in form?

2007-06-04 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
. As far as I know the only element that offers nothing but air is the lowly span. Respectfully, Mike Cherim http://green-beast.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http

Re: [WSG] Triggering POSTs with links?

2007-06-20 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Thierry Koblentz wrote: I came up with this: http://www.tjkdesign.com/lab/button.asp But it requires to move the text out of the button :( I'm sort of just catching the end of this, but are you guys talking about something like what I did on my daughter's blog [1]? [1]

Re: [WSG] Triggering POSTs with links?

2007-06-21 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Richard Ishida wrote: It's annoying that it doesn't work so well in Opera, but I'd rather give the problem to Opera users than IE users. This also seems a much more sensible approach. I guess I should contact Opera and see if we can't get this 'fixed'. I'm bummed it doesn't work as well in

Re: [WSG] Using target=_blank

2007-07-24 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Users can choose to open a new window or tab if they want to (though many will need to be taught this). If the choice is made for them by implementing the target attribute, the power of choice and preference is taken from them and it's irretrievable. Personally I prefer links to open in the

Re: [WSG] Looking for a Stylesheet Switcher Script

2007-08-02 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
to these is that they are both server-side scripts so they don't require that the user have JavaScript enabled in addition to cookies. Hope this is useful to you. Cheers. Mike Cherim http://green-beast.com/ *** List Guidelines: http

Re: [WSG] Popup 'box' on hover

2007-08-23 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
How about this: http://mikecherim.com/experiments/css_map_pop.php? This could be adapted easily I think. Cheers. Mike Cherim - Original Message - From: Nick Roper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 10:23 AM Subject: [WSG] Popup 'box' on

Re: [WSG] Simple, almost silly, question:

2007-09-18 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
or look like a heading you can change that in your style sheet while keeping the semantics intact. Cheers. Mike Cherim http://green-beast.com/ - Original Message - From: Micky Hulse [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 5:25 PM Subject: [WSG

Re: [WSG] Form styling

2007-09-26 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Hi John, With your labels set to display: block, you don't realy need the extra br at the end of each one. ;) You're right, of course, but I think it's a good idea to keep the breaks. Not everyone supports styles so the breaks keep the form neat without them. My 2 cents. Cheers. Mike Cherim

Re: [WSG] Title links in navigation elements

2007-10-02 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Hello Cole, I'm a little confused: are TITLE attributes required for a href navigation elements? Won't screen readers verbalize the contents of the wording between a href tags? They will read the linked text and a screen reader user will normally turn off title expansion (I think it's off

Re: A: [WSG] Target Lawsuit - Please Make Yourself Heard

2007-10-03 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Better yet, since not everyone can see, lets require all publications to include a braille copy Copyrighted publications in the US are copied to Braille for the most part (with copyright holder's permission) by the Library of Congress. I want to visit the summit of mount everest... I suppose

Re: [WSG] Story Boards

2007-10-10 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
doing a project for my website development course. now, part of the requirements says that i need to create a story board to represent what content is to be displayed on each page. Hello Marvin, Could something like this possibly work for you? http://green-beast.com/autorun/ There are some

Re: [WSG] Encoded mailto links

2007-10-17 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
(using server side tech or JS), though it is accessible. Cheers. Mike Cherim http://green-beast.com/ [1] Somewhat effective but not completely: http://mikecherim.com/experiments/php_hide_email.php [2] So far so good (knock-on-wood): http://mikecherim.com/experiments/php_email_protector.php

Re: [WSG] Encoded mailto links - and mail sender

2007-10-19 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [WSG] Encoded mailto links - and mail sender Hi! Mike at Green-Beast.com skrev: I offer that in my contact form. It's a config option. The contact form owner can enable/disable offering a get-a-copy option to his/her visitors

Re: [WSG] Encoded mailto links - and mail sender

2007-10-19 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Good point, Patrick. I'll certainly consider offering a checkbox as a UI option for 'send me a copy of the contents of this form'. I'd certainly be interested if this could be done in php by assigning the user's mail address as a string, then posting to it. Anyone done that? I offer that

Re: [WSG] Encoded mailto links

2007-10-18 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
, 2007 7:50 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Encoded mailto links Mike at Green-Beast.com wrote: My personal policy is to never put an email address on the web unless it's written out using plain text The problem there is that, quite often, you don't have much control over things like web-based email

Re: [WSG] Re: Alt text for purely aesthetic images

2007-10-26 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
If an image is purely for presentation then use CSS and apply it as a background image. I personally don't think of this as some hard-and-fast rule, or even a rule-of-thumb since it's often impractical. I will often apply a decorative or supporting image for visual purposes, but if I have to

Re: [WSG] How z-index works

2007-10-29 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
I'd appreciate any comments that would help me improve this tool: http://tjkdesign.com/articles/z-index/teach_yourself_how_elements_stack.asp That's really cool Thierry :-) Mike *** List Guidelines:

Re: [WSG] How z-index works

2007-10-29 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
BTW: congrats for your move with the Guild :) [1] Thank you. Cheers. Mike [1] http://accessites.org/site/2007/10/accessites-and-gawds-cooperate/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm

Re: [WSG] Rounded Courners .... Your Take

2007-10-31 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
the background than a full div. That's my take on it anyway. Cheers. Mike Cherim http://green-beast.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join

Re: [WSG] Rounded Courners .... Your Take

2007-10-31 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Jixor - Stephen I wrote: Mike check out the example I posted earlier and you can see how it can be done without all the extra markup. I need a link please. Mike *** List Guidelines:

Re: [WSG] Rounded Courners .... Your Take

2007-10-31 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Jixor - Stephen I wrote: http://jixor.com/Stuff/Web/Panes Thanks. That's clever and simple. Cheers. Mike *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe:

Re: [WSG] CSS help

2007-11-01 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Hello Rob, I don't have (or know how to have) a structured system of building my style sheets. Maybe this will help? A CSS Starter File http://green-beast.com/blog/?p=109 Cheers. Mike Cherim *** List Guidelines:

Re: [WSG] Less than and greater than in UTF-8 encoded HTML

2007-11-14 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Hello Simon, How should I code less than and greater than signs in UTF-8 encoded HTML? The quick brown fox said 3 is less than 4, then he wrote 3 4. The quick brown fox said 3 is less than 4, then he wrote 3 lt; 4. Greater than, , is written as gt; Cheers. Mike Cherim http://green

Re: [WSG] Web Form Best Practices

2007-11-14 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Hello Howard, some form templates Any help focusing my search? I can offer a demo form [1] and a post about some (hopefully) best practices [2]. There is also an accessible form builder [3] at Accessify.com. No templates per se, but maybe these will be helpful. [1]

Re: [WSG] Markup question

2007-11-28 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
within the paragraphs, perhaps adding a strong tag to the number to show importance (that is officially what strong is for). My secondary suggestion would be a DL as I wrote, but again with the numbers added in as content. Respectively, Mike Cherim http://green-beast.com - Original Message

Re: [WSG] Appropriate use of the ABBR tag and Roman Numerals

2007-11-29 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Hello Tate, I'm in the process of representing the date in Roman Numerals. I'm concerned this may confuse potential users, and would like to display an optional tooltip in the standard Gregorian format. Would it be considered semantically appropriate to make use of the abbr tag? Or

Re: [WSG] typepad css problem

2007-12-12 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
or ID [1], or assign it to a parent [2]. -- [1] a class=foo href=/Foo/a a.foo { your : styles; } -- [2] p class=fooa href=/Foo/a p.foo a { your : styles; } -- Make sense? Cheers. Mike Cherim http://green-beast.com

Re: [WSG] Preventing copying of text from web page.

2007-12-20 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Don't forget, with all the best barriers in place, one can always transcribe the content so the only real solution, as James wrote: If you don't want information copied from your web page then don't put in on the web. period. Holiday cheers. Mike Cherim - Original Message - From:

Re: [WSG] autostrech rounded css rectangle

2008-01-10 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Hello Naveen, help me to get an autostretch rounded css rectangle. Would this meet your needs? It can be a rectangle if you want. http://mikecherim.com/experiments/css_smart_corners.php Cheers. Mike Cherim http://green-beast.com

Re: [WSG] Definition List appropriate for FAQ?

2008-01-17 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Hello Christian, I've been trying to decide which is more semantically correct for an FAQ [...] definition list is probably the most appropriate My vote is in favor of a DL. I feel it is absolutely the most appropriate element to use in such a case. Cheers. Mike Cherim http://green

Re: [WSG] Styling forms

2008-02-07 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
fwiw, I think BRs are the perfect fit. I agree. :) Mike - Original Message - From: Thierry Koblentz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 1:55 PM Subject: RE: [WSG] Styling forms On Behalf Of Thomas Thomassen Sent: Thursday, February

Re: [WSG] Styling forms

2008-02-07 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
actually take away from the form. Just like a p doesn't need a td, a label + input combo doesn't need an li. Old conversation, I know, but I just had to chime in. Cheers. Mike Cherim http://green-beast.com/ - Original Message - From: Thomas Thomassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg

Re: [WSG] Styling forms

2008-02-07 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Hello Thomas, How does screenreaders treat using just labelinput//label? I'm writing an article on just that thing now. Jaws is okay with it, but Windows Eyes chokes on it. That in itself may not be too-too important due to the number of users, but I'm 99.99% sure that Safari on Mac users

Re: [WSG] Styling forms

2008-02-08 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Hi Rachel, I'd be very interested in reading your article when it's ready For better or worse, it's published: http://green-beast.com/blog/?p=254 Cheers. Mike *** List Guidelines:

Re: [WSG] Small element (was:Styling forms)

2008-02-08 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Hi Thomas, In HTML4 it's a font style element on the line with b and i etc I guess I've always considered it a font-sizing element more than a styling thing, though the final result is a visual style. I've always felt it has a meaning of being less important than the surrounding text. An

Re: [WSG] Styling forms

2008-02-08 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
at Green-Beast.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Styling forms Hi Rachel, I'd be very interested in reading your article when it's ready For better or worse, it's published: http://green-beast.com/blog/?p=254 Cheers

Re: [WSG] Small element (was:Styling forms)

2008-02-08 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Hello Thomas, One of your examples: p iWhy does this semantic markup stuff have to be so unclear at times/i, he thought. /p Wouldn't it be more appropriate to use: p qWhy does this semantic markup stuff have to be so unclear at times/q, he thought. /p ...since it's quoting a person's

Re: [WSG] Styling forms

2008-02-08 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 2:32 PM Subject: RE: [WSG] Styling forms On Behalf Of Mike at Green-Beast.com I don't think the break use has any bearing on the accessibility of the form's elements so that doesn't seem to have bearing on my decision. No negatives

Re: [WSG] Styling forms

2008-02-08 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
I don't use display:block, most of the time I float everything and use the label to clear. Depending on the width of the labels I may use text-align:right; to move the text in the label toward the text box. I also set the widths in EMs, to avoid the text to wrap if it grows. With the fieldset

Re: [WSG] an accessible question: server-side vs client-side validation

2008-02-11 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Hi Tee, I suppose I can turn off the server-side validation if client-side validation is used, but I am concerned with the accessibility issue You can have it both ways. The JavaScript can work before anything is even submitted to the server (very AJAXy) so the server-side validation isn't

Re: [WSG] Decorative bolding

2008-02-11 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Do I: a. Use the b tag, or... b. Use a span tag and bold it using CSS? I'd use span, b is deprecated Actually it's not deprecated, not in HTML 4, 5 or XHTML 1. If ever there was a case for the use the 'b' element, this might be a good one. --- Strong is important so, as Rachel stated,

Re: [WSG] strong element being more semantical and accessible for required field

2008-02-25 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Hi Matt, that the following legend is superflous and prevents logical grouping. fieldset legendRequired/legend label for=nameName (required) input name=name label for=emailEmail (required) input name=email /fieldset I agree, actually. With that example (and the image one I gave) using

Re: [WSG] strong element being more semantical and accessible for required field

2008-02-26 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Hi Matt, I guess I would prefer verbose and have them fill the form out once than have them have them misinterpret and have to fix errors, [...] I agree. [...] which I imagine can be tedious using a screen reader. Is this the case? Can be a horror show. My understanding is that client

[WSG] Special site check invitation (for one)

2008-02-26 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Hello all, I am looking for a volunteer to check out a web site for me. I need another set of eyes. This volunteer needs the following: 1) Access to an extra wide viewport (beyond 1024). 2) A solid knowledge of CSS so if a bug is found, together we might be able to find a fix (you will be

Re: [WSG] Special site check invitation (COMPLETE)

2008-02-26 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Hello all, Thank you to all who volunteered. I owe you one :) I did actually extend the invitation to three people -- more the merrier, right? Cheers. Mike *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm

Re: [WSG] Browser Text Resizing and the Ill Effects It May Cause

2008-03-03 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Hi Jason, yes I do.. You can do the same thing with pictures it's really a cool effect, and helps maintain the ratio of the entire page pretty well.. I have a demo up (Currently using php to process the size of the image) if anyone wants to look: HTTP://www.raoset.com/dev/global7/ I don't

Re: [WSG] IE8 news

2008-03-03 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2008/03/03/microsoft-s-interoperability-principles-and-ie8.aspx That's awesome. A unified industry can move forward. Those who want to embrace it will get with the program, and those who don't can stay in IE7-ville until... well, until they get with the

Re: [WSG] IE8 news

2008-03-05 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Hi Thomas, One thing I noticed was some oddness with :hover behaviour I remember when IE7 came out (RC1 I think) I had to add [1] a:hover {} to the head of my documents else it didn't work at all. I added it within my @import statement with empty braces, like this: style type=text/css

Re: [WSG] SEO, fact or fiction

2008-03-06 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
first) titles. 2) Make sure your site is accessible (*standards required here). 3) Interesting, well-written content. Offer something. 4) Concise meta descriptions. 5) Give it time and your steady effort. Price for that advice: Free. Cheers. Mike Cherim http://green-beast.com

Re: [WSG] SEO, fact or fiction and myths

2008-03-09 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
I didn't know robots text was important for accessibility, however I learned from the accessites team that it is. Tee, The reasons we (Accessites) look for a robots.txt file is because it keeps honest bots from wasting their time and your bandwidth indexing directories/files you don't want

Re: [WSG] SEO, fact or fiction and myths

2008-03-09 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
That seems incredibly arbitrary when a robots.txt is purely optional - especially as the default spider behavior is to index all unless told otherwise. So you're penalizing people by having your robot behave in the opposite manner? And regarding PICS labels, most people don't know how to set them

[WSG] WCAG 2 implementation site

2008-03-11 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
I don't recall who had asked for the link, but I have finally launched the WCAG 2 implementation site that was mentioned. Info about it as well as a link to the site can be found here: http://green-beast.com/blog/?p=221. Cheers. Mike Cherim

Re: [WSG] Hanging indents

2008-03-20 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
hope this helps. Cheers, Mike Cherim http://green-beast.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***

Re: [WSG] Hanging indents

2008-03-21 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Hello Rob, facing the great problem of trying to make the screen look like print. Good point. I had that issue with a site I recently made. The client wanted every entry to look like it did in print. For example, the print version used uppercase headings. The client was adding this content

Re: [WSG] Form best practice

2008-04-20 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
you've come across a good form design, functionality, semantics or interaction. I humbly submit my own. http://green-beast.com/gbcf-v3/ Cheers. Mike Cherim *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm

Re: [WSG] Image links

2008-05-01 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Hi Venkatesan, Is there any chance 'img' can be a parent of 'anchor' tag? How about this then: a img, img a { text-decoration : none; } This is a fuller version with some interaction as a usability enahancement. img, a img, img a { text-decoration : none; border : 2px solid #ccc; /* try

Re: [WSG] Image links

2008-05-01 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
it should be: a img { } Ah, yeah, duh, sorry can't do img a. Drop that from my previous example please. It's late, I'll Tweet my goof and go to bed :) Mike *** List Guidelines:

Re: [WSG] The Problem of adjacent links

2008-05-08 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Hi Bob, I have run into a problem with having two adjacent links at the top of a page. You can use a list as someone mentioned, you can also add a hidden character. Example: div id=sitelink p [a href=sitemap.htmlSite Map/a span | /span a

Re: [WSG] Images

2008-05-08 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
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Re: [WSG] Large Background Images

2008-05-13 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Hi Chris, bandwidth. However standards are still a concern, what perils of wisdom for using a full-page BG can the list cultivate? Hard on those with a slow connection, but I cannot foresee another issue unless the background is a big animated GIF ;-) You can offer a removal tool for

Re: [WSG] Should we design for 800x600 screens?

2008-06-09 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
By subject... Should we design for 800x600 screens Design for? Not necessarily. Accommodate? Yes. Cheers. Mike Cherim http://green-beast.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe

Re: [WSG] Appropriate postings

2008-08-05 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
On lists like these, newbies can become gurus. And the cycle unselfishly gets repeated. :) Respectfully, Mike Cherim http://green-beast.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe

Re: [WSG] Question about accessibility

2008-08-27 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Hi Jason, I have a client that wants me to write his navigation mostly as a picture and then use image maps to get to the actual links. That's not necessarily an inaccessible method, not completely anyway. Take my MapPop [1] for example. It's a list and CSS driven. works with keyboard.

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